getting parents to have sex with their kids is hard.

[killallhippies]

i really should've experimented with a brother/sister story. why won't he just fuck his daughter? can't he see she wants him too!?!? FUCK!

 

[killallhippies]

looking in this thread won't make you hump your children. pinky swear.

 

[logophile]

It's interesting because incest stories don't appeal to me at ALL! BUt one of the things I've always wondered is how you get a parent in bed with one of their children. As a mother of three, I have no idea how you could write that believably. The only thing I've come up with is a period of separation between the raising of said child and the seducing of same. Got no other ideas... Sorry!

 

[lucky-E-leven]

Quite often it's not hard enough.

 

[killallhippies]

It's interesting because incest stories don't appeal to me at ALL! BUt one of the things I've always wondered is how you get a parent in bed with one of their children. As a mother of three, I have no idea how you could write that believably. The only thing I've come up with is a period of separation between the raising of said child and the seducing of same. Got no other ideas... Sorry!

the challenge of writing a believable story that didn't involve rape was the whole reason i decided to write the story. it's turning out to be a major pain in the ass.

 

[lucky-E-leven]

the challenge of writing a believable story that didn't involve rape was the whole reason i decided to write the story. it's turning out to be a major pain in the ass.

I'm all for a challenge, however, I feel that the quality of a story in a genre that repulses me would be very low.

How do you do it? Remove yourself from the subject matter, that is. Unless it is an interest for you, in which case, what's the problem?

~lucky

 

[killallhippies]

I'm all for a challenge, however, I feel that the quality of a story in a genre that repulses me would be very low.

How do you do it? Remove yourself from the subject matter, that is. Unless it is an interest for you, in which case, what's the problem?

~lucky

the problem is believability. i have no problem with incest stories, but i feel they lack realism. the appeal of incest stories isn't in the taboo itself. it's in the overcoming of the taboo. that's the hard part.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

This is why I would have trouble writing an incest story, were I to attempt it.

In my story, the first thing the victim would do, once s/he realized s/he was about to be attacked by a child molester, would be to wet the bed.

No matter how well a writer can portray the victimization of a minor by a predatory adult as erotic, once you arrive at the scene where that adult is lying in a cold, wet, smelly, urine-soaked bed, the action is just not going to come anywhere near the upper half of most people’s fantasy to-do list.

 

[killallhippies]

This is why I would have trouble writing an incest story, were I to attempt it.

In my story, the first thing the victim would do, once s/he realized s/he was about to be attacked by a child molester, would be to wet the bed.

No matter how well a writer can portray the victimization of a minor by a predatory adult as erotic, once you arrive at the scene where that adult is lying in a cold, wet, smelly, urine-soaked bed, the action is just not going to come anywhere near the upper half of most people’s fantasy to-do list.

well, this story doesn't involve minors or rape. rape would be easier to write, but much more unappealing to me.

 

[lucky-E-leven]

the problem is believability. i have no problem with incest stories, but i feel they lack realism. the appeal of incest stories isn't in the taboo itself. it's in the overcoming of the taboo. that's the hard part.

I think the problem is maintaining the taboo while pulling out non-consent and minors. I would guess for most people, the taboo is nearly non-existent when you're talking about two, of age, consenting sisters or a brother and sister. I'd probably wonder why and think it was out of the norm, but in the end I'd probably just chalk it up to two people doing what they wanted to do.

I can't, off the top of my head, think of any way to make a father/daughter, mother/son, grandparent/grandchild story believable at all.

~lucky

 

[thebullet]

I can't, off the top of my head, think of any way to make a father/daughter, mother/son, grandparent/grandchild story believable at all.

You've got it, Lucky. The whole concept is totally repulsive to me. A parent holds a position of power/authority over a child he/she has raised. Regardless of how one looks at it, there would be a flavor of rape to it.

The Incest/Taboo section of Literotica is one place where I just never venture.

I actually alluded to incest in one of my stories, where the daughters had reached sexual maturity but had no available male partners other than their father. But the father would have nothing to do with the concept. That was me speakin' there, I guess.

 

[gauchecritic]

You've got it, Lucky. The whole concept is totally repulsive to me. A parent holds a position of power/authority over a child he/she has raised. Regardless of how one looks at it, there would be a flavor of rape to it.

Wrong ends of sticks.

Power/authority is what any and all sex is all about. A 'well written' story will, by accident or design, bring out the tension/conflict in any sexual liaison.

It's been said many times here at Lit that to write an incest story you just need to change the names to 'mom' and 'son'.

