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Grade Obama's first 100 days

Grade Obama's first 100 days

  • A

    Votes: 3 12.0%

  • B

    Votes: 12 48.0%

  • C

    Votes: 2 8.0%

  • D

    Votes: 5 20.0%

  • F

    Votes: 3 12.0%
  • Total voters
    25
Country hasn't blown up yet.

He'll be about as mediocre as most American presidents have been, historically.

Ah fuck I'm in a politics thread oh shit bailing out now.
 
I'm pleased so far particularly in the social and diplomatic areas.

:rose:
 
I'd have given him a B+ if the option were there. I settled for B, though, since I don't think he's had time to earn an A. I think he's learning, though, that some of his proposed policies may run into both serious opposition from the other side of the aisle, and practical difficulties in implementation. Changes always seem easier from the outside looking in. A large part of the reason for the positive grade is the boost in international perception of the U.S. since his inauguration. The Shrub did more to drag down our rep than any two previous presidents, and Obama has drastically improved it. Not as much as it could be, but then, he's only had 100 days. :rolleyes:
 
I'll give him credit for having the balls to send more troops to Afghanistan. Too bad Europe shot him the bird when he asked them to step up. At the same time, I don't see a victory coming there EVER. It's like holding a wolf by the ears. You don't like it but you don't want to leg go either
 
B-

Above average, make a move, everybodys watching and waiting.

I like to think the economy bogged him down a bit, once he gets that pointing in the right direction I'll be waiting to see how much pomentum he has left.
 
B+ or A- on a few high points, if I'm gonna get specific. B overall. I'm impressed with the speed of the economic progress, and the selection of cabinet, I am hopeful that the statements made about torture are made because a better case is being pursued, not because we're really going to plow forward blithely with no consequence. I'm nervous on that front.



I expected mediocrity and OK ness from this guy, and have always voted in a "harm least" strategy, and I've been pleasantly surprised. I think he's the right person in the right time.
 
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I gave him a "B", though I guess I wouldn't know. I'm not good with politics.
 
F

For turning the auto industry into welfare. In a democratic free market economy a business either thrives or fails and the auto industry bailout shouldn't have happened. It just shoves the problem into the future and wastes money.

For sending more troops overseas, didn't he say that troop pullouts would begin immediately?

For Acorn in the past forcing the mortgage lending industry to give loans to people who would never have qualified, creating a big part of the housing market collapse.

For sucking up to Venezuelas Hugo Chavez, he's not exactly someone you want to do business with.

For attempting to spend our way out of a recession and borrow our way out of debt.

Even Fidel Castro has come out and said that Obama is a liar.
 
Betticus said:
F

For turning the auto industry into welfare. In a democratic free market economy a business either thrives or fails and the auto industry bailout shouldn't have happened. It just shoves the problem into the future and wastes money.

For sending more troops overseas, didn't he say that troop pullouts would begin immediately?

For Acorn in the past forcing the mortgage lending industry to give loans to people who would never have qualified, creating a big part of the housing market collapse.

For sucking up to Venezuelas Hugo Chavez, he's not exactly someone you want to do business with.

For attempting to spend our way out of a recession and borrow our way out of debt.

Even Fidel Castro has come out and said that Obama is a liar.
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Damn, now someone will claim Bett is an alt of me.
 
Betticus said:
For turning the auto industry into welfare. In a democratic free market economy a business either thrives or fails and the auto industry bailout shouldn't have happened. It just shoves the problem into the future and wastes money
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No one had a peep about this with the airlines. Or the farms. Or the myriad other instances of corporate welfare, and I say a shit minimum wage where social services have to pick up the slack when people can't make it at the taxpayer expense is a form of subsidy for big box and industry - no one had a squeak. The banks got theirs and went on as usual with bonuses and parties.

But holy shit, Union Ed makes seventy bucks an hour and whoaaaaa!
 
*settles in for another healthy political discussion*

*makes hot coco*

*raises hand for diplomacy*
 
JMohegan said:
You don't seem the type to be afraid of a smile and a handshake.

What would you have had Obama do?
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My comment wasn't directed towards Obama's actions. Just engaging in a little hyperbole as well. In the realm of smiles and handshakes, i tend toward Abe's belief.

As for a grade, it's still too early to say much. If forced, i'd give him an interim floating between a B plus and minus. i consider how well he puts Pelosi on a leash his midterm and his chess skills in the Iraqi theater redeployment his freshman final. How well he handles a Castro mini-me is a momentary blip on the rabid's radar. Rather than blue-jay, Hugo would do well to consult with Leopoldo on what happens to a gnat when an elephant or donkey gets pissed.
 
AngelicAssassin said:
My comment wasn't directed towards Obama's actions. Just engaging in a little hyperbole as well. In the realm of smiles and handshakes, i tend toward Abe's belief.

As for a grade, it's still too early to say much. If forced, i'd give him an interim floating between a B plus and minus. i consider how well he puts Pelosi on a leash his midterm and his chess skills in the Iraqi theater redeployment his freshman final. How well he handles a Castro mini-me is a momentary blip on the rabid's radar. Rather than blue-jay, Hugo would do well to consult with Leopoldo on what happens to a gnat when an elephant or donkey gets pissed.
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In that case, we're mostly in agreement here.

