Getting Along

[HandsInTheDark]

It's got to suck being a mod on Literotica. Especially in AH.

Since moderation started, it's gotten unusual for a topical thread to not lose a few posts. Thread closing isn't uncommon (which is annoying, because sometimes the threads haven't run out of legitimate material). Of all the forums on all the topics I've ever been part of (quite a number over the years, dating back to usenet newsgroups), this place is the worst. (Note: I don't do political boards, which I'm sure would eat this place alive in terms of hostility.)

As far as I know (or care), everyone here is anonymous, and strangers to each other. Some of you have clearly gathered information on each other but as far as I can tell it's for malicious use only. Maybe some of you are friends behind the scenes (and there's ongoing rumor of those friendships spanning voting blocks).

Me, I'm something of a vulcan. I care about topics, not getting up people's asses. I'll debate a point of sociology, sexuality or ethics until the cows come home, but I have to be pissed off beyond belief to single anyone out, let alone make a personal attack. I'd have to care about the individual's opinion to make anything personal, and I don't care about any of you that much, seeing as I don't know you and consider you all anonymous and unknowable.

I have no idea why you don't all view each other this was as well. But some of you definitely don't.

Usually (sociology time) when people online fight, it's to gain "social territory". You want esteem that someone else appears to have (or might rise up and take from you). So you try to diminish their territory by undermining their reputation or turning people against them. The point of enlarged social territory is generally to find better mates, but I think most of you already have mates or are past the age where you want one, so I don't think you're all a bunch of monkeys flinging shit at each other to compete for sex. So what are you competing for? I dunno. It's a forum. There's nothing to win here. Or lose. Social territory can't be it.

So maybe it's just personalities (psychology time). You get enough Borderline Personality Disorder people in the same space and fireworks start even if there is nothing to fight about. I'm not a doctor and I don't know enough about any of you to make a diagnosis anyway. (That said, I can think of at least three folk here who I think should get evaluated.) So maybe this is it? Unstable personalities? Best theory I have at the moment. Haters gonna hate.

So how do we deal with the hate? I've been a big proponent of Ignoring people. My idea was that people were doing the social territory thing and if you just refused to interact with them they'd eventually leave you alone. But it doesn't work. When I abandoned AH, someone here found me in another forum, not a common one, and launched into unprovoked attacks, seizing on an absurd pretext.. Best I can figure is he's routinely checking for my posts and looking for openings to harass. He's not, I think, the only one here who operates like that.

Bottom line, Ignore isn't going to work well because it's not that A and B don't get along. Instead, A wants to drive B away entirely, by telling C, D and E any lie that works. If C, D and E are gullible, or also threatened, you get an echo chamber, and mission accomplished.

I see some evidence of echo chamber in here.

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So what can we do? Most people, and certainly Laurel and the mods, would probably prefer fewer threads getting locked. (I'm assuming we're not all BPD and get a sick thrill from locking other people's threads.) How do we get some peace and quiet if some folk are just hostile and willing to lie to "win" at a competition no one else wants to play?

I don't have good ideas. But I'm guessing enough people would like some peace and quiet at this point that the combined brain trust here can come up with something. The Pollyanna solution is to get everyone to agree that there's nothing to fight over and there's nothing to feel threatened by, since we're generally all strangers and no one's opinion is all that critically important to us. Positions and ideas can be important, sure. Let's have bloodbaths over those. But impersonally.

Obvious suggestions are, collectively ask the mods to delete any post which names someone else in even the mildest of snide ways. Don't wait for it to escalate - make it clear that if you reference someone here individually, there better be candy and flowers to follow, or poof.

Or, ask the mods to consider short term bans for repeated offenses. Need to have your posts deleted three times in a week? Have a month off. Three months off in a year? Goodbye. (I know Lit has little incentive to infuriate prolific authors, but having the forums be cesspools isn't great for business either.)

I don't know what else to offer. Basically, I dunno what folk get so pissy about, and I've invited people to set Ignore on me if they don't like my opinions a dozen times. They don't, which means they want the conflict. I'll ask again: I promise you my feelings won't be hurt. (On AH I don't have feelings; or at least if you do something so extreme that I get angry, I'll take it to Laurel or my lawyer, as appropriate.)

So come up with stuff that will help. It's past time to fix this noise.

