Groundhog Day
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Sailbad the Sinner
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The movie was good but not as good as was with mushroom gravy. Pepper helped bit.
la mariposita
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I think I'm the only person who hasn't seen that movie.
catsr2wild
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I've seen a little here and there but not all the way thru
ksmybuttons
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There was an article in the paper about how religious organizations use it as a teaching tool...how we have to keep trying over and over again to get it right...it was interesting.
Okay, I searched it...
Your spiritual guide . . . Bill Murray?
02/02/04
NANCY HAUGHT
Before Bill Murray was "Lost in Translation," he was stuck in "Groundhog Day," doomed to relive Feb. 2 over and over in Punxsutawney, Pa., until enlightenment dawned on him as sure as 6 a.m., Sonny and Cher and a few lines of early morning DJ banter:
"OK, campers, rise and shine! And don't forget your booties 'cause it's cold out there."
"It's cold out there every day. What is this, Miami Beach?"
The 1993 movie, directed by Harold Ramis and co-starring Andie MacDowell, recently kicked off "The Hidden God: Film and Faith," the current exhibition at the Museum of Modern Art in New York City. It turns out, curators say, that religious scholars from many different traditions have used the movie for years to teach fundamental spiritual themes. Who knew?
Well, Ramis, who co-wrote the screenplay with Danny Rubin, knew.
"The first ones who went public were Hasidic Jews," Ramis says in a telephone interview. "They were walking back and forth in front of the theater with signs, not to protest, but asking, 'Are you living the same day over and over again?' "
In the next few weeks, he heard from Buddhists, other Jews, fundamentalist Christians and Jesuit priests and even from therapists, who used the film to illustrate different theories of human development.
"OK, campers, rise and shine! And don't forget your booties 'cause it's cold out there."
"It's cold out there every day. . . ."
Even as he worked on the picture, Ramis says, he knew the story wrestled with some of life's big questions. Since the movie's debut, he has read more about the major religions of the world and thinks "Groundhog Day" is no idle comedy, that it does pack a faith-filled punch.
"Almost all religions start with a metaphysical inquiry: Where do we come from and what is God?" he says. "And they all end in some notion of service to others." He runs through a partial list:
"The temple in Jerusalem was destroyed when (the Jews) stopped caring for widows and orphans.
"Jesus represents selflessness and service.
"Mohammed was in rebellion with the selfishness of his time and called for a life of service.
"Buddhism began with a spiritual inquiry about the nature of existence and found an answer in the bodhisattva of compassion."
"OK, campers, rise and shine! And don't forget your booties 'cause it's cold out there."
In Portland, Matt Becker, a theology professor at Concordia University, thinks "Groundhog Day" has a lot to say about the Christian idea of repentance, or change.
"Murray doesn't understand why this is happening to him, and he wonders if he isn't a god because he knows what's going to happen before it does." But the film itself criticizes that notion, Becker says.
"He comes to a recognition of his limits, precisely coming down to the reality of who he is and who other people are. It's then that he's freed from living this one day over and over again.
"(The movie) stresses this notion of dying to self every day, of being reborn to a new and better life, a new and better existence, an opportunity to die and be reborn. . . . He finally gets it. He finally understands about humility and real love and service."
"OK, campers, rise and shine! And don't forget your booties . . ."
Eric Marcoux, a Tibetan Buddhist lama who lives in Portland, says "Groundhog Day" is a good illustration of how human beings are sometimes caught up in never questioning their own behavior and beliefs.
"Unquestioned grasping, unquestioned aggression, unquestioned aversion, unquestioned indifference toward things, toward experience, lead inescapably to more of the same results," he says.
"The root cause is the -- again, unquestioned -- ignorant belief that things -- thoughts, feelings, people, phenomena in general -- are solid and unchanging, that they can be successfully held onto without their slipping way."
To accord things too much importance leads to suffering, he says.
"All experience is inescapably marked by suffering until we stop trying to hold on to our culturally and tribally conditioned beliefs, which keep us in the same unquestioning loop. Thursday (or Groundhog Day) keeps happening over and over."
"OK, campers, rise and shine . . ."
Catholics have used "Groundhog Day" to talk about purgatory, where souls that aren't ready for heaven may spend time. Some Falun Gong practitioners see the film as an illustration of how one must learn from past mistakes in order to move on. Wiccans equate it with Imbolc, their first spring celebration.
But first, according to Ramis, were the Jews, who linked the film to their concept of tikkun olam, "the repair of the world." It matters to him that spiritual people still find a healing truth in this film.