The bar set by his predecessor isn't exactly high, and it's tempting to give the President superlative marks just for sounding intelligent, articulate, honest, principled, and confident sans arrogance, every time he opens his mouth.

It's also tempting to cut him a great deal of slack, for inheriting the bulk of his problems - and in some measure, I do.

But it remains to be seen whether he makes material improvements in what I perceive to be our key crisis areas: the financial industry, Afghanistan/Pakistan, health care, and energy dependence.

Michelle, on the other hand, had a very hard act to follow. Even so, in terms of grace, class, warmth, and dignity, so far I give her very high marks. Can't think of a First Lady whom I've liked as well.
 
AngelicAssassin said:
As for a grade, it's still too early to say much. If forced, i'd give him an interim floating between a B plus and minus. i consider how well he puts Pelosi on a leash
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Me too. I give him a higher grade than you simply because I think the deployment of Rahm Emmanuel is something that isn't going to be completely transparent in its workings and I have a lot of faith in scary Jewish men. I have a feeling that Pelosi Reed and Frank (and Waxman) are going to be fighting for relevancy with the teabaggers.
 
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JMohegan said:
In that case, we're mostly in agreement here.

The bar set by his predecessor isn't exactly high, and it's tempting to give the President superlative marks just for sounding intelligent, articulate, honest, principled, and confident sans arrogance, every time he opens his mouth.

It's also tempting to cut him a great deal of slack, for inheriting the bulk of his problems - and in some measure, I do.

But it remains to be seen whether he makes material improvements in what I perceive to be our key crisis areas: the financial industry, Afghanistan/Pakistan, health care, and energy dependence.

Michelle, on the other hand, had a very hard act to follow. Even so, in terms of grace, class, warmth, and dignity, so far I give her very high marks. Can't think of a First Lady whom I've liked as well.
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Laura Bush gets a heaping dose of fail for even considering let alone accepting a position as "gang czar" I am not shitting you, based on her prodigious qualification as a kindergarten teacher. Asshole.

And we had issues with Caroline Kennedy.

I think the first hundred are about as well exectuted as can be. It's the rest I'm worried about and it's time to get cracking on things like - unfucking the utter fucking to personal privacy and extension of executive power of the last 4. There had better be some kind of reconciliation with the idea that we're not a country that rapes kills and maims its detainees, or spies on its populace, and furthermore that doing these things from a position of power in this country, elected or unelected, has some fucking consequence.

Does anyone think East Germany took a day to get like that? Or that the things that led there sounded insane and stupid rather than seductive and appealing to the average person?

We'll just have to exist with some consciousness of our risk like other countries, on the high ground and not in the sewer we're in. Or we might as well give up the whole project.
 
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Netzach said:
Laura Bush gets a heaping dose of fail for even considering let alone accepting a position as "gang czar" I am not shitting you, based on her prodigious qualification as a kindergarten teacher. Asshole.

And we had issues with Caroline Kennedy.
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Gang czar? My memory must be going, or maybe I wasn't paying attention at the time, but I've got no idea what you're talking about.

Every time I paid attention to Laura as First Lady, she just seemed warm and gracious. Reading to children or talking about women's health or something.

And I'll not soon forget how she stood up for Michelle more than a year ago, when every other Republican seemed desperate to stir up shit over that "proud of my country" nonsense.
 
JMohegan said:
Gang czar? My memory must be going, or maybe I wasn't paying attention at the time, but I've got no idea what you're talking about.

Every time I paid attention to Laura as First Lady, she just seemed warm and gracious. Reading to children or talking about women's health or something.

And I'll not soon forget how she stood up for Michelle more than a year ago, when every other Republican seemed desperate to stir up shit over that "proud of my country" nonsense.
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I could not have made this up, though it's the kind of thing I thought I was dreaming maybe one morning till I googled it to make sure I hadn't been. I saw this interview on TV and couldn't stop WTF'ing.

She was doing the talk show circuit heavily, and Bush basically made her the head of a whole gang-violence initiative. She kept up with "gosh golly, I wouldn't call it a czar" and all that but it's true. The message these people sent was clear:

Laura Bush is what we're going to deploy on the issue of thousands of young men of color (mostly) dying and killing one another. That's how important it is to us.

Now I understand the value of the First Lady as an attention-getting figure, but gang violence? Insane much?
 
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Netzach said:
I think the first hundred are about as well exectuted as can be. It's the rest I'm worried about and it's time to get cracking on things like - unfucking the utter fucking to personal privacy and extension of executive power of the last 4. There had better be some kind of reconciliation with the idea that we're not a country that rapes kills and maims its detainees, or spies on its populace, and furthermore that doing these things from a position of power in this country, elected or unelected, has some fucking consequence.
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I see this (the reconciliation, and the consequences) as inevitable.

Even if he wanted to, I don't think Obama could reverse the process now.


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