Mods: Since we all know this thread is going to be like blood in the water to certain people, I'd appreciate it if you didn't give them what they want by locking or deleting the thread. Just kill posts. Maybe if this runs for awhile, something useful will emerge. I mean what the hell, worth a try...

 

[sr71plt]

I'm still scratching my head on the reappearance for a while today of a thread a couple of weeks old, but with today's times on it, that included posts that were cut out of it by the mod the first time it ran. It appears to be gone again now.

 

[Nathan_Brazil]

Heh!

Great thread BTW...

My guess: Social Territory. King of the hill seems to be very popular here. So many writers willing to fight over page views, nominal prizes, and ratings... Its like a prison guard experiment gone wrong.

That said... I've met some people who are way fun! But sadly, they mostly send me private messages.

 

[NaokoSmith]

OK, I'm actually going to give this a serious answer - although as OP said he was putting me on Ignore, he may not get to read this.

Many of us are actual real friends in Real Life. I have been posting on here now for about three or four years. At first I posted hesitantly. Over time I got to know some of the writers who post here well.

Some turned out not to be good friends. Just like happens in Real Life.

Others have supported me through a terrible time, when I had to decide that my relationship was over. They helped me figure out that what would be best for Piglet and me. They sent me actual real stuff I needed (like that beautiful jardinière - I really needed that to make my life complete ), and made offers of practical help. They supported me and gave me good advice when I had to take out a grievance at work. They celebrated with me when I found a good home for Piglet, me and the pussies, and when I managed to get enough teaching contracts for us to get by. They give me recipes and tips on how to weatherproof my coat again.

I did not get to know them by telling them a lot of stuff they already know and showing off how clever I am. (Although I sometimes do do that, cuz what's the point of a PhD if you can't show off all your expert learning sometimes?) I got to know them by posting most days, a little 'hullo', 'how are you'. By listening to them, saying how I felt for them if they suffered a bereavement or a setback in life, posting a rose, posting a picture of a cup of tea or a glass of champagne if we had cause to celebrate.

There are a few people on here who make a lot of noise and make it look like it's full of trolls here.

Actually it's full of fun people who post jokes in More Humour, who are a bit naughty in Misquotes, who enjoy a cup of tea and a cake (no calories in virtual cake) in the chatty threads.

Best of all, it's full of smart, witty, intelligent writers who are always willing to give you good advice about writing.

Kudos, chums. We have a good time on here and I learn a lot of new things all the time. (Like how to fill the wishy washy wiper bottle in my car - thank you for teaching me that.)

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm still scratching my head on the reappearance for a while today of a thread a couple of weeks old, but with today's times on it, that included posts that were cut out of it by the mod the first time it ran. It appears to be gone again now.

JBJ started a thread today that was closed because SJP jumped all over me on a casual remark, they proceeded to call me and TX Rad and you-although you weren't there-a sack of shit among other choice names.

They then accused us of driving women from this site at which point I asked the question of exactly who it was that drove Selena Kitt for here and how.

the mod at first closed the thread and said they were leaving all posts up there as an example of bad behavior, which would have really allowed people to see the real SJP and get people wondering. what did happen to Miss Kitt.

Then later on the thread was reopened and all posts removed, I am sure because someone complained of what was there. It seems SJP should never be exposed even when they do it to themselves.

That was today's drama.

Ironic this thread is started by someone who is considered a bonafide creeper by most women on this forum and that is not a personal attack, that's a fact I've heard from several of them and I know the mod has received complaints about him-unless the people who said they did were just saying that in which case I'm reporting 'bad intel' but I highly doubt a couple of them would lie.

So file this thread under "Hey pot..." which was the exact game hands played in naoko's thread and was part of why it was shut down as was his ensuing thread which he started to continue that argument between he and Naoko. That thread being shut down led to one of the shortest "I'm done here" threats of all time.

And here we are with another thread by him designed to bait.

SJP has shown the trolls the way to play here. Slap someone in the back of the head with veiled digs then look innocent for the teacher when the kid hits back.

I am sure this post if not this thread will be shut down shortly which is a shame because all I have stated in this post is fact, not attack.

As for any attack I have made on the OP, I am sorry if I refuse to ignore sexist behavior and constant referrals to non consent material and demeaning posts about women and a general air of total misogyny. I will not tolerate it in person face to face nor will I choose to let it slide here.

If someone does not want to be attacked, don't keep dropping gloves on the ground because there are people who will keep picking them up.

