Girl Stuff: Makeup

CrimsonMaiden said:
I've never heard of it. What kind of store carries it? Keep in mind, I live in a backwater cowtown.

Hey, Crimson, If it helps, I have a big, brownish bruise-like discoloration on my right cheek, similar to a birthmark. I have found I have had the most success in terms of blending with revlon colorstay. It is the only brand I have tried on the market that doesn't have the pinkish hue commonly found in other products, which serves to only highlight said mark rather then conceal. I also have fairly dark skin though, so results may vary if you are lighter toned.

You can pretty much purchase it at most drug marts or wal-marts, and cost is approx. 7 dollars Canadian.

Tip: Assuming the scars aren't too deep, and do in fact bare a brownish-redish hue, might be a good idea to go a touch lighter than the rest of your skin, then follow up with a powder or foundation which matches your flesh tone. They will usually let you try a sampler at the counter if you are unsure.

Charley: Lancome concealer/foundation rules! Is the only resonably priced waterproof one out there.

Errrr... Sorry Doc.

Lipstick: A tube can keep me going for well over a year, but I don't think you are suppose to use them after that time because they expire. I own only two, though I'm probably out of the norm because I'm usually too lazy to color my face aside from a little blush and concealer.

Blush: I think rouge sounds much prettier.

Eyelids: I put cucumbers on mine sometimes when they are all puffy, but I doubt that's what you meant.

Purses: Only when I don't have pockets, as I tend to forget I'm carrying them and leave them behind otherwise. I do have a really cute collection of about ten, however. My mom keeps buying them for me because she hates seeing me shove everything into my pockets.
 
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dr_mabeuse said:
How long does a tube of lipstick last? About how many different tubes do you own at any given time?

Also: What do you call the stuff you put on your cheeks to make them look pink. It's not rouge anymore, is it. Is it blush?

And I know what eyeliner is, and mascara, but what about that stuff you put on your eyelids? Is that the same as the stuff you put over your eyes too?

And: do women even carry purses anymore? It occurs to me that I haven't seen many of them these days.

Need the info for a story. Yeah, that's it! It's for a story.

Been answered a gazillion (okay, couple dozen) times already, but I'll weigh in.

Lipstick: I have about 4 tubes and I've had them DECADES. Of course, I wear lipstick about twice a year. My mother's generation did not leave the house without it (and she still nags me to wear it). I'm a natural kinda gal, though. A touch of mascara and a hint of blush -- and I'm good to go.

The thing about make-up that has always amazed every man I've known is the eyelash curler. :D

I prefer the word "blush" over "rouge" -- depending on the age of the character. "Blush" is younger. "Rouge" for a matron -- or a whore.

Purses: Yes. I have many, but only use a couple of 'em ('cept on fancy occasions -- couple times a year). What's in it? Phone, hairbrush, gum, keys, money, credit cards, obligatory kids' pix, Chapstick-type stuff, nail clippers, floss, pen, and tampons during "that time of the month." Not a big bag. Casual and efficient. I'll spend $ on a good purse.
 
I went through a lipstick phase, but now I'm out of it. Very rarely do I wear it anymore. I still have a tube from 4 years ago though. :)
Eyeliner~ an absolute must. I will not leave the house without any on.
Mascara~ I wear it most of the time, but I'll go out without it.
Eyeshadow~ Occasionally, when I'm in the mood to color coordinate with my outfit. :)
Blush~ Almost never. I touch my face to often, lol.
No foundation, occasionally some powder...
And I don't use any "professional" products. Maybelline, Revlon, and Max Factor... is that bad?? LOL. :)
(Speaking of professional products... is it bad that I'm a hair stylist and I don't use products from the salon? Is it bad that I buy Suave??? LOL.)
Also, I carry a purse all the time. I bet I've got about 30 purses, all ready to go depending on the season, the weather, and what I'm wearing. :D
 
I use eyeliner, mascara, a trace amount of powder, eye shadow and blush. A little lip gloss and I'm set. All in all it takes me less than 5 minutes.

Now purses are my passion and the only thing I ever splurge on. I must have well over 300 but of course I've never thrown any away since I was a teen.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
It goes below your eyebrows and above your eyelids.

On Diana Ross it used to be this weird banana-yellow color.

Okay, so no one can tell me how long lipstick lasts. But give me a ballpark here: a week, a month, a year, five years? Say you have to use it every day for work. Or 5 days a week, anyhow.

I was trying to figure it out based on Chapstick, but I don't use chapstick anymore, and when I did, I'd either lose it before I used it up, or I'd lose the cap and it would get all fuzzy.


