Does globalization mean a borderless world? I get the feeling that some of my liberal friends think that would be a good thing. It seems like a huge step to me, one that they have not completely thought through. It's a beautiful concept with a huge potential for unintended consequences. It would fly in the face of everything we'e observed about the human condition since the dawn of time. I think it's generally ok for groups of humans to have shared values. I also see the obvious benefit of controlled mobility among those groups. I'm actually surprised this concept is gaining traction in light of the fact that multiculturalism has not been successful. In my country, I think we really need to re-evaluate our immigration laws, but clearly, there has to be standards for admitting foreigners to our country. And also, people shouldn't have to wait so long to be admitted. I also think that if our foreign policy was not so disruptive to other countries, there may not be such a huge surge of immigrants.
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People are not pouring across our southern border because of our foreign policy toward Mexico. 
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Globalization destroys governments by disrupting tax collection.
Whoever establishes the World Tax Collection regime, wins.
I'll betcha paypal collects and administers more tax money than most world governments.
The concept of country will in time devolve to Sport.
Violent sports such as MMA are wise long term investments.
Whoever establishes the World Tax Collection regime, wins.
I'll betcha paypal collects and administers more tax money than most world governments.
The concept of country will in time devolve to Sport.
Violent sports such as MMA are wise long term investments.
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Fuck off, Disgustipated..Your trademark are fifth-grade type jokes or personal attacks. Plus you awoke this alt. just after my sarcastic comments in the Blurt thread.
So you're not fooling anyone. Grow a brain.
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People are not pouring across our southern border because of our foreign policy toward Mexico.
I have to believe that, on some level, our relationship with Mexico is related to the phenomenon of people pouring across the border. Economic policy. Political policy. Is it not in the best interest of the US for Mexico to have a stable and prospeous economy?Is it not in the best interest of the US for the political system in Mexico to be fair and benificient to its own people?
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I'm not a fan of Putin (of course), but his comments sounded interesting:
Putin: Rivalry for world’s resources increasing, some try to disregard all rules
https://www.rt.com/news/348986-putin-resource-rivalry-rules/
“We are noticing persistent efforts by certain partners to maintain a monopoly on geopolitical dominance. They use their centuries of experience in suppressing, weakening, pitting their rivals against each other, as well as modern political, economic, financial, and informational methods,” he said.
The examples of such methods are “interference in the domestic politics of other countries, provoking regional conflicts and triggering so-called ‘color revolutions.’”
At times, terrorists, fundamentalists,far-right nationalists and even neo-fascists" are used as henchmen in achieving those goals."
Putin: Rivalry for world’s resources increasing, some try to disregard all rules
https://www.rt.com/news/348986-putin-resource-rivalry-rules/
“We are noticing persistent efforts by certain partners to maintain a monopoly on geopolitical dominance. They use their centuries of experience in suppressing, weakening, pitting their rivals against each other, as well as modern political, economic, financial, and informational methods,” he said.
The examples of such methods are “interference in the domestic politics of other countries, provoking regional conflicts and triggering so-called ‘color revolutions.’”
At times, terrorists, fundamentalists,far-right nationalists and even neo-fascists" are used as henchmen in achieving those goals."
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And of course Russia and the USSR never did/do that?
Crimea and the Ukraine are examples now. The East European communist bloc was USSR being imperialist.
China is doing this in Africa and doing better at it than Putin's Russia.
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Nations fail when the people lose respect for their culture. America, Britain, and most of Europe have no respect for their cultures. Islam has always conquered with gold rather than armies, its why Islam conquered all the poor places and none of the rich places. Hitler did the same, the day he ran outta gold is the day he lost world war 2. Every empire travels the same road to ruin.
No one bites the hand that feeds it, it sucks their cock.
No one bites the hand that feeds it, it sucks their cock.
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You swerved into a big truth here Lance. And it's not so much tax collection as monetary policy. Half of the reason for the EU being in such a mess. Each nation sets it's own monetary policy separate from the others. There can be only one central bank setting policy without chaos reigning.
The other issue is that each of the EU member states was free to set their own diplomatic policies and goals, often in conflict with one another. And separate military's is a subset of that.
But of course Russia NEVER engages in that behavior, right?
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Of course. They're just as bad as the US. Funny how they point fingers at each other.
I quoted it mainly for his last comment: about how far-right nationalists are also being used in this movement towards globalization.
It captured my attention because, from what I've seen in this forum, a few american liberals are quite into this trend towards globalization (see the EU and so on) while condemning the right-wingers.
