Good Manners

BlackShanglan said:
I regret the continual erosion of the idea that there is anything on the face of the earth worth dressing for. I'm far from finicky in my own daily dress, but it's depressing to think that people really want to live in a world where nothing has a sense of occasion, ceremony, or specialness to it. I don't really want my own convenience to be the centerpiece of every activity and location.

I agree. Working construction I never have a chance to dress up for anything, mainly because I have no time for any kind of social life. In my last year at college before I left school I was running for the President of the student government. My good friend and comrade-in-arms was my running mate as VP. We dressed as you would expect real politicans to dress with suits, ties, and nice shoes (not tennis shoes or sneakers). Everyone else there was wearing shorts, jeans, t-shirts, including our opponents. One girl even made fun of us, saying that we looked like we were in the mafia.

BlackShanglan said:
I also bitterly mourn the loss of the idea of civilized debate from most public spheres. Vitriol has been elevated to the status of virtue; the nastier one is to those who disagree with one's ideas, evidently the more proud one can then be of one's uncompromising principles. That any decent set of principles would suggest being kind and generous to others and attempting to promote one's ideals rather than offend people with them seems a lost concept. I miss it.

Shanglan

That's becuase we've reached the age where compromise of any sort is seen as a weakness or at least that's how those who never compromise promote it. You can't sit and have a decent discussion about ideas because that would make too much God damned sense. Instead you have to have screaming matches and tv show hosts who interrupt people while they're talking in order to appeal to their hardline viewers and keep the ratings up.
 
rgraham666 said:
Only if you don't factor Charley into the equation. ;)
Hey, I've read "How To Be a Canadian," ... and the Québécois have the best parties ... if not the biggest. The biggest-baddest-meanest-largest mall-ish-parking-lot-deadliest-highways-type things are reserved for Toronto. ;)
 
Maybe someone can tell me, but why is a man supposed to stand when a lady enters the room or gets up and returns to the table? I've never understood that one.
 
TriggerHippie said:
Hey, I've read "How To Be a Canadian," ... and the Québécois have the best parties ... if not the biggest. The biggest-baddest-meanest-largest mall-ish-parking-lot-deadliest-highways-type things are reserved for Toronto. ;)

Luckily for me, I don't drive.
 
Lee Chambers said:
Maybe someone can tell me, but why is a man supposed to stand when a lady enters the room or gets up and returns to the table? I've never understood that one.

Cos it's good manners? ;)

I dunno. I always have assumed it was respect, but I'm certainly not certain.
 
TriggerHippie said:
Cos it's good manners? ;)

I dunno. I always have assumed it was respect, but I'm certainly not certain.

Respect it is. As rising when Royalty enters. And every real woman deserves it.
 
Threadjack away.
We're too polite to say no to such charming individuals.

Yoda says a sign of respect it is to stand when enters a lady. :cool:

We shall have plenty of practice of being polite come the 2007 littogether.
And prior to that the great meeting of Femininininity and Ken, sometime in October. :cool: :cool:
 
I have to say that I generally try to hold open doors for women, or open them first when I'm walking with a woman, and I can't think of a single time in my life when a woman [or anyone, for that matter] has resented the courtesy. If I don't know them, I simply glance at them long enough to see that they are right behind me, hold the door with a smile on my face but not necessarily looking directly at them [averting my eyes downwards.... :rolleyes: ], and carry on. I don't make a production out of it, it's just something I do that seems to be courteous. Doesn't it annoy you when someone walking right in front of you lets the door slam in your face?

On the other hand, I'm a big believer in non-polite driving. Anything that goes too far out of the ordinary just makes things worse - people should just drive as if they know where they're going, and know when they have the right of way. Ceding your own right of way simply compounds traffic problems. The one exception is when it's all backed up and someone is trying to merge or turn into your lane. Then you take turns, since both your lanes are backed up.
 
I was taught courtesy and good manners and I use them, generally. Sometimes when the situation says it would be better or easier not to, I don't. But those times are few and far between, or so I like to think.
 
courtesy costs nothing...

and neither does a smile.

"What do you say?"

"Thankyou."

"Thankyou. There's a good girl."

"Is it time for dad coming home yet?"

"It was time two hours ago and he hasn't texted me yet." she said with a cooling voice

"Will he be here in time to read my story?"

"If he's not here I'm sure he'll come up to say night-night later. I'll read your story." she smiles.

later

"Hello love." he smiles.

"WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN? HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT TIME IT IS?"

Upstairs the girl whimpers softly in her sleep.




Both a smile and courtesy have a price worth paying.
 
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