"I've always felt as a Jew that my mission is to do what I can to heal the world," he says. "And Buddhism says that the world is saved one person at a time."
"OK, campers . . ."
Okay, I searched it...
Your spiritual guide . . . Bill Murray?
02/02/04
NANCY HAUGHT
Before Bill Murray was "Lost in Translation," he was stuck in "Groundhog Day," doomed to relive Feb. 2 over and over in Punxsutawney, Pa., until enlightenment dawned on him as sure as 6 a.m., Sonny and Cher and a few lines of early morning DJ banter:
"OK, campers, rise and shine! And don't forget your booties 'cause it's cold out there."
"It's cold out there every day. What is this, Miami Beach?"
The 1993 movie, directed by Harold Ramis and co-starring Andie MacDowell, recently kicked off "The Hidden God: Film and Faith," the current exhibition at the Museum of Modern Art in New York City. It turns out, curators say, that religious scholars from many different traditions have used the movie for years to teach fundamental spiritual themes. Who knew?
Well, Ramis, who co-wrote the screenplay with Danny Rubin, knew.
"The first ones who went public were Hasidic Jews," Ramis says in a telephone interview. "They were walking back and forth in front of the theater with signs, not to protest, but asking, 'Are you living the same day over and over again?' "
In the next few weeks, he heard from Buddhists, other Jews, fundamentalist Christians and Jesuit priests and even from therapists, who used the film to illustrate different theories of human development.
"OK, campers, rise and shine! And don't forget your booties 'cause it's cold out there."
"It's cold out there every day. . . ."
Even as he worked on the picture, Ramis says, he knew the story wrestled with some of life's big questions. Since the movie's debut, he has read more about the major religions of the world and thinks "Groundhog Day" is no idle comedy, that it does pack a faith-filled punch.
"Almost all religions start with a metaphysical inquiry: Where do we come from and what is God?" he says. "And they all end in some notion of service to others." He runs through a partial list:
"The temple in Jerusalem was destroyed when (the Jews) stopped caring for widows and orphans.
"Jesus represents selflessness and service.
"Mohammed was in rebellion with the selfishness of his time and called for a life of service.
"Buddhism began with a spiritual inquiry about the nature of existence and found an answer in the bodhisattva of compassion."
"OK, campers, rise and shine! And don't forget your booties 'cause it's cold out there."
In Portland, Matt Becker, a theology professor at Concordia University, thinks "Groundhog Day" has a lot to say about the Christian idea of repentance, or change.
"Murray doesn't understand why this is happening to him, and he wonders if he isn't a god because he knows what's going to happen before it does." But the film itself criticizes that notion, Becker says.
"He comes to a recognition of his limits, precisely coming down to the reality of who he is and who other people are. It's then that he's freed from living this one day over and over again.
"(The movie) stresses this notion of dying to self every day, of being reborn to a new and better life, a new and better existence, an opportunity to die and be reborn. . . . He finally gets it. He finally understands about humility and real love and service."
"OK, campers, rise and shine! And don't forget your booties . . ."
Eric Marcoux, a Tibetan Buddhist lama who lives in Portland, says "Groundhog Day" is a good illustration of how human beings are sometimes caught up in never questioning their own behavior and beliefs.
"Unquestioned grasping, unquestioned aggression, unquestioned aversion, unquestioned indifference toward things, toward experience, lead inescapably to more of the same results," he says.
"The root cause is the -- again, unquestioned -- ignorant belief that things -- thoughts, feelings, people, phenomena in general -- are solid and unchanging, that they can be successfully held onto without their slipping way."
To accord things too much importance leads to suffering, he says.
"All experience is inescapably marked by suffering until we stop trying to hold on to our culturally and tribally conditioned beliefs, which keep us in the same unquestioning loop. Thursday (or Groundhog Day) keeps happening over and over."
"OK, campers, rise and shine . . ."
Catholics have used "Groundhog Day" to talk about purgatory, where souls that aren't ready for heaven may spend time. Some Falun Gong practitioners see the film as an illustration of how one must learn from past mistakes in order to move on. Wiccans equate it with Imbolc, their first spring celebration.
But first, according to Ramis, were the Jews, who linked the film to their concept of tikkun olam, "the repair of the world." It matters to him that spiritual people still find a healing truth in this film.
"I've always felt as a Jew that my mission is to do what I can to heal the world," he says. "And Buddhism says that the world is saved one person at a time."
"OK, campers . . ."
Queersetti
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Kalypso said:
I guess we know who you will be rooting for on Oscar night.