That comment captured in just a few words this complex process of manipulation and pitting people against each other. The middle-level politicians (liberals and conservatives) fight among themselves, while the top level ones pull the strings.
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sadly, obama has put America on a path of failure
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Of course. Ironic that they point fingers at each other, when they're all the same.
I don't agree with many of RT's views, but I read it for balance (most online media is "pro-american" so to speak, and I want to see both perspectives). Plus they have a more concise and direct style.
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hitler lost WW2 at stalingrad and moscow.
oh, and when the russians got to berlin. that kinda fucked him up.
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this is what I don't understand ... the obama end game. clearly little boys in skirts - the obama isis group can't control America but China can. is this obama's plan for China to take ownership of America?
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Globalization is a process that has been on going for as long as civilization has been around. Technology has just sped up it's implementation. Illegal immigration has little to do with it. If globalization results in Mexico and Central American achieving standards of living and freedoms found in the US, then there would be no need for these folk to flee their country for a better life in the US.
Do you build a wall to keep them out? Or do you facilitate their economic prosperity and political freedoms?
Globalization has resulted in the spread of free markets, capitalism and democracy. All some oof the things the US hold up as their greatest ideals.
I've gotten crap about c and p of Wikipedia but an open sourced based encyclopedia is a great source of education. In this case to show that globalization even resulted in the colonization of the New World. And made freer the trade of goods and ideas.
There are certainly criticisms of globalization. Technology has vastly increased the implementation of it. Perhaps beyond the abilities of some areas to adapt. Certainly it has run up against local prejudices and ideas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization
Globalization (or globalisation) is the process of international integration arising from the interchange of world views, products, ideas and other aspects of culture. Advances in transportation, such as the steam locomotive, steamship, jet engine, container ships, and in telecommunications infrastructure, including the rise of the telegraph and its modern offspring, the Internet, and mobile phones, have been major factors in globalization, generating further interdependence of economic and cultural activities.] Though scholars place the origins of globalization in modern times, others trace its history long before the European Age of Discovery and voyages to the New World. Some even trace the origins to the third millennium BCE. Large-scale globalization began in the 19th century. In the late 19th century and early 20th century, the connectivity of the world's economies and cultures grew very quickly.
The word globalization is a very recent term, only establishing its current meaning in the 1970s, which "emerged from the intersection of four interrelated sets of "communities of practice": academics, journalists, publishers/editors, and librarians". In 2000, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) identified four basic aspects of globalization: trade and transactions, capital and investment movements, migration and movement of people, and the dissemination of knowledge. Further, environmental challenges such as global warming, cross-boundary water and air pollution, and over-fishing of the ocean are linked with globalization. Globalizing processes affect and are affected by business and work organization, economics, socio-cultural resources, and the natural environment. Academic literature commonly subdivides globalization into three major areas: economic globalization, cultural globalization and political globalization
Archaic globalization is seen as a phase in the history of globalization conventionally referring to globalizing events and developments from the time of the earliest civilizations until roughly the 1600s. This term is used to describe the relationships between communities and states and how they were created by the geographical spread of ideas and social norms at both local and regional levels.[35]
In this schema, three main prerequisites are posited for globalization to occur. The first is the idea of Eastern Origins, which shows how Western states have adapted and implemented learned principals from the East. Without the traditional ideas from the East, Western globalization would not have emerged the way it did. The second is distance. The interactions amongst states were not on a global scale and most often were confined to Asia, North Africa, the Middle East and certain parts of Europe. With early globalization it was difficult for states to interact with others that were not within close proximity. Eventually, technological advances allowed states to learn of others existence and another phase of globalization was able to occur. The third has to do with interdependency, stability and regularity. If a state is not dependent on another, then there is no way for either state to be mutually affected by the other. This is one of the driving forces behind global connections and trade; without either, globalization would not have emerged the way it did and states would still be dependent on their own production and resources to function. This is one of the arguments surrounding the idea of early globalization. It is argued that archaic globalization did not function in a similar manner to modern globalization because states were not as interdependent on others as they are today.
'Early modern-' or 'proto-globalization' covers a period of the history of globalization roughly spanning the years between 1600 and 1800. The concept of 'proto-globalization' was first introduced by historians A. G. Hopkins and Christopher Bayly. The term describes the phase of increasing trade links and cultural exchange that characterized the period immediately preceding the advent of high 'modern globalization' in the late 19th century.[40] This phase of globalization was characterized by the rise of maritime European empires, in the 16th and 17th centuries, first the Portuguese and Spanish Empires, and later the Dutch and British Empires. In the 17th century, world trade developed further when chartered companies like the British East India Company (founded in 1600) and the Dutch East India Company (founded in 1602, often described as the first multinational corporation in which stock was offered) were established.
