GLBT considerations.

[Tymeless]

I was talking with a couple people and i was thinking maybe we could get a sticky or something with some possible rule considerations while maybe not rules per say but some things that people might consider making before a post that could offend some people. So everyone throw in some things you think would help this and if they aren't made rules at least some people might read it and think before making a post.


I'd like the word She-male to be removed from anyone and everyones vocabulary
as well as ladyboy.

i'll add more if i think of some later.

 

[Wolfman1982]

as long the word isn´t censored, then I am ok with it. Since censor filters = a nono to me. Take it or leave , since I fucking hate censoring of words.

 

[Chicklet]

the problem is that the inconsiderate assholes who post the stupid things in the first place would never be considerate enough to read the sticky.

 

[Etoile]

I was talking with a couple people and i was thinking maybe we could get a sticky or something with some possible rule considerations while maybe not rules per say but some things that people might consider making before a post that could offend some people. So everyone throw in some things you think would help this and if they aren't made rules at least some people might read it and think before making a post.


I'd like the word She-male to be removed from anyone and everyones vocabulary
as well as ladyboy.

i'll add more if i think of some later.

Unfortunately this isn't really something you can legislate, even if it's only "guidelines" for good behavior. For one thing, Literotica is focused on free speech. A better approach would be educating people who use offensive terms on why they are disturbing or upsetting.

 

[Evan Ver]

Unfortunately this isn't really something you can legislate, even if it's only "guidelines" for good behavior. For one thing, Literotica is focused on free speech. A better approach would be educating people who use offensive terms on why they are disturbing or upsetting.

I vote for the Etoile approach. I would be interested to know what terms people consider offensive and why.

 

[W_MA_DWM]

I was talking with a couple people and i was thinking maybe we could get a sticky or something with some possible rule considerations while maybe not rules per say but some things that people might consider making before a post that could offend some people. So everyone throw in some things you think would help this and if they aren't made rules at least some people might read it and think before making a post.


I'd like the word She-male to be removed from anyone and everyones vocabulary
as well as ladyboy.

i'll add more if i think of some later.

Hey, girl, most of us didn't even know that those terms were offensive to trans-gendered people. I saw your reply in that post where the guy was asking about "shemales."

You have to understand that most of us don't mean to offend anyone by using those words.

You're being too sensitive. I have heard that hormones will have an affect on the mind and that may be why you're feeling insulted and maybe even hurt.

Please, don't take anything I'm saying here the wrong way. Just overlook some of life's realities, dear.

 

[Etoile]

Hey, girl, most of us didn't even know that those terms were offensive to trans-gendered people. I saw your reply in that post where the guy was asking about "shemales."

You have to understand that most of us don't mean to offend anyone by using those words.

You're being too sensitive. I have heard that hormones will have an affect on the mind and that may be why you're feeling insulted and maybe even hurt.

Please, don't take anything I'm saying here the wrong way. Just overlook some of life's realities, dear.

Actually, I don't think she is overreacting. Calling a transwoman a shemale is like calling a black person a nigger. It's equally offensive. Now, obviously you didn't know shemale was offensive, that's fine. But now you do know. Would you, knowing the word nigger was offensive, still call somebody that? Of course not. Would you say they were overreacting if they took offense? I don't think so. Shemale is just as offensive as nigger; now you know.

And honestly, blaming it on hormones is not just offensive, it's ridiculous. If a black woman was upset that you called her a nigger, would you say "oh you're just PMS'ing" to her? That's what you've just said to Tiffany.

Yes, people ARE sensitive about how others view them. It's part of being human. It takes a lot of guts to stand up and say "I don't appreciate you treating me this way, please stop, and here's a better alternative." A transgender person goes through things that cisgendered people like you and me will never understand. They deserve as much respect and dignity as everyone else. I'm not saying you shouldn't fetishize them - people fetishize all kinds of stuff - but if somebody tells you they don't like something, don't just tell them they're being oversensitive. Open your mind and listen to what they have to say. Learning to respect one another is the only way humanity is going to survive, period.

 

[Tymeless]

Actually, I don't think she is overreacting. Calling a transwoman a shemale is like calling a black person a nigger. It's equally offensive. Now, obviously you didn't know shemale was offensive, that's fine. But now you do know. Would you, knowing the word nigger was offensive, still call somebody that? Of course not. Would you say they were overreacting if they took offense? I don't think so. Shemale is just as offensive as nigger; now you know.

And honestly, blaming it on hormones is not just offensive, it's ridiculous. If a black woman was upset that you called her a nigger, would you say "oh you're just PMS'ing" to her? That's what you've just said to Tiffany.

Yes, people ARE sensitive about how others view them. It's part of being human. It takes a lot of guts to stand up and say "I don't appreciate you treating me this way, please stop, and here's a better alternative." A transgender person goes through things that cisgendered people like you and me will never understand. They deserve as much respect and dignity as everyone else. I'm not saying you shouldn't fetishize them - people fetishize all kinds of stuff - but if somebody tells you they don't like something, don't just tell them they're being oversensitive. Open your mind and listen to what they have to say. Learning to respect one another is the only way humanity is going to survive, period.

thanks Etoile going through what i've been through the last couple days i'm glad you spoke on this so i didn't have to. Last night was really tough on me and had i said something about this it wouldn't of been pretty. That being said thanks again Etoile you truly are a gem and I consider you a friend.

 

[W_MA_DWM]

Words and terms

Etoile,

Hey, words and labels are just that and some people are just to sensitive about it.

Hell, just a few days ago you called me a pervert and a queer. I replied back and said that I wasn't offended by the words.

Now, I'm wondering just how you really meant it?

 

[DerelictionOfSanity]

Kudos to Etoile.

I have to say that a lot of people have different standards as to what terms they find offensive, but once someone has come out and said that a certain term bothers them, it's only polite to avoid using it.

And yes, it is a good thing to have a thick skin and avoid being hurt by words, but it is extremely insensitive for someone to excuse their own behaviour by blaming someone else's 'hormones'. It's exactly that tone of intolerant dismissiveness which is just as upsetting, if not more so, than the words themselves.

And while I applaud the principles of free speech and I certainly wouldn't dream of censoring anyone, I do think it would be an excellent idea to have a courtesy list of offensive terms. There are some genuinely nice people out there, who would like to avoid making others feel bad. If nothing else, willingness to be polite to others stands as a criterion for who we may feel like speaking with in the future. Feel free to call me names, just don't expect to be my friend if you do.

That being said, if someone has made it clear that they don't mind people calling them a certain thing, then it's fair game.

 

[Tymeless]

My main reason for this thread is simple to get a list of terms we find offensive and why posted at the top of the forum so when someone does post offensive names and words like that we can just point them to the sticky and tell them now they don't have the excuse of they didn't know anymore so every time i see the term she-male i don't have to write out a long reply of that its insensitive and offends me and why.

 

[Etoile]

Etoile,

Hey, words and labels are just that and some people are just to sensitive about it.

Hell, just a few days ago you called me a pervert and a queer. I replied back and said that I wasn't offended by the words.

Now, I'm wondering just how you really meant it?

You seem not to have understood a single thing I've said, in this thread or the other that you are referencing. If you really believe that people are being oversensitive when they are offended by slurs, I fear there is very little hope for you to understand anything I could say. You seem to be so entrenched in the majority that you cannot even see the perspective of someone who is in the minority. I find this astonishingly closed-minded of you, and there's really nothing I can say to get you to realize that not everyone is in such a privileged position as you.