Getting your work stolen

[naughtygaywriter]

https://www.amazon.com/Tiny-Tight-Entrances-Straight-Collection-ebook/dp/B09CTZHM3Z/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&qid=1630342059&refinements=p_27%3ADicky+Storm&s=digital-text&sr=1-2

Dicky Storm is the name of the "author" and he released another book of Gay erotica that has other people's stuff in it.

From what I'm gathering on here is to stop posting on this site anything I don't want stolen and having to go through this hassle. Doing some more research into the matter, regardless if I posted for free or not, I do own the implicit copyright and I could sue for any monies made off my work. Its just a matter of whether its is worth it.

I'll have to make the decision on whether or not to keep what I have on this site or remove them from here and leave them on my own site.

Thanks all for your input.

 

[RejectReality]

If anyone can read it, someone can steal it, no matter where it is. The more people who can read it, the more likely it is someone will steal it.

Leaving it on your site only may limit the chances someone will steal it, but it's directly proportional to the number of people who will read it.

While you may be more likely to get stolen from here, you're also more likely to have someone who reads you discover it and report it to you. Or, someone else will discover they've been stolen from and report it here as you have, which will lead you to your own stolen work.

But only if you're here to read the report.

You have to decide whether your desire to avoid thieves outweighs your desire to be read.

https://www.amazon.com/Tiny-Tight-Entrances-Straight-Collection-ebook/dp/B09CTZHM3Z/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&qid=1630342059&refinements=p_27%3ADicky+Storm&s=digital-text&sr=1-2

Dicky Storm is the name of the "author" and he released another book of Gay erotica that has other people's stuff in it.

From what I'm gathering on here is to stop posting on this site anything I don't want stolen and having to go through this hassle. Doing some more research into the matter, regardless if I posted for free or not, I do own the implicit copyright and I could sue for any monies made off my work. Its just a matter of whether its is worth it.

I'll have to make the decision on whether or not to keep what I have on this site or remove them from here and leave them on my own site.

Thanks all for your input.

 

[KeithD]

I do own the implicit copyright and I could sue for any monies made off my work. Its just a matter of whether its is worth it.

Well, no, not in the United States, unless you formally registered a copyright on it. You can't get a court date. You can't sue in U.S. court without holding a formal copyright. That's the basic point here.

 

[KeithD]

Dicky Storm is the name of the "author" and he released another book of Gay erotica that has other people's stuff in it.

Yes, all of the stories provided as samples in the Amazon listing for that book are stories of mine, posted to Literotica.

I have a publisher, so I'll turn it over to him. All of those stories are already at Amazon under one of my names, so I've already made money off of them and it won't be hard to convince Amazon who had them first--the first one who published them at Amazon.

 

[RejectReality]

Link is coming up dead for me. If it actually went somewhere previously, Amazon has already killed it.

 

[XerXesXu]

By those with fewer scruples than us, this thread could read as instructions on how to succeed and profit from piracy, at no economic risk to oneself.

What are the downsides for pirates? If you report an offence (and there is usually a criminal offence involved) to your police, what do you think they’d do? Has anyone tried it?

 

[RejectReality]

By those with fewer scruples than us, this thread could read as instructions on how to succeed and profit from piracy, at no economic risk to oneself.

What are the downsides for pirates? If you report an offence (and there is usually a criminal offence involved) to your police, what do you think they’d do? Has anyone tried it?

Report porn theft to the local police when the thief is likely in another jurisdiction, if not another country? Even the smallest, sleepiest town likely has a couple of meth heads or domestic abusers that are way more important than someone horking a jerk-off story.

Even the few seconds of their time you waste while they stare at you in stunned disbelief is too much. You're more likely to get put on a watch list than anything else.

 

[XerXesXu]

Report porn theft to the local police when the thief is likely in another jurisdiction, if not another country? Even the smallest, sleepiest town likely has a couple of meth heads or domestic abusers that are way more important than someone horking a jerk-off story.

Even the few seconds of their time you waste while they stare at you in stunned disbelief is too much. You're more likely to get put on a watch list than anything else.

I have no idea where you live. Don't suppose that if you report theft of large sums of money to the police they'll remain inactive because they have other mundane duties. In well policed jurisdictions the police are policed, and there are penalties for inactivity. They may not proceed far, but they'll proceed far enough for the pirate to know he's wanted for interview under caution, and may be extradited to another jurisdiction, even country, for trial, and possible imprisonment.

 

[RejectReality]

I have no idea where you live. Don't suppose that if you report theft of large sums of money to the police they'll remain inactive because they have other mundane duties. In well policed jurisdictions the police are policed, and there are penalties for inactivity. They may not proceed far, but they'll proceed far enough for the pirate to know he's wanted for interview under caution, and may be extradited to another jurisdiction, even country, for trial, and possible imprisonment.