It's still shadow doc. Basically, you can apply one color to the eyelid proper and a complimentary color to the area just under the orbital bone. You can get different effects with color, the most common is shooting for making the eyes look bigger especially in theatrical makeup. You will usually see the brow carried out a little farther with an eyebrow pencil, then the area below colored one color, which blends into the shadow on the lid proper. Since you are mentioning a performer, you may well notice a small dot of color is usually applied to the inner corner of the eye. I'm not sure how it works, but it cuts down on red eye from bright lights.

A tube of lipstick can last months or even years. You have to realize a woman may have a favorite color, but she will, generally have several she likes and the different shades are usually coordinated with clothing and other cosmetics for whatever look she needs. Day, night, casual, dressy, formal, etc. Since there is no way to know how often she will need color X, the tube can last a very long time if it's an occasional use color, or just a month or two, if it's an everyday. From my experience, I loose more too mishaps than I actually use up :)
 
I have learned more in ten minutes on this thread than I have in the last ten years.
 
CharleyH said:
Scotts and Complexions but we are not in the US, concealer is Lancome best, and cover girl best cheap, and mad by same company which is L'Oreal ;)

Thanks Charley and others who answered :rose:
 
Dar~ said:
On my eyes I use liquid liner because the color is richer and it is easier to control. Then I use a black lengthening and thinckeng mascara. But BEFORE the liner and mascara, I put on my eyeshadow. I cover the lid with a light shade and then in the crease and on the outer edge of the lid I use a darker shade. Then I use a blending brush to smooth the edges where the two colors meet. On occassion (esp if the eyebrows havn't been waxed recently) I will use a brow pencil. just to define the shape of my eyebrow.

So let me see if I've got this straight:

I assume that not all women put stuff on in the same order. I imagine you get dressed first, and then do your makeup? Or no, that would only make sense if you had to put something on over your head. If you were wearing a shirt, say, it would make sense to do your make-up first, then put on the shirt, right?

So then what? Foundation first, followed by blush. Then eyeshadow, followed by eye liner, then mascara? Eyebrow pencil finishes the eyes, except for that blending business (that amazes me!)

Finally, lipstick and gloss?

I realize that probably not all women do all this stuff, but this is the Full English Breakfast I'm doing here. In this story, a guy is doing a girl's makeup, and she's going to turn around and look in the mirror and not be herself anymore. Her make-up is going to be both a sexual come-on and a mask.

Last thing: a purse can be a handbag or a clutch, right? A handbag can go over your shoulder, but a clutch you have to carry? Are there other types of purse? (besides fanny packs, please.)
 
dr_mabeuse said:
So let me see if I've got this straight:

I assume that not all women put stuff on in the same order. I imagine you get dressed first, and then do your makeup? Or no, that would only make sense if you had to put something on over your head. If you were wearing a shirt, say, it would make sense to do your make-up first, then put on the shirt, right?

So then what? Foundation first, followed by blush. Then eyeshadow, followed by eye liner, then mascara? Eyebrow pencil finishes the eyes, except for that blending business (that amazes me!)

Finally, lipstick and gloss?

I realize that probably not all women do all this stuff, but this is the Full English Breakfast I'm doing here. In this story, a guy is doing a girl's makeup, and she's going to turn around and look in the mirror and not be herself anymore. Her make-up is going to be both a sexual come-on and a mask.

Last thing: a purse can be a handbag or a clutch, right? A handbag can go over your shoulder, but a clutch you have to carry? Are there other types of purse? (besides fanny packs, please.)


Yes, put on your makeup in your bra and then put your shirt on. And you forgot powder. If you are using liquid foundation you typically need face powder to set the makeup. Does everyone use eyebrow pencil? That might be an age thing or something that people with fair hair worry about more than those of us with dark hair.

There are also the "doctor bag style" purses. That's what I'm carrying now. The handles are too short to go over my shoulder comfortably, so I hook it on my arm and carry it in the crook of elbow. Clutches are typically a fancy dress thing in my area. Be careful with clutches. They can either look like the cutting edge of fashion or 1980s matronly.

Luck,

Yui
 
dr_mabeuse said:
So let me see if I've got this straight:

I assume that not all women put stuff on in the same order. I imagine you get dressed first, and then do your makeup? Or no, that would only make sense if you had to put something on over your head. If you were wearing a shirt, say, it would make sense to do your make-up first, then put on the shirt, right?

So then what? Foundation first, followed by blush. Then eyeshadow, followed by eye liner, then mascara? Eyebrow pencil finishes the eyes, except for that blending business (that amazes me!)

Finally, lipstick and gloss?