Whilst this isn't strictly true, it does point up the angle that any story is about conflict and tension. The incest category gives a much easier handle with which to name that tension.

I think the problem you're having Kill is that you're mired in the relationship instead of the sexual relationship. So now we come to Freud. (and Heinlein too)

Parents, children and siblings all (apparently) have a sexual interest in each other, it's society that forbids it (not biology).

So therein lies your tension, your conflict and eventually your growth and resolution.

It seems your respondents so far are also mired in the forced sex incest which inevitably comes from beliefs about child sex.

Think on. The story isn't about paedeophilia or rape (from your description) it's about a father who can't come to terms with his own morality.

Get him drunk, that usually works, or maybe consolation sex after his wife runs off with another woman. Try reading some others.

 

[thebullet]

Hey GC, I understand the concept of writing sexual material. I even could do it. I'm just so morally opposed to incest between parent and child that I refuse to write about it.

My mother was a beautiful woman. Really built, I might add. And I can honestly say that I never had one sexual thought about her growing up.

As for my own kids! Geez, We are here to protect our children, build a cocoon of comfort and safety around them until they are ready to emerge into the world full grown, confident and happy. I think incest would punch a hole into that cocoon.

Sorry, I know it's not the pornographic way to feel. But it is the way I feel.

 

[logophile]

I was thinking about this while I was out picking up my new cat. I was trying to imagine writing an incest story about a father/daughter or mother/son. The only way I think I could do it would be to have it be an estranged parent who accidentally meets his/her child as an adult and doesn't find out the identity until after the deed. Or for real sexual tension, perhaps during the final seduction the peices start falling into place but both parties refuse to "see" what's happened. Anyway, good luck Kill!

 

[Monazwx]

Dude, you have to stop this.

You almost made me smile at this thread.

 

[she_is_my_addiction]

I've got an aunt/niece story in the works, with a little bit of mother/daughter and sister/sister thrown in. most of my stories (none of which I've posted yet) all take on kind of a dreamlike air. i guess in that sense they don't have to be particularly realistic. i don't have a problem with the incest/taboo category. while I'd never look at anyone in my own family and think that way, i have a mommy complex that always comes out during sex. i've gone so far as to call my partner mommy. i don't have a problem with it.

 

[killallhippies]

Wrong ends of sticks.

Power/authority is what any and all sex is all about. A 'well written' story will, by accident or design, bring out the tension/conflict in any sexual liaison.

It's been said many times here at Lit that to write an incest story you just need to change the names to 'mom' and 'son'.

Whilst this isn't strictly true, it does point up the angle that any story is about conflict and tension. The incest category gives a much easier handle with which to name that tension.

I think the problem you're having Kill is that you're mired in the relationship instead of the sexual relationship. So now we come to Freud. (and Heinlein too)

Parents, children and siblings all (apparently) have a sexual interest in each other, it's society that forbids it (not biology).

So therein lies your tension, your conflict and eventually your growth and resolution.

It seems your respondents so far are also mired in the forced sex incest which inevitably comes from beliefs about child sex.

Think on. The story isn't about paedeophilia or rape (from your description) it's about a father who can't come to terms with his own morality.

Get him drunk, that usually works, or maybe consolation sex after his wife runs off with another woman. Try reading some others.

he already is drunk in the story. i went with a bit of role reversal. the father has lost control of his life and the daughter has, in a way, taken over the role of the adult. both are obviously interested in each other in the story, but the father still has hang ups, but isn't voicing them. i'm almost up to the point where i get them together.

my real problem is holes in the story, but i think i can fill them up after i finish the basic story. i just hope it will work when i'm through.

thanks for the advice.

 

[LorriLove]

Wrong ends of sticks.

Power/authority is what any and all sex is all about. A 'well written' story will, by accident or design, bring out the tension/conflict in any sexual liaison.

It's been said many times here at Lit that to write an incest story you just need to change the names to 'mom' and 'son'.

Whilst this isn't strictly true, it does point up the angle that any story is about conflict and tension. The incest category gives a much easier handle with which to name that tension.

I think the problem you're having Kill is that you're mired in the relationship instead of the sexual relationship. So now we come to Freud. (and Heinlein too)

Parents, children and siblings all (apparently) have a sexual interest in each other, it's society that forbids it (not biology).

So therein lies your tension, your conflict and eventually your growth and resolution.

It seems your respondents so far are also mired in the forced sex incest which inevitably comes from beliefs about child sex.