You're going to be unlikely to be able to show that the thief made even one thin dime off your work, which was stolen from a site where you posted it for free. It's intellectual property. It's dealt with in the courts, not the police station.

I'm sorry, but this is absurd even if you take porn out of the equation.

 

[XerXesXu]

You're going to be unlikely to be able to show that the thief made even one thin dime off your work, which was stolen from a site where you posted it for free. It's intellectual property. It's dealt with in the courts, not the police station.

I'm sorry, but this is absurd even if you take porn out of the equation.

I am a British citizen. By virtue of my nationality I have the benefit of UK copyright law which creates criminal offences for breach of copyright, either economic or moral rights. Let's assume you live in the USA. The criminal law in USA also protects these rights by creating similar criminal offences. These offences were created by the respective legislatures to protect their citizens. Have you ever discussed with your local police chief where he gets a waiver of the law in respect of crimes committed against you?

You'll probably find that he's more than happy to pursue the matter, rather than explain to higher authorities why he believes her doesn't have to investigate crime.

 

[Bramblethorn]

You're going to be unlikely to be able to show that the thief made even one thin dime off your work, which was stolen from a site where you posted it for free. It's intellectual property. It's dealt with in the courts, not the police station.

I'm sorry, but this is absurd even if you take porn out of the equation.

All this, and:

"Very well, sir. Can you tell me who stole your, ah, pornographic epic?"

"Yes, officer. Her name is SexySadie69."

"Ah. And do you know where she lives?"

"Either Number 49 or Number 45 Aisleby Avenue."

"How do you figure that, sir?"

"Well, I live at Number 47, and her author profile says she's 'the girl next door'."

"I see. Don't call us, sir, we'll call you."

Even if the police were to subpoena Amazon for the contact info on that profile (which they won't) and even if the thief is based in a cooperative distribution (why on earth would they be?), those details will undoubtedly be fake. Good luck chasing it up.

 

[LAHomedog]

This is an anonymous forum. Anybody can make whatever claims they want about themselves. This is why I posted links to the actual law - the one that severely limits your remedies for an unregistered work - rather than appealing to an authority nobody here can verify.

Oh my God, you're right! You busted me. Caught in my masquerade! I'm really 18, reading stories with one hand, and pretending to be older than my years. Fuck! And you're right twice. I don't have a wife. She's just a fantasy I've been buying jewelry for all these years. Darn the luck.

Good think your mom let you out of the house to play today so you could catch me on this and clean it up for everybody. Whew! The AH is a safer place for your efforts. And I'm glad to see you have become a renown expert on American copyright law, a subject that many dedicate their lives to getting to know every rules, wrinkle, and nuance. Are you also a rocket scientist and working on the cure for COVID next? Damn.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Oh my God, you're right! You busted me. Caught in my masquerade! I'm really 18, reading stories with one hand, and pretending to be older than my years. Fuck! And you're right twice. I don't have a wife. She's just a fantasy I've been buying jewelry for all these years. Darn the luck.

Good think your mom let you out of the house to play today so you could catch me on this and clean it up for everybody. Whew! The AH is a safer place for your efforts. And I'm glad to see you have become a renown expert on American copyright law, a subject that many dedicate their lives to getting to know every rules, wrinkle, and nuance. Are you also a rocket scientist and working on the cure for COVID next? Damn.

I don't pretend to be an expert on copyright law. The point of posting links to the relevant statute is that my personal credentials don't matter. People can go read those laws for themselves, no need to trust me.

Of course, the law is a complicated beast and sometimes it doesn't mean what a literal reading suggests it might. If you believe I'm wrong, and that 412 "Registration as prerequisite to certain remedies for infringement" does not in fact have the effect of making registration a prerequisite to certain remedies for infringement... well, your hotshot lawyer wife should be able to provide you with citations that you can post here to support your position.

Can you provide even a single example where somebody managed to get a good outcome in suing for copyright violation on an unregistered story?

 

[LAHomedog]

I don't pretend to be an expert on copyright law. The point of posting links to the relevant statute is that my personal credentials don't matter. People can go read those laws for themselves, no need to trust me.

Of course, the law is a complicated beast and sometimes it doesn't mean what a literal reading suggests it might. If you believe I'm wrong, and that 412 "Registration as prerequisite to certain remedies for infringement" does not in fact have the effect of making registration a prerequisite to certain remedies for infringement... well, your hotshot lawyer wife should be able to provide you with citations that you can post here to support your position.

Can you provide even a single example where somebody managed to get a good outcome in suing for copyright violation on an unregistered story?

The simple fact of the matter dude is this was a conversation between you and me and you wrote a personal insult about my wife, and that is not okay with me. Hit me with anything you want that great. Let's play ball. Insult my wife and you can go eat shit and die.