 

[AH_Mod]

I have already discussed one of the suggested tools with Laurel.

With the current forum software, temporary posting bans are impossible. The only available method is to ban and then remove the ban from a member after a time. My opinion was that this would be undue punishment for violations of the trolling and personal attack rules, because it does far more than prevent the member from posting.

Until such time as the underlying software can be upgraded to allow temporary posting bans, this solution is not one I'll be pursuing. I haven't seen any member exhibit behavior yet that I would consider worthy of even a temporary full ban.

The best method to avoid closure of a thread is not to engage those who derail the thread with trolling and personal attacks. Continue discussing the topic as if the interruption never happened, and my standard response is to remove the off-topic posts. When every post is part of the off-topic argument or decrying it, my standard response is to shut the thread down.

I'm not here 24/7, so it may take time for me to respond to a thread that has lost focus and degenerated into personal attacks. Far too many people are making a report, waiting a couple of hours, assuming I'm not going to take action, and then engaging in behavior that compounds the problem before I even see the report or the thread in question.

The posts removed from the thread earlier today still remain as part of their own closed thread. I stand by the need to leave bad behavior on the public record as an example. http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1261020

 

[NOIRTRASH]

I have already discussed one of the suggested tools with Laurel.

With the current forum software, temporary posting bans are impossible. The only available method is to ban and then remove the ban from a member after a time. My opinion was that this would be undue punishment for violations of the trolling and personal attack rules, because it does far more than prevent the member from posting.

Until such time as the underlying software can be upgraded to allow temporary posting bans, this solution is not one I'll be pursuing. I haven't seen any member exhibit behavior yet that I would consider worthy of even a temporary full ban.

The best method to avoid closure of a thread is not to engage those who derail the thread with trolling and personal attacks. Continue discussing the topic as if the interruption never happened, and my standard response is to remove the off-topic posts. When every post is part of the off-topic argument or decrying it, my standard response is to shut the thread down.

I'm not here 24/7, so it may take time for me to respond to a thread that has lost focus and degenerated into personal attacks. Far too many people are making a report, waiting a couple of hours, assuming I'm not going to take action, and then engaging in behavior that compounds the problem before I even see the report or the thread in question.

The posts removed from the thread earlier today still remain as part of their own closed thread. I stand by the need to leave bad behavior on the public record as an example. http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1261020

You deleted my simple observation about Jesus. That's low. Take it up with Laurel, Tell her you removed a comment about Jesus.

 

[NaokoSmith]

The posts removed from the thread earlier today still remain as part of their own closed thread. I stand by the need to leave bad behavior on the public record as an example. http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1261020

As one of the people who is featured in that thread, I am glad to stand as an example of what not to do.

I succumbed to my sense of humour and posted in the thread, yet I am always saying 'don't feed the trolls'. I shouldn't have posted, bumping the thread up again, as this was clearly a thread that was on its way to being inflamed in-fighting. It can be very hard to Ignore the impulse to say something witty, but sometimes discretion is the better part to play.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

JBJ started a thread today that was closed because SJP jumped all over me on a casual remark, they proceeded to call me and TX Rad and you-although you weren't there-a sack of shit among other choice names.

They then accused us of driving women from this site at which point I asked the question of exactly who it was that drove Selena Kitt for here and how.

the mod at first closed the thread and said they were leaving all posts up there as an example of bad behavior, which would have really allowed people to see the real SJP and get people wondering. what did happen to Miss Kitt.

Then later on the thread was reopened and all posts removed, I am sure because someone complained of what was there. It seems SJP should never be exposed even when they do it to themselves.

That was today's drama.

Ironic this thread is started by someone who is considered a bonafide creeper by most women on this forum and that is not a personal attack, that's a fact I've heard from several of them and I know the mod has received complaints about him-unless the people who said they did were just saying that in which case I'm reporting 'bad intel' but I highly doubt a couple of them would lie.

So file this thread under "Hey pot..." which was the exact game hands played in naoko's thread and was part of why it was shut down as was his ensuing thread which he started to continue that argument between he and Naoko. That thread being shut down led to one of the shortest "I'm done here" threats of all time.

And here we are with another thread by him designed to bait.

SJP has shown the trolls the way to play here. Slap someone in the back of the head with veiled digs then look innocent for the teacher when the kid hits back.