Early modern globalization is distinguished from modern globalization on the basis of expansionism, the method of managing global trade, and the level of information exchange. The period is marked by such trade arrangements as the East India Company, the shift of hegemony to Western Europe, the rise of larger-scale conflicts between powerful nations such as the Thirty Year War, and a rise of new commodities – most particularly slave trade. The Triangular Trade made it possible for Europe to take advantage of resources within the western hemisphere. The transfer of animal stocks, plant crops and epidemic diseases associated with Alfred Crosby's concept of The Columbian Exchange also played a central role in this process. Early modern trade and communications involved a vast group including European, Muslim, Indian, Southeast Asian and Chinese merchants, particularly in the Indian Ocean region.
During the 19th century, globalization approached its modern form as a direct result of the industrial revolution. Industrialization allowed standardized production of household items using economies of scale while rapid population growth created sustained demand for commodities. In the 19th century, steamships reduced the cost of international transport significantly and railroads made inland transport cheaper. The transport revolution occurred some time between 1820 and 1850. More nations embraced international trade. Globalization in this period was decisively shaped by nineteenth-century imperialism such as in Africa and Asia. The invention of shipping containers in 1956 helped advance the globalization of commerce.
Economic globalization is the increasing economic interdependence of national economies across the world through a rapid increase in cross-border movement of goods, service, technology and capital. Whereas the globalization of business is centered around the diminution of international trade regulations as well as tariffs, taxes, and other impediments that suppresses global trade, economic globalization is the process of increasing economic integration between countries, leading to the emergence of a global marketplace or a single world market. Depending on the paradigm, economic globalization can be viewed as either a positive or a negative phenomenon. Economic globalization comprises the globalization of production, markets, competition, technology, and corporations and industries.[54] Current globalization trends can be largely accounted for by developed economies integrating with less developed economies by means of foreign direct investment, the reduction of trade barriers as well as other economic reforms and, in many cases, immigration.
Cultural globalization refers to the transmission of ideas, meanings and values around the world in such a way as to extend and intensify social relations.[62] This process is marked by the common consumption of cultures that have been diffused by the Internet, popular culture media, and international travel. This has added to processes of commodity exchange and colonization which have a longer history of carrying cultural meaning around the globe. The circulation of cultures enables individuals to partake in extended social relations that cross national and regional borders. The creation and expansion of such social relations is not merely observed on a material level. Cultural globalization involves the formation of shared norms and knowledge with which people associate their individual and collective cultural identities. It brings increasing interconnectedness among different populations and cultures.[63]
Cultural globalization has increased cross-cultural contacts but may be accompanied by a decrease in the uniqueness of once-isolated communities. For example, sushi is available in Germany as well as Japan but Euro-Disney outdraws the city of Paris, potentially reducing demand for "authentic" French pastry. Globalization's contribution to the alienation of individuals from their traditions may be modest compared to the impact of modernity itself, as alleged by existentialists such as Jean-Paul Sartre and Albert Camus. Globalization has expanded recreational opportunities by spreading pop culture, particularly via the Internet and satellite television.
Religious movements were among the earliest cultural elements to globalize, being spread by force, migration, evangelists, imperialists and traders. Christianity, Islam, Buddhism and more recently sects such as Mormonism, which have taken root and influenced endemic cultures in places far from their origins.
In general, globalization may ultimately reduce the importance of nation states. Supranational institutions such as the European Union, the WTO, the G8 or the International Criminal Court replace or extend national functions to facilitate international agreement. In particular, the globalization of the US grand strategy may have already reduced the importance of both nation states and the above-mentioned supranational institutions. Some observers attribute a relative decline in US power to globalization, particularly due to the country's high trade deficit. This led to a global power shift towards Asian states, particularly China, which unleashed market forces and achieved tremendous growth rates. As of 2011, the Chinese economy was on track to overtake the United States by 2025.
Increasingly, non-governmental organizations influence public policy across national boundaries, including humanitarian aid and developmental efforts. Philanthropic organizations with global missions are also coming to the forefront of humanitarian efforts; charities such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Accion International, the Acumen Fund (now Acumen) and the Echoing Green have combined the business model with philanthropy, giving rise to business organizations such as the Global Philanthropy Group and new associations of philanthropists such as the Global Philanthropy Forum.
