Goodbye Necrophiles

[Angelique]

Kerrie, I have to agree with you on this one. Each day I found myself drawn to the new stories section, anxiously awaiting the next installment of Necrophiles.

After reading Part 9, I wondered where the story would go from there. Today, I jumped online and was glad to see the next installment on the board. By the time I got done reading it, I thought "WTF was THAT?"

My opinion...the story ended too soon. Part 10 was a bit rushed and was difficult to follow.

So, basically, in a nutshell, I was disappointed with the ending.

[This message has been edited by Angelique (edited 04-21-2000).]

 

[Laurel]

Are we supposed to keep our mouths shut if we (a) can't say something nice or (b) don't feel constructive criticism would be worthwhile? I know we have to keep in mind that much of the writing here is not of professional quality, but damn!

No, you're not supposed to keep your mouth shut - you should express your opinion on specific stories, giving specific critisms, as you have here.

 

[CreamyLady]

I, too, was looking forward to each part, until Part IX. The writing was awkward, but the story was moving right along.

I had to quit reading, though, because I was pretty sure I was going to throw up. I'm not at all interested in Part X.

This is not erotica; it isn't even horror. It is the honest-to-goodness gross-out. Some people have to deal with this on a daily basis, Goddess help them. The rest of us usually only find out about it on the evening news, and only see the full extent of it if we are unlucky enough to be on jury duty.

Really, it was awful. I wish there really was a way to wash the images out of my brain.

 

[Angelique]

Well said Kerrie! I'm a big thriller/horror fan, and nearly forgot that I was reading this story on Literotica. I don't think of this yarn as erotic at all, but could be a very good draft for a horror story if properly developed.

I'm surprised that there is no way to contact the author, tho'. Oh well, I guess we'll just have to hope that he/she reads the board.

 

[Ravenloft]

So... Should I read it?

 

[Angelique]

Go ahead Ravenloft...read it...but you'll probably only enjoy it up 'til Part 9. After that, it kinda goes downhill.

 

[Laurel]

Well said Kerrie! I'm a big thriller/horror fan, and nearly forgot that I was reading this
story on Literotica. I don't think of this yarn as erotic at all, but could be a very good
draft for a horror story if properly developed.

I pondered whether I should post this story, as it isn't exactly the sort of fare that gets you wet/hard (at least, I should hope not). However, there are a few other stories on the site that are more adult than sexy. I saw this as an adult thriller, and I think with some reworking it could be a very good one.

I try not to comment too much on stories (that's you people's job - I post, you comment, lol), but since I'm here... The story has definite potential, and it was compelling enough to get me all caught up in it. I too thought the ending was a bit of a letdown. I agree with many of Kerrie's comments. The idea is awesome, but it needs to be honed and focused a little more. It brushed by interesting subplots without developing them or working them into the main plot. That's my rather broad assessment...

 

[Whispersecret]

It's so exciting to see other people giving constructive criticism on stories. I think that it can only help writers improve their skills, which will benefit all of us readers!

Just remember, if someone criticizes your story, try to look at it objectively. They are only pointing out areas that, to them, could have been handled differently.

 

[Laurel]

This is not a new story. I have seen it before. It is either a resubmission of very old
material or plagerism. At any rate, i do not think it will be improved and any constructive
whatever is going nowhere quickly.

Hi andra_jenny... I have emailed you and asked you to supply a link to the original stories, but I have not received a response yet. Furthermore, I have contacted the author and he assured me that these are in fact his original stories. We certainly don't support plagiarism, but on the other hand we believe that the person who submitted these stories is innocent until someone can show us otherwise. We absolutely appreciate your concern, but specific information would be more helpful than general accusations. Thanks, take care, and Happy Easter!

 

[Guest]

This is not a new story. I have seen it before. It is either a resubmission of very old material or plagerism. At any rate, i do not think it will be improved and any constructive whatever is going nowhere quickly.

 

[Angelique]

Interesting info andra. Any chance you can recall where you may have seen the story before?

Personally, I believe that the comments in this post are beneficial. I'm sure that there are other writers who may be thinking of putting together an erotic thriller of some sort. Perhaps they, too, have read Necrophiles.

The comments found on this board may not do anything to help the person who submitted Necrophiles, but it may help another author see where potential problems are so that he/she can avoid them.

Just my humble opinion, and no, my intentions were not to belittle anyone else's comments on the board.

 

[Laurel]

I did find a story
"bar none" on a 10 year old CD that was submitted in the last few months. The old work had
no author listed.

Again, it's probably best to email me some sort of proof before making public accusations about plagiarism. That's a very serius charge, not one to be bandied about in a public forum.

You must also keep in mind that many of our writers have been writing erotica on the web for many years - on the usenet, etc. - and under other names. I had an issue recently where it was brought to my attention that a story on this site and another site was identical, but the name was different. I emailed the author of the story on the other site, and it turned out it was the same author - writing under two different names. His response was something along the lines of "Hey, dope, I'm the one who submitted it to YOU!"

Again, I do not want to cause trouble, or hurt feelings, or store up trouble. I could be wrong.
It could merely be deja vu. my sincere apologies if I am wrong.

My feelings aren't hurt at all.

However, I do think you need to imagine how you would feel if you were publicly accused of plagiarism. Even if you could disprove it, there would still be people who read the accusation but not your response and thus would always think of you as a thief and a liar.

I encourage anyone who thinks a story on this site might be plagiarized to email me. I have always researched the accusation and made a decision based on my findings. In the case of the Necrophiles story, some of you may have noticed that for a time I wasn't posting new chapters - that's because I was emailing the author, checking facts, etc. And he has in fact submitted several other pieces that do coincide in style with this one. So rest assured, he is the author of the piece.

Again, I totally appreciate your concern. We detest plagiarism and thievery as much as anyone, if not more, and have always acted promptly when we discover stolen work. However, we must be careful not to point the finger at a legitimate author without cause.

 

[Guest]

I did take to time to look for the material, I think it is on some old BB stuff. I did find a story "bar none" on a 10 year old CD that was submitted in the last few months. The old work had no author listed.

I have one of those memories and was raised not on television, but on the written word, which I have a deep love of in all its genres. If I have read something before, I know it as fact. I will be the first person to apologize humbly and profusely if I am wrong, because it is a serious charge.

My challange would be to have the author write about an agreed twist or turn to the tale to see if there is a change in style. Even when good writers change the vehicle, Hemmingway is still not Hesse, who is different from Grasse.

This is my busy season and I have volumes of old BBS stuff on 3.5 diskettes. When I have a little more time, I will see if that drive still works.

Again, I do not want to cause trouble, or hurt feelings, or store up trouble. I could be wrong. It could merely be deja vu. my sincere apologies if I am wrong.

What else has our fine author of the necrophiles written? Another story in the same style or voice would go a long way towards proving me wrong. Writers establish patterns of thought and word.

andra

PS

Angelique, the point made before about the story being instructive was good. I appreciate that sentiment.

AJ

PPS

I think a less talented person would put something of someone elses out as bait to attract persons with similar tastes for their own purposes other than the love of writing. WHat better way to contact someone stimulated by this sort of thing.

Again, this is not accusatory. Just an observation. I would love to be wrong. Harboring bad thought about others is not good on the kharmic plain.

aj