Goodbye Pelosi; Hello Tea Party & Gridlock!

[amicus]

12:40 a.m. Eastern time, Republicans gained control of the House of Representatives.

You missed great theatre by not watching the CNN crybabies as the results began to indicate a Republican Landslide.

Take my word: that is the end of Cap & Tax, that is the end of Obamacare, the Liberal Progressive dream is shattered and lies in shards.

Anyone think Obama will pull a Clinton and become Pragmatic and not ideological?

Heh...



Amicus

 

[JackLuis]

12:40 a.m. Eastern time, Republicans gained control of the House of Representatives.

Anyone think Obama will pull a Clinton and become Pragmatic and not ideological?

Heh...



Amicus

Fucking Wonderful. Now Obama is going go all LBJ on the Repub's.

 

[Pure]

Anyone think Obama will pull a Clinton and become Pragmatic and not ideological?

of course he will. Bill is his buddy and mentor and has been campaigning like hell for the Dems.

and, wake up, Obama did this a while back; he seems to have become pragmatic almost from day 1, hence for example, there is no public insurance component of the Democrats' Health Plan. he has preserved the large banks as private entities, and helped them turn the corner to substantial profits.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Ami is all set to take over the world now.

 

[amicus]

Anyone think Obama will pull a Clinton and become Pragmatic and not ideological?

of course he will. Bill is his buddy and mentor and has been campaigning like hell for the Dems.

and, wake up, Obama did this a while back; he seems to have become pragmatic almost from day 1, hence for example, there is no public insurance component of the Democrats' Health Plan. he has preserved the large banks as private entities, and helped them turn the corner to substantial profits.[/QUOTE]

~~~

Nice try, Pure, nice try.

He couldn't get the 'public option' pure socialized medicine, even among the Democrats so they passed it at, what, midnight, Christmas Eve, with few if any partisan support?

Replace your 'preserved' with 'Nationalized' banks and auto companies and no Democrat ever turned down the chance to get big bucks from Wall Street...do your own research, big money has been co-opted to the Left as they know where the money is.....DC.

Obama will speak this afternoon...we may, repeat may...be able to discern his direction....I predict...left wing ideology, building on the framework already in place for nationalized health care, cap & trade, the global warming hoax, and disavowing Fannie and Freddie as instrumental in the current recession.

wanna bet?



ami

 

[Miss_Pixie]

Well we may not be quite as fucked now...

 

[Stella_Omega]

Well we may not be quite as fucked now...

Time will tell.

On the one hand, if the repubs actually do roll back minimum wage, I can imagine a lot of jobs opening up--dog-poop-picker-uppers and suchlike. But those same tea party folk who make such a fuss about how evil minimum wage is? They are relying on minimum wage jobs. What so they think is going to happen to their own wages? They won't be looking at raises, that's for sure.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

12:40 a.m. Eastern time, Republicans gained control of the House of Representatives.

You missed great theatre by not watching the CNN crybabies as the results began to indicate a Republican Landslide.

Take my word: that is the end of Cap & Tax, that is the end of Obamacare, the Liberal Progressive dream is shattered and lies in shards.

At least until the white majority population finishes its long and rapid birthrate decline.

After that, Liberals take America... forever.

 

[Stella_Omega]

At least until the white majority population finishes its long and rapid birthrate decline.

After that, Liberals take America... forever.

Wait-- it can be long, or it can be rapid.

Which is it?

 

[Pure]

pure: he has preserved the large banks as private entities, and helped them turn the corner to substantial profits.[/QUOTE]

~~~

ami Nice try, Pure, nice try.


Replace your 'preserved' with 'Nationalized' banks [...]
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pure: there's not a shred of evidence for this, as a visit to any major bank's website will attest,

https://www.bankofamerica.com/


Perhaps you are trying to say that when the Bank had billions of gov't loans, the gov't, the loan-giver (bailer-out), had a good deal of leverage, and there is some truth to that. But note wiki's report below, which quite clearly states that the loans are repaid and the bank remains in private hands'; the clear implication is that any 'leverage' it was subjected to [above normal regulations], is largely over.