I am sure this post if not this thread will be shut down shortly which is a shame because all I have stated in this post is fact, not attack.

As for any attack I have made on the OP, I am sorry if I refuse to ignore sexist behavior and constant referrals to non consent material and demeaning posts about women and a general air of total misogyny. I will not tolerate it in person face to face nor will I choose to let it slide here.

If someone does not want to be attacked, don't keep dropping gloves on the ground because there are people who will keep picking them up.

Hmmmm. So that's the new policy. Shit in a thread and it all goes bye bye.

 

[AH_Mod]

You deleted my simple observation about Jesus. That's low. Take it up with Laurel, Tell her you removed a comment about Jesus.

Those posts remain as a part of your original thread, which was unlocked after all the off-topic posts were split from it.

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1260952

 

[sr71plt]

I don't come to Literotica to gather friends to validate or save my life. That's what generally turns into cliques gangbanging other posters. This isn't a social service or friendship club for me. It's just an erotica writing site. I'm just here to share dirty stories as an outlet from having to write and edit and consult on seriously depressing stuff on terrorism.

 

[HandsInTheDark]

Ironic this thread is started by someone who is considered a bonafide creeper by most women on this forum and that is not a personal attack, that's a fact I've heard from several of them.

Cite, please. If we're going to get personal - and you just have - I'd like some facts. If by creepster they mean stalking women in PMs, sorry, that has never happened. I haven't been even vaguely flirty with anyone here.

If they mean the utterly false and actionable accusation of pedophilia (if memory serves, you were a voice in that chorus?) awhile back, again, false. It got repeated enough times I had to go to Laurel to get the thread deleted, but the word was used by someone who didn't know what it means and the claim has no basis in fact; anyone repeating it is engaging in actionable slander.

If they mean I write noncon, yes I do. I write bodice-rippers and three of my stories involve kidnapping and forced orgasms. That's clearly noncon by any definition, so guilty as charged. But if we're going to call actual people creeps because of what they write, everyone in here is a creep to someone, you not least of all.

By the way, there's no irony, even if I was a creepster. Wanting a tranquil forum, and panting after women's panties (or however you define creepster; it seems to be a case of a connotationless word you threw down, hoping it would get repeated and given connotation by others) are unrelated things. This thread is about personal attacks, not likeability.

I feel about incest about the way you seem to about noncon (and unlike you I haven't admitted to a real life desire to kidnap and abuse anyone - I write fiction - the way you've admitted to real life incestuous feelings) - and I don't seem driven to hunt you across forums and make repeated personal attacks. Personal attacks aren't generally worth my time. So I think there's a bit of an inequality in our behaviors, and a few people have written to tell me they feel your behaviour is perceived as a problem. They aren't friends of mine - they are strangers reaching out to me because you're known for this behaviour and they wanted me to know I'm not alone. At least one was female, and she admitted she didn't love all my posts, but she still wrote to tell me I was right about you. You also have made at least one mod angry and she's off trying to determine what should be done about it. Not because of your opinions, because of your actions.

Any mod want to step forward and call me a problem? Anyone going to show proof I harassed them? In other words, anyone got anything on me beyond disliking something I posted? Because if we get to hate and rumor-monger and make false claims based on a court of opinions about opinions, supported by a bunch of accusatory PMs no one else gets to see, there's the forum's problem right there. Just because you've got an echo chamber, doesn't mean you've got any truth.

But this thread isn't here just about LC. A bunch of you seem to love to pile on SJP because you claim she isn't something she says she is. I have no idea what's up with that and don't care. But assume (apologies, SJP) the very worst. Assume she's a he and has some psychological reason to lie. Or is doing it to increase sales because woo, female erotica writer. Or whatever possesses people to lie about gender; it's common enough on roleplay sites. Does it matter? Why does anyone care? This is either persecution of some innocent female, or harassment of someone with a mental issue or persistent transgender need, or at the very least an attempt to ruin someone's sales strategy. All of that's wrong. Why can't you leave it alone? Even if you're right, acknowledge the behaviour, set ignore if it bugs you, and move on. What's driving the hate?

Live and let live. Recommend people try it some time. It's what I do, both in real life and here.

 

[TxRad]

Live and let live. Recommend people try it some time. It's what I do here.

Bullshit! You're a pot stirrer. Nothing more and nothing less.

 

[HandsInTheDark]

Bullshit! You're a pot stirrer. Nothing more and nothing less.