Think on. The story isn't about paedeophilia or rape (from your description) it's about a father who can't come to terms with his own morality.

Get him drunk, that usually works, or maybe consolation sex after his wife runs off with another woman. Try reading some others.

gauche has got it in one... well lots of bits of one... forget the child sex thing, forget rape, that's not what killa is on about... forget the separation and reunion that's too predictable and false.

how about a 45 yr old reasonably attractive and well looked after woman with some very interesting kinky streaks about her... into swinging with hubby maybe... introduce her 21 yr old son, a handsome lad with a very open mind... bring in the bit about son seeing mother behaving very openly with men other than daddy... add some building sensual and sexual chemistry in the home... mix in a family party with plenty of alcohol and a very drunken mother being escorted up to bed by her half drunk son... stir it all up with a big spoon and they might fuck each other's brains out... up to you where it goes after than... shame and mistrust... or an everlasting lust story don't try and make it a love story though, that's the nightmare to write, make it what it is, a lust story... people don't make love to their own i don't think, they fuck them cos it's dirty.

no!!! before you start pm's off, this isn't my story above, yes i'm 45, yes i have a 21 yr old son, but no!! i don't shag him and i doubt i ever will... just telling you what kind of scenario is possible without raping little kids.

 

[fogbank]

Yeah, I tried an incest story and posted the first chapter, but I've pretty much given up trying to finish it, despite lots of positive feedback. It's easy to conceive of a bit of incestual voyeurism (that's as far as mine got), but it's a really hard thing to move forward. I'll admit I enjoy reading through some of the incest stories, but I've yet to find any that are entirely believable. I guess the thing that you have to do is admit that you're writing an emotional fairy-tale: something where the same taboos and social conceptions exist, but where protagonists are slightly different, either stronger (if you believe that going against a strong social taboo requires strength) or weaker (if you believe that incest is really about giving in to relatively common desires). As you say yourself, the appeal is overcoming the taboo.

In retrospect, since that's inevitably the focus and the excitement of any taboo-based story, maybe that should be the first thing a writer does--come up with an idea for how a character can overcome a taboo, and write the whole story based around that.

 

[fifty5]

i really should've experimented with a brother/sister story. why won't he just fuck his daughter? can't he see she wants him too!?!? FUCK!

Almost all erotic stories require a degree of willing suspension of disbelief. That's probably true, I think, of the author as well as the reader. Try to concentrate on the believable aspects: almost all older males fancy younger women - they have desireable young bodies! Maybe not fact, but it's believable (if only by older males) that young women desire older, more experienced, more skillful males - especially if males of their own age group are unavailable, or those that are available are unattractive for some reason.

Dad and daughter is taboo, but think about it in terms of meeting the archetypes of older male, younger female, rather than in terms of 'fruit of my own loins' - and in terms of 'dirty is desireable' (lots of stories propose that hypothesis!)

The reality is as digusting to me as to most, but if you want to write that story, then it's a matter of concentrating on the believable aspects, which do exist.

Just my take on a writing challenge...

(NB My own single story involves 2 sisters, but my real take on that was the guy who fancied them both and got them both in the same session. It was Lit that reclassified that from 'Group Sex' to 'Incest/Taboo'.)

 

[SlickTony]

Get him drunk, that usually works

It's supposed to--says so in the Bible. Although I've always had my doubts. One of my earlier efforts was a send-up of Gen. 19. The second story in the two-parter has an H rating, so some folks must've thought it worked.

 

[nushu2]

You could write a story where they don't have sex, just lots of tension. Better have a thick skin for the feedback, if you do.

That's what I'm planning on. My working title is "The Greatest Story Never Told". It's about the writer who didn't write it.

 

[SlickTony]

Better have a thick skin for the feedback, if you do.

Oh my yes. Worst pan I got, fairly early on, was for a story that had only 2 money shots. And them from masturbation, yet.

 

[BlackShanglan]

Agreed, Tony. My worst voted is the one that lacks a specific, detailed sex scene. There are references, but no "scene" per se. Pity, because I rather like it.

Shanglan

(Edited to add: You ought to see who I'm trying to get to have sex. It's already thirty pages, single-spaced, 12-point font just to get to the first sex scene, and I've just realized that I'm going to have to move it back again. Botheration. Characters are so bloody difficult when one asks them to undermine the moral and metaphysical foundations of their universes.)

 

[killallhippies]

i'm just going to start over from page one. i think i'm trying to build it up too much and it just isn't working. i'm going with a more direct approach. booze or drugs, yo. booze and drugs.