On December 2, 2009, Bank of America announced it would repay the entire US $45 billion they received in TARP and exit the program, using $26.2 billion of excess liquidity along with $18.6 billion to be gained in "common equivalent securities" (Tier 1 capital). The bank announced it had completed the repayment on December 9. Bank of America Ken Lewis said during the announcement, "We appreciate the critical role that the U.S. government played last fall in helping to stabilize financial markets, and we are pleased to be able to fully repay the investment, with interest... As America's largest bank, we have a responsibility to make good on the taxpayers' investment, and our record shows that we have been able to fulfill that commitment while continuing to lend." [78][79]

 

[amicus]

At least until the white majority population finishes its long and rapid birthrate decline.

After that, Liberals take America... forever.[/QUOTE]

~~~

I suggest you fail to comprehend the natural assimilation of immigrants into the American Dream.

It takes a generation or two or three perhaps, but the Irish, the Germans, the Dutch, maybe not the French, but the Vietnamese and even the Muslims, begin to understand the exceptionalism that is the American Dream.

'Liberals', will never take anything, they are carnivorus and either eat their young or never reproduce as it is way too primal for the elite to participate in.

Freedom is a powerful euphoric; the children of oppression rebel against their homeland and embrace the concepts of individual freedom and responsibilities for their own lives and futures.

The decline in birthrates across western industrial societies is a phenonema in evolution that I do not fully comprehend on the widest view of human future social eventualities.

I fail to comprehend your 'sense of life' world view; I have no idea what you predict or presume about the future of the species.

Amicus

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

pure: he has preserved the large banks as private entities, and helped them turn the corner to substantial profits.

~~~

ami Nice try, Pure, nice try.


Replace your 'preserved' with 'Nationalized' banks [...]
====

pure: there's not a shred of evidence for this, as a visit to any major bank's website will attest,

https://www.bankofamerica.com/


Perhaps you are trying to say that when the Bank had billions of gov't loans, the gov't, the loan-giver (bailer-out), had a good deal of leverage, and there is some truth to that. But note wiki's report below, which quite clearly states that the loans are repaid and the bank remains in private hands'; the clear implication is that any 'leverage' it was subjected to [above normal regulations], is largely over.



On December 2, 2009, Bank of America announced it would repay the entire US $45 billion they received in TARP and exit the program, using $26.2 billion of excess liquidity along with $18.6 billion to be gained in "common equivalent securities" (Tier 1 capital). The bank announced it had completed the repayment on December 9. Bank of America Ken Lewis said during the announcement, "We appreciate the critical role that the U.S. government played last fall in helping to stabilize financial markets, and we are pleased to be able to fully repay the investment, with interest... As America's largest bank, we have a responsibility to make good on the taxpayers' investment, and our record shows that we have been able to fulfill that commitment while continuing to lend." [78][79][/QUOTE]

If so our national debt woulda decreased, and it hasnt. On the otherhand Obama may be using the payback money to operate the government.

 

[TE999]

IMO Obama will founder on the rocks of a divided government. He has never functioned in such an environment and his ego will not allow him to; he's used to being unopposed to any great extent and is used to being praised, spoon fed and mollycoddled. Expect his frustration level to increase sharply.

 

[cliffhuckstable]

Jim Bunning and now Rand Paul. And Kentuckians complain when people stereotype our state.

 

[Liar]

He couldn't get the 'public option' pure socialized medicine

The what now?

 

[Carnevil9]

Personally, I can't see Obama "pulling a Clinton." Clinton was always a pragmatist (i.e., a whore) whereas Obama has always been an ideologue. I see lots and lots of gridlock, and Hillary sharpening her knives for 2012.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

At least until the white majority population finishes its long and rapid birthrate decline.