Eh. I'm rather more than that, but I do enjoy stating opinions and debating them. But it's the debate I find interesting, not the personalities behind them. If that's "pot stirring", yay. I'm not the only one with a spoon here, and it's only by stirring that the broth gets improved.

One reason I opened this thread is because I'm annoyed how how many debates and discussions get cut short by thread closures. If we can eliminate the ad hominem, discussions might get interesting.

I'm not flagging your response as a personal attack because eh, you're not entirely wrong. I love a good debate. But I don't see why that's bad. Again... in the absence of personal attack, setting Ignore is cheap and easy and then you don't have to look at any pots you don't like.

I was hoping for more discussion on how to get rid of the ad hominem. It's harder if the site does not support temporary bans (everywhere else I've been does.) Come on, folk, raise the discussion up a level...

 

[HandsInTheDark]

Heh!

Great thread BTW...

My guess: Social Territory. King of the hill seems to be very popular here. So many writers willing to fight over page views, nominal prizes, and ratings... Its like a prison guard experiment gone wrong.

That said... I've met some people who are way fun! But sadly, they mostly send me private messages.

But nothing that happens in the forums is going to radically affect views and ratings. Readers outnumber authors massively. Yeah, I think most of the one-bombers are authors, but eventually their noise gets swept or diluted. Contests and prizes? Maybe people think winning a contest leads somewhere big; the cash prizes themselves aren't a huge incentive. Attacks on the hall of fame? Again, sweeps fix it. My fans (some of whom know me as friends) love me to pieces; hate mail is vanishingly rare (I don't touch LW). What happens in here has about zero impact on anything. Except some people's blood pressure, it seems.

But maybe you're right. No reader has ever offered me hate over my stories. I rarely even get snarky comments on stories. (One reader decided I might be psychopathic but then she read the rest of my stories and apologized.) The only hostility comes from authors. So it has to be either that authors are unusually prone to personality disorder (and there's a stereotype to that effect) or folk here are in some sort of weird competition.

I hope the prize is worth it.

 

[lovecraft68]

Eh. I'm rather more than that

No, you would like to think you are more than that, but you're not. You're a shit stirrer and you know it, you're also a sexist pig and you know it. In fact my insight into you is you get aroused by posting your sexist BS and knowing it may upset someone.

I think you get off on women thinking you're creepy.

In many of your posts you start out with "I don't condone' blah blah, but later in the post fully condone it. You topped that off ina post you were smart enough to go back and edit where you said you won't talk to anyone under eighteen here, but then went on to talk about how you discussed rape porn with a minor. Remember that? I do, so do others, it was reported and a good reason that thread was shut down.

As for a debate? You're not worth one to me, not after the incest thread where you accused me of being a pedo-me and anyone else that has ever written or read an incest story here-and I called you out for your denial that you are a supporter of flat out rape porn.

the debate was over then you started your "Why I don't like your story" thread and in your example took a within the rules reluctance paragraph and turned it into flat out rape. I am sure that one gave you a little bit of wood. But it proved my point.

As for SJP fact is I imagine you would probably find what they did here years ago amusing, after all it was bullying and demeaning a woman.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AAgeT1X5oI

GETTING ALONG by Fritz Perls

 

[HandsInTheDark]

No, you would like to think you are more than that, but you're not. You're a shit stirrer and you know it, you're also a sexist pig and you know it. In fact my insight into you is you get aroused by posting your sexist BS and knowing it may upset someone.

I think you get off on women thinking you're creepy.

In many of your posts you start out with "I don't condone' blah blah, but later in the post fully condone it. You topped that off ina post you were smart enough to go back and edit where you said you won't talk to anyone under eighteen here, but then went on to talk about how you discussed rape porn with a minor. Remember that? I do, so do others, it was reported and a good reason that thread was shut down.

As for a debate? You're not worth one to me, not after the incest thread where you accused me of being a pedo-me and anyone else that has ever written or read an incest story here-and I called you out for your denial that you are a supporter of flat out rape porn.

the debate was over then you started your "Why I don't like your story" thread and in your example took a within the rules reluctance paragraph and turned it into flat out rape. I am sure that one gave you a little bit of wood. But it proved my point.

As for SJP fact is I imagine you would probably find what they did here years ago amusing, after all it was bullying and demeaning a woman.