Reactions to processes contributing to globalization have varied widely with a history as long as extraterritorial contact and trade. Philosophical differences regarding the costs and benefits of such processes give rise to a broad-range of ideologies and social movements. Proponents of economic growth, expansion and development, in general, view globalizing processes as desirable or necessary to the well-being of human society.[92]
Antagonists view one or more globalizing processes as detrimental to social well-being on a global or local scale;[92] this includes those who question either the social or natural sustainability of long-term and continuous economic expansion, the social structural inequality caused by these processes, and the colonial, imperialistic, or hegemonic ethnocentrism, cultural assimilation and cultural appropriation that underlie such processes.
Critiques of globalization generally stem from discussions surrounding the impact of such processes on the planet as well as the human costs. They challenge directly traditional metrics, such as GDP, and look to other measures, such as the Gini coefficient or the Happy Planet Index, and point to a "multitude of interconnected fatal consequences–social disintegration, a breakdown of democracy, more rapid and extensive deterioration of the environment, the spread of new diseases, increasing poverty and alienation" which they claim are the unintended consequences of globalization. Others point out that, while the forces of globalization have led to the spread of western-style democracy, this has been accompanied by an increase in inter-ethnic tension and violence as free market economic policies combine with democratic processes of universal suffrage as well as an escalation in militarization to impose democratic principles and as a means to conflict resolution.
Do you build a wall to keep them out? Or do you facilitate their economic prosperity and political freedoms?
Globalization has resulted in the spread of free markets, capitalism and democracy. All some oof the things the US hold up as their greatest ideals.
I've gotten crap about c and p of Wikipedia but an open sourced based encyclopedia is a great source of education. In this case to show that globalization even resulted in the colonization of the New World. And made freer the trade of goods and ideas.
There are certainly criticisms of globalization. Technology has vastly increased the implementation of it. Perhaps beyond the abilities of some areas to adapt. Certainly it has run up against local prejudices and ideas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization
Globalization (or globalisation) is the process of international integration arising from the interchange of world views, products, ideas and other aspects of culture. Advances in transportation, such as the steam locomotive, steamship, jet engine, container ships, and in telecommunications infrastructure, including the rise of the telegraph and its modern offspring, the Internet, and mobile phones, have been major factors in globalization, generating further interdependence of economic and cultural activities.] Though scholars place the origins of globalization in modern times, others trace its history long before the European Age of Discovery and voyages to the New World. Some even trace the origins to the third millennium BCE. Large-scale globalization began in the 19th century. In the late 19th century and early 20th century, the connectivity of the world's economies and cultures grew very quickly.
The word globalization is a very recent term, only establishing its current meaning in the 1970s, which "emerged from the intersection of four interrelated sets of "communities of practice": academics, journalists, publishers/editors, and librarians". In 2000, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) identified four basic aspects of globalization: trade and transactions, capital and investment movements, migration and movement of people, and the dissemination of knowledge. Further, environmental challenges such as global warming, cross-boundary water and air pollution, and over-fishing of the ocean are linked with globalization. Globalizing processes affect and are affected by business and work organization, economics, socio-cultural resources, and the natural environment. Academic literature commonly subdivides globalization into three major areas: economic globalization, cultural globalization and political globalization
Archaic globalization is seen as a phase in the history of globalization conventionally referring to globalizing events and developments from the time of the earliest civilizations until roughly the 1600s. This term is used to describe the relationships between communities and states and how they were created by the geographical spread of ideas and social norms at both local and regional levels.[35]
In this schema, three main prerequisites are posited for globalization to occur. The first is the idea of Eastern Origins, which shows how Western states have adapted and implemented learned principals from the East. Without the traditional ideas from the East, Western globalization would not have emerged the way it did. The second is distance. The interactions amongst states were not on a global scale and most often were confined to Asia, North Africa, the Middle East and certain parts of Europe. With early globalization it was difficult for states to interact with others that were not within close proximity. Eventually, technological advances allowed states to learn of others existence and another phase of globalization was able to occur. The third has to do with interdependency, stability and regularity. If a state is not dependent on another, then there is no way for either state to be mutually affected by the other. This is one of the driving forces behind global connections and trade; without either, globalization would not have emerged the way it did and states would still be dependent on their own production and resources to function. This is one of the arguments surrounding the idea of early globalization. It is argued that archaic globalization did not function in a similar manner to modern globalization because states were not as interdependent on others as they are today.
