Getting Sober

[buxxxom]

Keeping you in my thoughts, haldir, and sending wishes of strength along the way.

 

[carsonshepherd]

You're not alone and you don't have to do this alone. Let people help - a complete stranger at AA cares about you and has been where you are - let someone help. Peace, friend.

 

[Shakti_Dreamer]

It is quite probably the most difficult thing in the world: to slay addiction. I wish you love and strength. And, remember, whatever you feel, allow yourself to feel it.

 

[rengadeirishman]

good luck man, while i havent tried quitting drinking, i quit a mess of stuff that was going to kill me. I know how hard it can be, but I'm sure that if your honest with yourself you can do it.

 

[SemiColon]

Hey- there must be something in the air this week! My husband has decided to get sober! Nothing like a little liver ailment to wake you up.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Who the fuck are you fooling?

Most drunks walk away from booze when it finally kicks their ass and they believe theyre gonna die....or all their alcoholic friends are dead.

 

[Recidiva]

Who the fuck are you fooling?

Most drunks walk away from booze when it finally kicks their ass and they believe theyre gonna die....or all their alcoholic friends are dead.

Well. That was inspirational.

Did you bring donuts at least?

 

[neonlyte]

No doubt lots of you will think I have some nerve starting this thread - but I don't think there is a better time to do this.

I have been trying to get clean for almost a year and I am finding it increasingly hard.

The first three months were soooo easy. Then I slipped. Felt bad, beat myself up - but climbed back on the wagon.

Then came xmas - decided that I'd done so well thatbI deserved some time off.

NIGHTMARE CITY!

I had my kids coming to stay and I had fallen and had a face like Mr Tyson had played with it for a while.

This is when I started to lie again. Needed my kids to stay so told them about the fall but left the booze out.

xmas was great but the evil worm was well established.

Since then I have done OK but about once a month I have let it all go to shit.

Today I woke up, unable to remember anything after lunchtime yesterday and I have decided that I don't want to do this any more.

Lots of excuses for why I lose it - major work stress (I am self employed), ex being difficult etc etc etc, But the bottom line is that I chose to be a drunk.

But today I finally chose not to be a drunk anymore.

Wish me luck my friends.

Good Luck, indeed. Get yourself a Lit posse, people you can contact if the urge comes on... add me to the list - I don't mean for going out boozing

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

RECIDIVA

Drunks play all the lets get sober games until they truly believe theyre goners, or there's no one from the old gang left to play with.

You'd be stunned at the number of alcoholics who stop drinking, cold turkey, no AA, when the doc sez: "Youre dead, Bunky." They dont have relapses, they dont go to meetings. they deal with their DTs and pray to Jesus for one more day of life.

 

[Recidiva]

RECIDIVA

Drunks play all the lets get sober games until they truly believe theyre goners, or there's no one from the old gang left to play with.

You'd be stunned at the number of alcoholics who stop drinking, cold turkey, no AA, when the doc sez: "Youre dead, Bunky." They dont have relapses, they dont go to meetings. they deal with their DTs and pray to Jesus for one more day of life.

Just about every member of one side of my family are alcoholics. And my work involves the success rate of rehab clinics.

I really wouldn't be stunned by much of anything on the subject.

I do however think that cynicism is easy. Lowest common denominator is always going to be the best bet statistically, but it's useless when you want positive results.

He's asking for help to get a positive result. It's possible. You're just trying to drag the tone down so you can be right mathematically, without taking into account there are higher denominators that aren't as common.

 

[SemiColon]

RECIDIVA

Drunks play all the lets get sober games until they truly believe theyre goners, or there's no one from the old gang left to play with.

You'd be stunned at the number of alcoholics who stop drinking, cold turkey, no AA, when the doc sez: "Youre dead, Bunky." They dont have relapses, they dont go to meetings. they deal with their DTs and pray to Jesus for one more day of life.

But are they happy? I spent years going to meetings because to me it was not about not drinking so much as getting better, reaching a happier place. My husband, however, falls into your camp. He's not looking for a spiritual experience, he's just looking to live.

I'm not sure if one is better than the other.

 

[matriarch]

To my gentle giant........

You can do this my friend.
If you want it bad enough, you will do it.

But, like the others have already said, don't try to do it on your own. Get down to your local AA, go see your doc.

Sending you auntie hugs and as much strength as I can muster.

Mat

 

[matriarch]

Well. That was inspirational.

Did you bring donuts at least?

Now you see why I have this arsehole on ignore.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Try not to kill anyone, driving to the meeting.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

RLreverie

Well, most people recognize they have problems, and take corrective action to change. Not so with alcoholics and drug addicts. They make their problem into a cult with rituals and secret handshakes and a liturgy of bullshit, but keep drinking or using.

 

[SemiColon]

SOrry you've had such bad experiences. maybe you'd feel better if you shared.

 

[CharleyH]

No doubt lots of you will think I have some nerve starting this thread - but I don't think there is a better time to do this.

