ginger baker on why the rolling stones are not good musicians

[Bert Notorius]

rolling stone

I mean Charlie is a great friend of mine. I think the world of Charlie. When I was living in the States, Charlie came to see me at my house and he said, "I'd give you some tickets but I know you would never go!" I won't go within 10 miles of a Rolling Stones gig.


Cream- Fresh Cream 1966 (full album)

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Drummers. Granted, he's nearly as old as Methuselah but it sounded like he had somewhere better to be, and there was very little "why". Clapton OTOH is quite creamy.

Layla

 

[RobDownSouth]

Ginger Baker is probably the pissiest old fart in Rock and Roll.

I saw that movie, I figured he was still in South Africa. Guess not.

I hope the interviewer got "combat pay" for having to talk to that drunk old bastard.

 

[Adre]

Ginger Baker is probably the pissiest old fart in Rock and Roll.

I saw that movie, I figured he was still in South Africa. Guess not.

I hope the interviewer got "combat pay" for having to talk to that drunk old bastard.

And Jack Bruce is about the second pissiest. Notice who is still going strong. (EC).

 

[RobDownSouth]

And Jack Bruce is about the second pissiest. Notice who is still going strong. (EC).

Jack Bruce has the biggest ego in Rock. "I'm as good a bass player as Eric is a guitarist!"

Ummm, no. Just no.

 

[Adre]

Jack Bruce has the biggest ego in Rock. "I'm as good a bass player as Eric is a guitarist!"

Ummm, no. Just no.

Settled.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Where in the Rock-N-Roll bylaws does it say anything about having to be a good musician? You just need a pair of leather pants and a Reci sized ego.

 

[Killswitch]

Ginger Baker is over rated himself.

The stones are NOT great musicians.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Ginger Baker is over rated himself.

The stones are NOT great musicians.

Keith Richards admitted recently he doesn't even try to keep in time with the beat anymore. He thinks that its "bluesy" to play behind or in front of the beat. I noticed on clips from the last tour he was doing that....it makes the band sound like shit. Ronnie Wood still turns in a yeoman job each night though

 

[doctor_insanus]

I want Zombie John Bonham to rise this Halloween and beat the fuck out of all of them.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Still grouchy, after all these years....
*grins*

 

[anchoredinocean]

Anyone who would rate Eric Clapton above Keith Richards, well, you're just plain fucking wrong.

I'm not saying EC sucks, but he's pretty goddamn overrated.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Anyone who would rate Eric Clapton above Keith Richards, well, you're just plain fucking wrong.

I'm not saying EC sucks, but he's pretty goddamn overrated.

Are you that KRC person?

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

I read somewhere that the reason Cream broke up is because Baker and Bruce can't get along and that Baker has threatened to kick is ass on more than a few occasions.

I'd be happy if I could play half as well as any of the musicians mentioned in this thread.

 

[bronzeage]

Mick Jagger cried all the way to the bank.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

How does this apply to Sir Mick? He is the Stones and mostly just sings.

 

[Midnight_Man]

You may or may not like any of the above mentioned musicians, but they are all pretty damn good at what they do. If you have any doubts about how good Baker and Bruce are, listen to Cream's version of Crossroads.

 

[Not Normal]

Ginger was born a crmudgeon. He's a totally unique player and I respect and even dig his playing, but I'm happy to NOT know him personally. A lot of what he says is bullshit. He believes it to be true, a lot like the bozos here who talk political shit.

How does this apply to Sir Mick? He is the Stones and mostly just sings.

No. Keith and Charlie ARE the stones.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Ginger was born a crmudgeon. He's a totally unique player and I respect and even dig his playing, but I'm happy to NOT know him personally. A lot of what he says is bullshit. He believes it to be true, a lot like the bozos here who talk political shit.




No. Keith and Charlie ARE the stones.

So maybe they should just hire Adam Lambert to take Mick's place. He would work a lot cheaper.

 

[Not Normal]

So maybe they should just hire Adam Lambert to take Mick's place. He would work a lot cheaper.

It matters not, at this point. BUT the stones would never have been the Stones without the swagger of the rhythm section. Keith was the creative driver after Brian Jones' departure. Keith and Charlie have a very unique way of interacting musically.

The biggest issue with the Rolling Stones is that they cannot turn it on and off like a spigot. That is why they have made many great records, but are not really a great live band.

 

[RjThoughts]

Rock and roll is subjective. Look, Nirvana was voted into the Hall of Fame BEFORE Rush! Seriously, before one of the most influential bands in R&R history!

White Room

 

[Not Normal]

Rock and roll is subjective. Look, Nirvana was voted into the Hall of Fame BEFORE Rush! Seriously, before one of the most influential bands in R&R history!

White Room

I love both bands, and each are significant.

 

[RjThoughts]

I love both bands, and each are significant.

I'm in my late 40s, was around for Rush's ascension in the rock world. I believe that, without Rush, there would be no Nirvana showing them that you can infuse multi-meaning lyrics with good music.

 

[bluegypsy]

Ginger Baker is probably the pissiest old fart in Rock and Roll.

I saw that movie, I figured he was still in South Africa. Guess not.

I hope the interviewer got "combat pay" for having to talk to that drunk old bastard.

He may be a pissy old fart, but he makes for a great documentary subject. I was totally hooked in the first three minutes of that film.

http://youtu.be/W5seWMYG9kk

 

[pointless]

And Jack Bruce is about the second pissiest. Notice who is still going strong. (EC).

yes, the racist, wife stealing, watered down blues playing cunt.