Global Warming - Non-Political Please

[Zeb_Carter]

So, I'm sitting here in my office (at home) looking out the window at the inch and a half of snow sitting on the ground in my backyard.

It's April for christ sake!

Where is the global warming when you want warm weather?

 

[Straight-8]

Yeah, I'm sometimes having trouble making the local and anecdotal fit with the science. We've had an average winter here overall. It snowed on the high country over easter - still on the ground. It sure doesn't feel like things are warming up in my little corner of the world. I also note that, when we do happen to break a temperature record, it is usually something like 'the hottest April 1st since 1946'. I think to myself: so what was going on in 1946? Was it global warming then too??

But I accept the science for what it is worth. And we do need to slow the pollution and consumption regardless of global warming. But I'm damned if I think giving the government or some other do-gooder agency more money is going to do a thing to help the environment. Governments are like heroin addicts: give them money and the only thing they want is more money. (Oops, maybe getting political - but not partisan..they're all the same!)

 

[Liar]

So, I'm sitting here in my office (at home) looking out the window at the inch and a half of snow sitting on the ground in my backyard.

It's April for christ sake!

Where is the global warming when you want warm weather?

Aparently, here. it should NOT be 20 C for another 1,5 months.

Not that I'm complaining. I'll buy a fucking SUV if it helps summer along.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Aparently, here. it should NOT be 20 C for another 1,5 months.

Not that I'm complaining. I'll buy a fucking SUV if it helps summer along.

I don't know if I would go that far, just yet! Them suckers can sure guzzle the gas though.

All the "science" I have read places the location, weather wise, of my city/state approx. 400 miles to the southwest of where it is now in the coming years.

I'm just wondering what happened to the shift?

According to science this has been the coldest April so far in the history of New York City. Kind of makes you wonder? About the "science".

 

[Kev H]

Aparently, here. it should NOT be 20 C for another 1,5 months.

Not that I'm complaining. I'll buy a fucking SUV if it helps summer along.

*cackles*

But consider this: Nature's little trick not only stomped down on the early spring plants, it stamped out gazillions of bugs that would have bothered you over the next few months. I love late freezes, because I hate bugs. Thank you, dearest Mother.

 

[Carnevil9]

I'm afraid that you cannot discuss Global Warming in a Non-Political manner, since it is purely a political issue. Just try to find a Global Warming true believer who is not also a liberal pinhead socialist!......Carney

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I'm afraid that you cannot discuss Global Warming in a Non-Political manner, since it is purely a political issue. Just try to find a Global Warming true believer who is not also a liberal pinhead socialist!......Carney

I said no politics! If you want to call people names start you're own thread!

 

[Kev H]

I said no politics! If you want to call people names start you're own thread!

Yeah, what he said (only it's *your ). So, who's with me? Hooray for cold weather killing off lots of the bugs! I'd pick wearing a jacket over a netted suit any day.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Yeah, what he said (only it's *your ). So, who's with me? Hooray for cold weather killing off lots of the bugs! I'd pick wearing a jacket over a netted suit any day.

Ok, it's your...give me a break! You understood what I meant!

 

[cantdog]

How old are you, beavis?

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Gee... it was 76 here a couple days ago when you people were getting snow. It's still warm, but trying to rain. Spring!!!!

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Jenny_Jackson/NW183rd.jpg

 

[3113]

Where is the global warming when you want warm weather?

Here in the southwest and west U.S. where it's causing earlier than usual summer AND drought. Oh...and up at the poles which are melting away. Also Greenland which might well go back to being green.

Global warming means the global climate goes up in temperature and things that affect the weather change: polar ice caps melt, pour more than the usual amount of fresh water to the oceans, and that changes ocean currents and the weather. Rocks that don't usually get heated get hot, hold and radiate that heat making the usually cool air...and, once again, you get different weather. If there used to be a glacier and now there isn't, then, again, air is not as cold, and that changes weather patterns too. That doesn't just mean warm air coming your way. It can mean wind currents that draw away warm air. And not just for that local area--there's a domino effect, one change in weather changing other weather and so on.

For example, the wettest year in California history was also the driest year in Seattle history. Weather in one place affects another place. So, places in Canada that have snow up through May are suddenly warm, and meanwhile you are hit by freak snow storms.

That's if you wanted a real answer

 

[cantdog]

3113, if the dude really wondered about the science, he'd have checked it out. Next time he's in a doctor's office or an airport, read a magazine article or somethin. This isn't hard.

 

[FatDino]

I could write a 50K word essay on this topic. But I guess right now that won't be appropriate

But to answer the original question, global warming is the increase of the average temperature of the Earth's near-surface air and water. Its effects include the rising of the intensity and frequency of uh....extreme weather. Meaning, winters are colder and summers are hotter than before and also last longer. (I think this is already proven )

 

[Zeb_Carter]

How old are you, beavis?

Old enough butthead!

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Here in the southwest and west U.S. where it's causing earlier than usual summer AND drought. Oh...and up at the poles which are melting away. Also Greenland which might well go back to being green.

Global warming means the global climate goes up in temperature and things that affect the weather change: polar ice caps melt, pour more than the usual amount of fresh water to the oceans, and that changes ocean currents and the weather. Rocks that don't usually get heated get hot, hold and radiate that heat making the usually cool air...and, once again, you get different weather. If there used to be a glacier and now there isn't, then, again, air is not as cold, and that changes weather patterns too. That doesn't just mean warm air coming your way. It can mean wind currents that draw away warm air. And not just for that local area--there's a domino effect, one change in weather changing other weather and so on.