I realize that probably not all women do all this stuff, but this is the Full English Breakfast I'm doing here. In this story, a guy is doing a girl's makeup, and she's going to turn around and look in the mirror and not be herself anymore. Her make-up is going to be both a sexual come-on and a mask.

Last thing: a purse can be a handbag or a clutch, right? A handbag can go over your shoulder, but a clutch you have to carry? Are there other types of purse? (besides fanny packs, please.)

Hair, then makeup (foundation, if any, followed by mascara -- which has to dry before another coat, if needed -- then powder, blush, eyeliner, shadow), then clothing. Lipstick is typically applied AFTER dressing.

Dunno about everyone else, but I put any perfume on after makeup but before clothing.
 
impressive said:
Hair, then makeup (foundation, if any, followed by mascara -- which has to dry before another coat, if needed -- then powder, blush, eyeliner, shadow), then clothing. Lipstick is typically applied AFTER dressing.

Dunno about everyone else, but I put any perfume on after makeup but before clothing.
I do makeup first and hair last. He's right, we all do this differently. :D
 
yui said:
I do makeup first and hair last. He's right, we all do this differently. :D

My hair is so short that if I waited 'til after makeup, it'd be dry & I'd have to re-wet it in order to style it. :rolleyes:
 
impressive said:
My hair is so short that if I waited 'til after makeup, it'd be dry & I'd have to re-wet it in order to style it. :rolleyes:
And my hair is longish, so I put it up to keep it out of my face when I actually go to the trouble of putting on makeup. :cathappy:
 
What's worse than a flirt thread: Girlie make-up thread

Point of international order. If she's english she will carry her purse inside her handbag. Purse is for money, handbag to carry purse.

The blob of mascara in the corner of the eye is traditional in stage make-up (I've no idea where the red-eye thing comes in as pro photographers will shade that sort of thing out on the print)

Order of make-up on stage was face first, eyes last. (only used liner and light eye shadow)

You may need more detailed advice on actual placement of make-up Zoot because as all the girlies know you can change the actual shape of your face, cheeks, nose etc by careful application and gradation of differing tones. Creating shadows and hollows where there are bumps and curves.

I'm told that the best make-up job looks like there isn't any make-up.

Edited to add, anusol for quick removal of crow's feet and eyedrops which will dilate the pupils for an "I'm interested" look.
 
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gauchecritic said:
Point of international order. If she's english she will carry her purse inside her handbag. Purse is for money, handbag to carry purse.

Which is analgous to wallet+purse in the U.S. ;)
 
gauchecritic said:
You may need more detailed advice on actual placement of make-up Zoot because as all the girlies know you can change the actual shape of your face, cheeks, nose etc by careful application and gradation of differing tones. Creating shadows and hollows where there are bumps and curves.

I don't know how to do any of that.
 
CrimsonMaiden said:
I don't know how to do any of that.


Some of it's easy, for example a light blush along the line where your cheekbones should be can give the illusion of having pronounced cheek bones. Some is difficult, sometimes to the point of not being worth learning how to do :)

If you're interested in learning a bit, the mabeline and lacome counters at most department stores have usually have someone there who can show you some tricks. The Merle Norman store, if you have on in your mall usually offers classes of a kind.

You can always pick up a book at the library on stage makeup. A lot of it won't apply, but the basic ideas behind shading and color to draw the eye are usually laid out in a way that is pretty easy to grasp :)
 
I don't.
Makes getting ready so much quicker.
Shower/hair/dress (as in clothes, not the 'item'...*shudder*/leave.

:D

Do I live up to my ..............persona......or what???

:D
 
Don't forget a light moisturiser to start before you apply the make-up. It should be put on sparingly with light upward strokes. Any excess can be blotted with powder puff or some of those make-up sponges. Then liquid foundation and powder, follow with a blush usually under the cheekbone in a triangle, then blend. Shadowing is something you have to play with, but the basic tenet is use lighter colors to brings something out, darker to create hollows. You can improve a jawline, nose or forehead this way.

Most women I know do their eyes next. Sounds like everyone here does it about the same way. I use a liner pencil myself. I've never really been good with the liquid liner and it always ends up too thick. If you're going to have the guy give her eyebrows, have him go against the lie of the hair then smooth it back. It gives a more natural look and avoids those hard pencil lines that only worked for Greta Garbo.

Last is lipstick. You need to start with a lip liner (a sort of lipstick pencil). Follow the line of the lips or maybe a little outside if you want to embellish. This should be a little darker if you want to define a blurry lip line and lighter if you want to make the mouth look lush. After that's done fill in the lips with color. Use a small brush for better control.