'Early modern-' or 'proto-globalization' covers a period of the history of globalization roughly spanning the years between 1600 and 1800. The concept of 'proto-globalization' was first introduced by historians A. G. Hopkins and Christopher Bayly. The term describes the phase of increasing trade links and cultural exchange that characterized the period immediately preceding the advent of high 'modern globalization' in the late 19th century.[40] This phase of globalization was characterized by the rise of maritime European empires, in the 16th and 17th centuries, first the Portuguese and Spanish Empires, and later the Dutch and British Empires. In the 17th century, world trade developed further when chartered companies like the British East India Company (founded in 1600) and the Dutch East India Company (founded in 1602, often described as the first multinational corporation in which stock was offered) were established.
Early modern globalization is distinguished from modern globalization on the basis of expansionism, the method of managing global trade, and the level of information exchange. The period is marked by such trade arrangements as the East India Company, the shift of hegemony to Western Europe, the rise of larger-scale conflicts between powerful nations such as the Thirty Year War, and a rise of new commodities – most particularly slave trade. The Triangular Trade made it possible for Europe to take advantage of resources within the western hemisphere. The transfer of animal stocks, plant crops and epidemic diseases associated with Alfred Crosby's concept of The Columbian Exchange also played a central role in this process. Early modern trade and communications involved a vast group including European, Muslim, Indian, Southeast Asian and Chinese merchants, particularly in the Indian Ocean region.
During the 19th century, globalization approached its modern form as a direct result of the industrial revolution. Industrialization allowed standardized production of household items using economies of scale while rapid population growth created sustained demand for commodities. In the 19th century, steamships reduced the cost of international transport significantly and railroads made inland transport cheaper. The transport revolution occurred some time between 1820 and 1850. More nations embraced international trade. Globalization in this period was decisively shaped by nineteenth-century imperialism such as in Africa and Asia. The invention of shipping containers in 1956 helped advance the globalization of commerce.
Economic globalization is the increasing economic interdependence of national economies across the world through a rapid increase in cross-border movement of goods, service, technology and capital. Whereas the globalization of business is centered around the diminution of international trade regulations as well as tariffs, taxes, and other impediments that suppresses global trade, economic globalization is the process of increasing economic integration between countries, leading to the emergence of a global marketplace or a single world market. Depending on the paradigm, economic globalization can be viewed as either a positive or a negative phenomenon. Economic globalization comprises the globalization of production, markets, competition, technology, and corporations and industries.[54] Current globalization trends can be largely accounted for by developed economies integrating with less developed economies by means of foreign direct investment, the reduction of trade barriers as well as other economic reforms and, in many cases, immigration.
Cultural globalization refers to the transmission of ideas, meanings and values around the world in such a way as to extend and intensify social relations.[62] This process is marked by the common consumption of cultures that have been diffused by the Internet, popular culture media, and international travel. This has added to processes of commodity exchange and colonization which have a longer history of carrying cultural meaning around the globe. The circulation of cultures enables individuals to partake in extended social relations that cross national and regional borders. The creation and expansion of such social relations is not merely observed on a material level. Cultural globalization involves the formation of shared norms and knowledge with which people associate their individual and collective cultural identities. It brings increasing interconnectedness among different populations and cultures.[63]
Cultural globalization has increased cross-cultural contacts but may be accompanied by a decrease in the uniqueness of once-isolated communities. For example, sushi is available in Germany as well as Japan but Euro-Disney outdraws the city of Paris, potentially reducing demand for "authentic" French pastry. Globalization's contribution to the alienation of individuals from their traditions may be modest compared to the impact of modernity itself, as alleged by existentialists such as Jean-Paul Sartre and Albert Camus. Globalization has expanded recreational opportunities by spreading pop culture, particularly via the Internet and satellite television.
Religious movements were among the earliest cultural elements to globalize, being spread by force, migration, evangelists, imperialists and traders. Christianity, Islam, Buddhism and more recently sects such as Mormonism, which have taken root and influenced endemic cultures in places far from their origins.
In general, globalization may ultimately reduce the importance of nation states. Supranational institutions such as the European Union, the WTO, the G8 or the International Criminal Court replace or extend national functions to facilitate international agreement. In particular, the globalization of the US grand strategy may have already reduced the importance of both nation states and the above-mentioned supranational institutions. Some observers attribute a relative decline in US power to globalization, particularly due to the country's high trade deficit. This led to a global power shift towards Asian states, particularly China, which unleashed market forces and achieved tremendous growth rates. As of 2011, the Chinese economy was on track to overtake the United States by 2025.