For example, the wettest year in California history was also the driest year in Seattle history. Weather in one place affects another place. So, places in Canada that have snow up through May are suddenly warm, and meanwhile you are hit by freak snow storms.

That's if you wanted a real answer

Greenland being green, with the ice cap becoming thicker each year, I doubt it.

But we are starting to talk politics as you really can't talk about global warming without getting in a discussion of politics.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Got all this sussed. When I want to go skiing, it rains. When I get the barbecue set up in April, the winds howl and I get sleet.

Has anyone told you we're still in an ice age (true).

 

[Zeb_Carter]

3113, if the dude really wondered about the science, he'd have checked it out. Next time he's in a doctor's office or an airport, read a magazine article or somethin. This isn't hard.

Well there is "science" and then there is Science. "Science" which is funded by the government results in the views of that government on the subject being researched being found as true for fear the funding for the "scientists" will be stopped.

So how can "science" be real science anytime a government or group has a bias one way or another? "Science" has just become the same as big business. You get a government grant to research something and if your results aren't what the politico's expected then your grants are canceled.

So your have your heads of state, political leaders, etc. who believe in "Global Warming" is caused by man and their scientist come up with "science" that says global warming is caused by man. Coincidence?

Then there are those who don't believe "Global Warming" is caused by man. Guess what, their scientists come up with "science" that it is not. Coincidence?

So, who to believe? If you just read about one side of the equation how do you get a result? If you believe both, then what does it mean? If you believe neither you are jumped on by both sides, but more by the believers than the non-believers.

And they call you things like bevis or imply that you're too stupid to read.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I could write a 50K word essay on this topic. But I guess right now that won't be appropriate

But to answer the original question, global warming is the increase of the average temperature of the Earth's near-surface air and water. Its effects include the rising of the intensity and frequency of uh....extreme weather. Meaning, winters are colder and summers are hotter than before and also last longer. (I think this is already proven )

And in the last hundred years how much has that average temperature increased? Anyone... Bueler?

1, that's one, degree.

 

[oggbashan]

I think the global warming's over here.

Last weekend our beaches were crowded and people were getting sunburnt.

The forecast for next weekend is 26 or 27C, but not at my house. I'm too close to the sea and have sea breezes. That reduces the temperature by 2 or 3 degrees. If I want to be hotter I walk 100 yards inland.

Og

 

[FatDino]

Greenland being green, with the ice cap becoming thicker each year, I doubt it.

But we are starting to talk politics as you really can't talk about global warming without getting in a discussion of politics.

This topic can be as broad as we want. Not only politics is responsible, so is economics. But again, those two fields affect each other. You can't really talk about how politics caused global warming without looking at economics, because after all, all the greenhouse gases which are the main cause of all these changes are waste products of the industries. This is one of the most controversial issues we hear everyday. Well, maybe one day Earth will have to be abandoned and humans will move to some distant planet. And then start another "global warming" over again. The only solution now is to start using alternative energy sources, ones that are clean, of course

 

[S-Des]

And they call you things like bevis or imply that you're too stupid to read.

That's just them showing you how much more compassionate and caring Liberals are.

 

[FatDino]

And in the last hundred years how much has that average temperature increased? Anyone... Bueler?

1, that's one, degree.

Yes, and one is enough to make you whine about the long winter you're getting.

One is enough to melt the ice at both poles. Enough to acidify the oceans, destroy fish habitats, deplete the ozone layer and cause changes in the pattern of precipitation in the air.

Temperature rising isn't the only effect of global warming. It was caused by others and then creates its own problems.

In Northen Europe, especially Sweden, there are hundreds of lakes which are now as clear as crystal. There is absolutely no fish in them, and therefore, very few animals live in nearby areas. Why? Because those lakes have been acidified by the acid rains and unfortunately, fish can't live in water that is as sour as lime juice.

Maybe the effects of global warming aren't very clear where you live, but in other places, many places, people witness them everyday. Blame the wind and the ocean currents that brought those places carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide.

 

[slyc_willie]

Yeah, I'm sometimes having trouble making the local and anecdotal fit with the science. We've had an average winter here overall. It snowed on the high country over easter - still on the ground. It sure doesn't feel like things are warming up in my little corner of the world. I also note that, when we do happen to break a temperature record, it is usually something like 'the hottest April 1st since 1946'. I think to myself: so what was going on in 1946? Was it global warming then too??

I was talking about this with a friend recently. Around here in central Texas, we had a coldsnap that forced our temperatures down to near-freezing at night, with daily highs of 45-50. Weather reports have said that we broke a record for the coldest April 8th since 1936.

I've heard that a lot around here, about both the coldest and hottest days and other weather phenomena. And it always seems that the last time central TX had freaky weather patterns was in the 30s, during the time of the Dust Bowl.

Maybe it's a cyclical thing . . . every 70 years the earth gets the sniffles . . .

 

[3113]

That's just them showing you how much more compassionate and caring Liberals are.

Liberals ceased being caring and compassionate when conservatives took advantage of that to beat them up and steal their lunch money. They now fight back and don't give a shit about being kind, gentle or even understanding. They've learned the hard way that no one listens to those who are fair and understanding, they only listen to bullies who shout others down and use insults to get their points across.