BTW, from my forays at the make-up counter it looks like sparkles are in this year, so you could actually finish off by having him take a big brush with some lightly frosted power whisk it over her face, but the female better be young or it could look stupid.


Jayne
 
Just to add my two cents worth for Dr Mab:

That 'eyeshadow' that is used above the eye socket and below the eyebrow is usually a lighter color and is called HIGHLIGHTER. As indicated by the ladies here it can be cream or powder, sparkly or matt finished. As far as I am aware it's meant to accentuate the eyes further.

Green_Gem
 
dr_mabeuse said:
How long does a tube of lipstick last? About how many different tubes do you own at any given time?

Also: What do you call the stuff you put on your cheeks to make them look pink. It's not rouge anymore, is it. Is it blush?

And I know what eyeliner is, and mascara, but what about that stuff you put on your eyelids? Is that the same as the stuff you put over your eyes too?

And: do women even carry purses anymore? It occurs to me that I haven't seen many of them these days.

Need the info for a story. Yeah, that's it! It's for a story.

I'm going to take this at face value and assume that it is for a story, and not you :D

How old is your character?

No one my age wears blush [or they don't admit it!]. And if they do, it would most likely be in a tube and not a compact.

Lipstick - how many? You don't want to know, but to give you an idea, more than 10. But, and it is a big BUT, lipstick colours go out of fashion so fast, that I doubt I would wear one for more than a few months until the new seasons colours. But again age - lipgloss, either in a pot or tube, can come in many more colours and is scented and has taste - I have one in chocolate.

Eyeliner - liquid or pencil?

Eyeshadow - just say compact. they have mirrors.

Mascara - different types, but ideally lengthens, thickens AND curls.

Oh, and I forgot to say I even have 2 lipsticks that make my lips sting and puff to give a fuller look. Does it work - who cares?

Purses - going out, probably carry card, key and cash in a little bag no bigger than a box of cigarettes. Shopping, probably a wallet and over the shoulder bag.

But everything I have is either glossy or glittery. Again, depends on age. Particularly when it comes to foundation and concealer.

Now, are you going to be brave and ask about shoes?

PS I love buying make-up, but don't wear it much. Don't know why.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
It goes below your eyebrows and above your eyelids.

On Diana Ross it used to be this weird banana-yellow color.

Okay, so no one can tell me how long lipstick lasts. But give me a ballpark here: a week, a month, a year, five years? Say you have to use it every day for work. Or 5 days a week, anyhow.

I was trying to figure it out based on Chapstick, but I don't use chapstick anymore, and when I did, I'd either lose it before I used it up, or I'd lose the cap and it would get all fuzzy.

We tend to have the same problem with lipstick. We might buy a new color and lose the other one in the bottom of our bottomless purses (yes, we still cary those- buy yourself a glamer or cosmo for an example of the endless variety- from hobo bags to ones that practically look like brief-cases. Some have millions of pockets and zippers- others, you just toss everything in, either way, stuff gets lost :rolleyes: ] Some bags have straps, some don't [but those are pretty damn impractical]. There are tiny ones barely bigger than a wallet, and giant ones that resemble duffle bags. I think most of us have at least 2 and when we clean them out we tend to switch bags, but often leave something we thought we didn't need (but turns out we did) in the old one. I like to keep a virtual first aid kit in mine- headache medicines, bandaids, saftey pins, PMS medicines, allergy medicines...)

Anyway, back to our lipstick. It gets lost or misplaced, we lose the tops sometimes, the damn stick breaks (some of us use a tiny little brush to salvage it, others just throw it away), the color goes out of style (or doesn't match our new hair color) We're probably supposed to throw it out every 3-6 months, but I figure a tube could last a few years before you ever get to the bottom of it, depending on how often you wear it, and how many tubes you rotate between.

Maybe that was too much information...

sorry :devil:
 
yui said:
Eye shadow. And you can use it below the eyes right up against the lash line, too. I do it if I'm using a funky color or really trying to go for the smoky-eyed look. And I carry a purse, too. I have lots of purses.


I have lots of purses to. But I should add that when I got to a bar (especially one where I will be dancing)- I try to wear jeans so I can put my money and my ID in my pocket. That's all I take and I don't want to leave it in my purse or coat while I'm on the dance floor.
 
wishfulthinking said:
PS I love buying make-up, but don't wear it much. Don't know why.

there's so much promise in those little tubes- unrealistic ones at that. Once we get home, we realize that it really won't make any difference in our lives if we wear color A or color B.:)

{I'm currently theorizing that all of our purchases are really attempts to by a lifestyle or a feeling or a *moment* that doesn't, in actuality even exist.}
 
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