Increasingly, non-governmental organizations influence public policy across national boundaries, including humanitarian aid and developmental efforts. Philanthropic organizations with global missions are also coming to the forefront of humanitarian efforts; charities such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Accion International, the Acumen Fund (now Acumen) and the Echoing Green have combined the business model with philanthropy, giving rise to business organizations such as the Global Philanthropy Group and new associations of philanthropists such as the Global Philanthropy Forum.
Reactions to processes contributing to globalization have varied widely with a history as long as extraterritorial contact and trade. Philosophical differences regarding the costs and benefits of such processes give rise to a broad-range of ideologies and social movements. Proponents of economic growth, expansion and development, in general, view globalizing processes as desirable or necessary to the well-being of human society.[92]
Antagonists view one or more globalizing processes as detrimental to social well-being on a global or local scale;[92] this includes those who question either the social or natural sustainability of long-term and continuous economic expansion, the social structural inequality caused by these processes, and the colonial, imperialistic, or hegemonic ethnocentrism, cultural assimilation and cultural appropriation that underlie such processes.
Critiques of globalization generally stem from discussions surrounding the impact of such processes on the planet as well as the human costs. They challenge directly traditional metrics, such as GDP, and look to other measures, such as the Gini coefficient or the Happy Planet Index, and point to a "multitude of interconnected fatal consequences–social disintegration, a breakdown of democracy, more rapid and extensive deterioration of the environment, the spread of new diseases, increasing poverty and alienation" which they claim are the unintended consequences of globalization. Others point out that, while the forces of globalization have led to the spread of western-style democracy, this has been accompanied by an increase in inter-ethnic tension and violence as free market economic policies combine with democratic processes of universal suffrage as well as an escalation in militarization to impose democratic principles and as a means to conflict resolution.
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i would doubt a president of the USA has a plan for china to take ownership of the aforementioned.
there's no comparison to be made between your suggestion and the german deprivations at stalingrad and moscow.
it doesn't snow in florida, does it?
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Sure, we have 'snow' in Florida ... especially when our congressmen visit DC
(ie Trey Radel)
On a serious note obama has been a disaster for the economy. clearly, one can make an argument that obama followed the path that Hitler and the Nazi party took to gain control of a country.
What % of American's are now receiving some sort of 'state' or welfare payment (and we have to include obamacare into the mix as that is clearly welfare)? by hooking American's on obamacare, obama just vested millions of American's on the obama ticket. just like Jessie Jackson hooked million of black American's by helping enslave them with welfare and free housing.
America is becoming weaker and weaker. obama clearly has no clue about the economy and China has hacked their hearts away while obama looks away. clearly hillary will follow the path which will make America even weaker and China will become the next super power.
in time less revenue will come into the coffers as American companies suffer so who will pay and support all these people on welfare?
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Sure, we have 'snow' in Florida ... especially when our congressmen visit DC
(ie Trey Radel)
On a serious note obama has been a disaster for the economy. clearly, one can make an argument that obama followed the path that Hitler and the Nazi party took to gain control of a country.
What % of American's are now receiving some sort of 'state' or welfare payment (and we have to include obamacare into the mix as that is clearly welfare)? by hooking American's on obamacare, obama just vested millions of American's on the obama ticket. just like Jessie Jackson hooked million of black American's by helping enslave them with welfare and free housing.
America is becoming weaker and weaker. obama clearly has no clue about the economy and China has hacked their hearts away while obama looks away. clearly hillary will follow the path which will make America even weaker and China will become the next super power.
in time less revenue will come into the coffers as American companies suffer so who will pay and support all these people on welfare?
102% of your post has no bearing on what occurred in russia during WW2.
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True, but when have I ever stayed on course. Now, do you agree or disagree with what I posted?
the only part of WWII ... clearly obama read Hitler book and used it as his own play book for when team obama seized power of America
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i lost interest at 'obama'. sorry.
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Geronimo you have to excuse Jen. Like many Republicans she thinks Obama is the smartest being ever to exist. Right up there with comic book villains who's single flaw in their uber complex plan is that they want to keep selling issues so they screw up something basic. In Obama's case it's that he's counting on Hillary to get two terms.
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Sounds like the Wal Mart strategy.
So, do you see a time when we have 4 blocs fighting a world war for global dominance?
A time when being a sovereign country just ain't gonna cut it?