I have been trying to get clean for almost a year and I am finding it increasingly hard.

The first three months were soooo easy. Then I slipped. Felt bad, beat myself up - but climbed back on the wagon.

Then came xmas - decided that I'd done so well thatbI deserved some time off.

NIGHTMARE CITY!

I had my kids coming to stay and I had fallen and had a face like Mr Tyson had played with it for a while.

This is when I started to lie again. Needed my kids to stay so told them about the fall but left the booze out.

xmas was great but the evil worm was well established.

Since then I have done OK but about once a month I have let it all go to shit.

Today I woke up, unable to remember anything after lunchtime yesterday and I have decided that I don't want to do this any more.

Lots of excuses for why I lose it - major work stress (I am self employed), ex being difficult etc etc etc, But the bottom line is that I chose to be a drunk.

But today I finally chose not to be a drunk anymore.

Wish me luck my friends.

There are groups for your kind in Canada, not sure if the same groups exist in the US. Here's the thing friend. Posting on sites like this will only make you drink more - seriously, Amicus can drive you to drink! Best to you, though. Truly.

 

[Belegon]

Strength to you Haldir! You can do this... You can.

 

[sethp]

No doubt lots of you will think I have some nerve starting this thread - but I don't think there is a better time to do this.

I have been trying to get clean for almost a year and I am finding it increasingly hard.

The first three months were soooo easy. Then I slipped. Felt bad, beat myself up - but climbed back on the wagon.

Then came xmas - decided that I'd done so well thatbI deserved some time off.

NIGHTMARE CITY!

I had my kids coming to stay and I had fallen and had a face like Mr Tyson had played with it for a while.

This is when I started to lie again. Needed my kids to stay so told them about the fall but left the booze out.

xmas was great but the evil worm was well established.

Since then I have done OK but about once a month I have let it all go to shit.

Today I woke up, unable to remember anything after lunchtime yesterday and I have decided that I don't want to do this any more.

Lots of excuses for why I lose it - major work stress (I am self employed), ex being difficult etc etc etc, But the bottom line is that I chose to be a drunk.

But today I finally chose not to be a drunk anymore.

Wish me luck my friends.

You don't need luck you need AA. and do the following. look up AA online and call a local chapter and find a meeting. Go to a meeting as often as you can ..especially at first like 4-5 times a week if possible, Buy an AA big book and just start reading it. Then no matter what don't drink and ..well you can't get high either. ...then start cleaning up at the AA meeting ..after it's over ..YOU sweep the floor and clean the coffee machine.

PM me if you need more info.

 

[Guest]

RLreverie

Well, most people recognize they have problems, and take corrective action to change. Not so with alcoholics and drug addicts. They make their problem into a cult with rituals and secret handshakes and a liturgy of bullshit, but keep drinking or using.

YOu know this from experience, I see.

Just as there are all kinds of sober people, from miserable bastards like yourself to someone like Sweetwitch, there are all kinds of addicts/alcoholics.

I saw I was going to die, but had not even come close to my physical limitations (i'e. liverfailure, etc.).

I used 12 steps. And now live a full and successful life without them.

I'm sorry whomenver it was hurt you so, James. Perhaps some counselling might help, or one of the partner12-step programs.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Naaah. I just dont like alcoholics. I mean, who does?

 

[Guest]

Naaah. I just dont like alcoholics. I mean, who does?

Nahhhh - not gonna ask.

******

Good luck, Haldir.

Your own strength and desire is the keystone. But the strongest fortress is built with love and friendship.

Lean on others until you are strong enough to be leaned on.

Forgive yourself.

 

[sethp]

Naaah. I just dont like alcoholics. I mean, who does?

Lot's of alchoholics/drug addicts stop and change and never drink or use again. Nobody likes an asshole drunk ...that's true. But there are enough people who change

now what's all this about crazy rituals and secret handshakes? saying a couple of prayers and a few sayings and being discreet is never a bad thing..and there is nothing wrong with the 12 steps.

 

[Guest]

Lot's of alchoholics/drug addicts stop and change and never drink or use again. Nobody likes an asshole drunk ...that's true. But there are enough people who change

now what's all this about crazy rituals and secret handshakes? saying a couple of prayers and a few sayings and being discreet is never a bad thing..and there is nothing wrong with the 12 steps.

I have seen many in the program who replaced their drugs/alcohol with the program.

20 years sober/clean and the same F*$#ed up asshole they were as when they came in.

I have seen program Nazis tell someone they weren't "clean" because of medication a doctor specializing in addictions perscribed them.

The program itself was a wonderful idea. Just like Christianity. It just has fallen to the same pitfalls as anything else - it's run but people.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

AA always requires someone to be 'it.' Alcoholics are fundamentally self righteous and sanctimonious personalities; theyre either in the gutter or in the pulpit. Relapses are the dues they pay to AA.