Bad form dude. Stay away from the personal slurs of loved ones. Did I say, "Eat shit and die?" Just wondering...

 

[Bramblethorn]

The simple fact of the matter dude is this was a conversation between you and me and you wrote a personal insult about my wife, and that is not okay with me. Hit me with anything you want that great. Let's play ball. Insult my wife and you can go eat shit and die.

Bad form dude. Stay away from the personal slurs of loved ones. Did I say, "Eat shit and die?" Just wondering...

I didn't insult your wife at all.* Rather, I pointed out that her being an IP expert doesn't automatically make you one, and that your appeal to authority doesn't carry much weight on forums like this.

Frankly, it feels like you're feigning offense here as a way to distract from the fact that you haven't been able to provide any kind of actual evidence to support your claims. I've got better things to do than continue arguing with that kind of bad-faith nonsense, so back on ignore you go.

*If anything, I'd be more inclined to offer her my condolences.

 

[jaF0]

What are the downsides for pirates? If you report an offence (and there is usually a criminal offence involved) to your police, what do you think they’d do? Has anyone tried it?

In a matter where you posted a nookie story on a free site and somebody copied it?

Either laugh your silly ass out the door or arrest you for 'waiting police time'.

 

[LAHomedog]

I didn't insult your wife at all.
Well you did. You say you're a writer. Maybe it's time to learn what your words and sentence constructions mean.

So back on ignore you go.
Be still my beating heart!

*If anything, I'd be more inclined to offer her my condolences.

Thanks! Maybe I can get her to return the diamonds! Let me try that, buddy.

 

[XerXesXu]

In a matter where you posted a nookie story on a free site and somebody copied it?

Either laugh your silly ass out the door or arrest you for 'waiting police time'.

That's what would happen to you, if you say so. That's not what would happen to me. I'm not as limp-wristed as some who have indulged too freely.

 

[Ada Stuart]

I'll have to make the decision on whether or not to keep what I have on this site or remove them from here and leave them on my own site.

I've kept mine on Lit. They have already been copied so if I need to take down an illegal copy I need the proof that I published it first. Amazon always asks for a link to the original.

I would think the same goes if you post them on your own site. They can still be stolen.

But, leaving them on Lit, also gives you free marketing among the readers. So, if you publish new stories on Amazon you can point your readers in the right direction on your profile.

Another thing you can do is to expand or edit the stolen stories, and then post the new version on Amazon. They won't always accept it but there are plenty of other sites that will. Still, publishing a story that was previously stolen from you, does feel great though

Still, despite the risk of stories getting stolen, Lit is a great place to find new readers, try out a new concept and generally just receive useful feedback. When I publish elsewhere I don't get a fraction of all the feedback that I get here

 

[oggbashan]

To find my stolen stories I just look for "copyright oggbashan". The lazy bums don't even take my copyright message off!

But to be fair, many of the sites just have a link back to Literotica. But discounting them, my work has been stolen hundreds of times.

 

[Rustyoznail]

The movie and music industries have spent millions playing whack a pirate with little success. You can either tie yourself in knots chasing phantoms through the courts, do what you can with Amazon or wherever else it’s gone up, or accept that theft will happen and there’s very little you can realistically do to prevent it.

Good luck with your choice.

 

[MillieDynamite]

I had a story stolen, published with my name and another writers name on Amazon. Once I reported it, they did an investigation, and all the woman's stories were pulled down. I never got any cut from the sales. The bitch didn't change the title, didn't add a key stroke other than adding her name, it wasn't published on any other site other than amazon and SOL. I never tried to publish the thing on Amazon because it was a rape story. How it made it by the censor is a mystery to me.

I had a several works published on another free sites, they gave me credit; however, they had stolen them from other sties. When I asked for the stories to be taken down, the guy responded, "No, I like the story and want my readers to read it. So, sue me.

 

[SimonDoom]

Sometimes I feel a little bad because there is a rock band with the name Simon Doom. I didn't know that when I registered my account here and started publishing stories. I'd never heard of them, and it never occurred to me that anyone else would use that name for anything. It was a random, silly name choice. Out of a desire to avoid any confusion I don't use the name outside the scope of this website.

 

[RelentlessOnanism]

Since all my stories are incest-related, and Amazon don't seem to like that topic, I suspect it's unlikely anyone would nick any of my stories. Although I’m probably jinxing it now, by saying that.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Sometimes I feel a little bad because there is a rock band with the name Simon Doom. I didn't know that when I registered my account here and started publishing stories. I'd never heard of them, and it never occurred to me that anyone else would use that name for anything. It was a random, silly name choice. Out of a desire to avoid any confusion I don't use the name outside the scope of this website.

Suzie tapped her toe to the beat. "Pretty cool licks, bro, but I didn't know you were so young. How'd you do that?"