After that, Liberals take America... forever.[/QUOTE]

~~~

I suggest you fail to comprehend the natural assimilation of immigrants into the American Dream.

And what you fail to understand is that the non-white vote has shifted AWAY from supporting your cause.

The black vote is lost to you... forever. The Hispanic vote is going by the boards because of the immigrant mess; but you've never gotten a majority of them to support laissez-faire economics.

The decline in birthrates across western industrial societies is a phenonema in evolution that I do not fully comprehend on the widest view of human future social eventualities.

It's not there for you to comprehend; it just is.

All we gotta do is wait the white voters out.

This year white baby births were outnumbered by non-white births for the first time. It has begun...

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Wait-- it can be long, or it can be rapid.

Which is it?

Long, as in the decline will result in a racial multi-lateral and extremely Tea Party-hostile society in 40 years. That's a long time for you and me.

Rapid, in that 40 years is a drop in the bucket compared to the over 200 year history of white dominance of America.

As in: you've got to get to Maine from Los Angeles, but you're doing it in a Lamborghini.

 

[Huckleman2000]

Jim Bunning and now Rand Paul. And Kentuckians complain when people stereotype our state.

Yeah. Thanks for screwing the country, KY - you run out of pigs and goats?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Yeah. Thanks for screwing the country, KY - you run out of pigs and goats?

The Democrats couldn't ask for better help.

The best bet for the Dems is to listen to Napoleon and not interrupt the Republicans while they fail.

Go back home, talk to the liberal base that largely avoided voting this time around, and say "see what these guys are doing?"

Democrats don't need to cry about this...

 

[CharleyH]

12:40 a.m. Eastern time, Republicans gained control of the House of Representatives.

You missed great theatre by not watching the CNN crybabies as the results began to indicate a Republican Landslide.

Take my word: that is the end of Cap & Tax, that is the end of Obamacare, the Liberal Progressive dream is shattered and lies in shards.

Anyone think Obama will pull a Clinton and become Pragmatic and not ideological?

Heh...



Amicus

My theory? Simply put ... the Decline of the American Empire.

 

[cliffhuckstable]

Yeah. Thanks for screwing the country, KY - you run out of pigs and goats?

Still got plenty of pigs, goats, and 1st generation relatives.

 

[WRJames]

I think the country is just making wild swings -- far left two years ago, far right this time around. Each side is thinking they have a mandate when really all they are getting is their turn at bat.

The Dems made a lot of promises and didn't deliver so you would notice.

Now the Tea Party has made a lot of noise and gained some power.

Of course the Dems blamed those pesky Republicans for getting in their way. I'm sure we will see the same thing in reverse.

What we haven't seen for a while is a willingness to listen to each other and work together. Until that happens its probably going to be more of the same -- turn left, turn right, and never move forward.

 

[Stella_Omega]

The Democrats couldn't ask for better help.

The best bet for the Dems is to listen to Napoleon and not interrupt the Republicans while they fail.

Go back home, talk to the liberal base that largely avoided voting this time around, and say "see what these guys are doing?"

Democrats don't need to cry about this...

I agree. the repubs spent many millions of dollars, huge corporate infuxes.

I personally spent my political money in ten and twenty dollar increments, pointed to very specific targets.

Republicans were successful in ther purchases, but tens of millions of dollars managed to get those victories with tiny point spreads-- Anyone win by over ten percent?

The democrat wins were similarly narrow, but with less monetary outlay, more direct campaigning.

I think the country is just making wild swings -- far left two years ago, far right this time around. Each side is thinking they have a mandate when really all they are getting is their turn at bat.

The Dems made a lot of promises and didn't deliver so you would notice.

Now the Tea Party has made a lot of noise and gained some power.

Of course the Dems blamed those pesky Republicans for getting in their way. I'm sure we will see the same thing in reverse.

What we haven't seen for a while is a willingness to listen to each other and work together. Until that happens its probably going to be more of the same -- turn left, turn right, and never move forward.

yes, and by narrow margins each time.

 

[wet_special]

It's nice to see that people are spending so much time arguing about this here. You guys must really get along and like eachother. But talk about a niche audience.