There's so much wrong here I don't know where to start. Trust me, nothing that happens in AH has ever gotten me hard. Sometimes vaguely queasy...

Since it's important to be clear on this, I've had emailed discussions with fans about my stories. Plenty of them, because some people take the time to read stories with real character development and complex backdrops and motivations, and like to discuss. My readership is overwhelmingly female (at least those who contact me are), typically very bright (how many authors here can claim that?), and they cover the spectrum in age. When it *subsequently* turns out that they are under 18 - that's happened twice, both times after they'd initially lied about it and I called them on it - I end the conversation immediately. Maybe if your fans wrote you you'd realise that happens; I assumed it was a common problem around here.

I've read Laurel's sticky on Noncon, over in Story Ideas. (I saw it for the first time this week). If you think I'm violating her guidelines, report my stories. Feel free. It's pretty much your responsibility as a member here. But they won't come down because they are well within guidelines, rate well, get positive comments, etc. And harassing me because you don't like Laurel's rules is beyond absurd.

Seriously. Anyone who knows me - you I think never will - would stare at your post, stare at me, and shake their head in total confusion.

If I wronged you - and I seem to recall you had a 12 year old in a story (CAVEAT! I'm NOT sure that was yours and I am definitely not going to go looking) and while nothing actually happened until the kid turned 18 (so it was within rules), I remember being really, really horrified and I don't doubt I went overboard in a comment here - I fully apologize. I mean if that's the basis of your hate and an apology will settle it, you have it. You're clearly not a pedophile if you are in your 40s and you find your sister erotic. I withdraw any comment I may have ever made that could have implied otherwise. Seriously, whatever it takes to get you off my back.

Anyone else I need to apologise to?

 

[IvyMarquis]

So I'm new to the forums and have been creeping in the AH, and I have to say having seen the thread in question earlier today, I'm kind of torn.

Part of me finds that kind of shit throwing, needless name calling clusterfuck (I won't say unprovoked, but the response definitely fell under Disproportionate Retribution) was really daunting and makes me second guess wanting to get involved on a more personal (and by that I mean posting on the forums; I'm keeping you all at arms length, but that's just how I roll online) level whatsoever. Another part is hoping that it's not an everyday occurrence but this thread is making me question that.

Another part is kind of glad that was my first real intro to the AH because I guess I know what I'm getting myself into if I stick around (And I probably will), even if it means watching grown adults bicker worse than 13 year olds over something trivial. Or, rather I won't, as I'll just start flinging the block button around. Can't feed the trolls if you can't see what they have to say, after all. I shouldn't have to wrap my head around how a forum populated with ONLY adults is somehow less civilized than all the other forums I'm on, some of which are populated almost entirely by tweens and teenagers. I'm not going to. I'm just whipping out my personal ban hammer, as per my policy everywhere when the feature is available. I don't say who gets blocked or why, because it's no one's business and more important, no one gives a shit.

I may not have participated in the thread, but there's a person or two who made it onto the block list because of their behavior, and something tells me a couple more from this one are going to make the list too- I'd love to have a quiet place to chit chat with other authors since this is the only writing site I'm on that allows erotica, and if I have to block half the people in this forum then so friggin be it.

It's insane that it even has to be suggested the mods put in a shit ton of extra effort to keep this place fairly tidy when people could just not be jackasses in the first place. Which yes, I understand all it is is a few clicks and a wrist twitch every now and then to move threads and posts so in theory isn't that much work, but obviously if left unattended long enough this place goes up quicker than a lit hay stack, so I guess they'll do what they can, when they can, the best they can.

I'm sure there will still be minion gathering and shit talking behind the scenes, but at least then I don't have to see it.

 

[Hypoxia]

The iggy list is your friend.

 

[sr71plt]

For the record, the AH had no moderator--or moderation--up until very recently, so the adjustments being made now that there is a moderator are very much early on and mixed. And they don't match the posted forum rules on posting yet (see rule #13 and the "anything goes" paragraph), so there's likely to be confusion for a while.

 

[Nathan_Brazil]

You MIGHT already have a future in the State Department,

If you can get these bands of terrorists to end their centuries of war...

Because there is nothing harder to stop than two sides who want to fight, who NEED to fight, who have invested everything they have in saying, 'this is who I am'.

I wasn't around for the beginning of this squabble, or even know any of the players, but I'm thinking... This much hatred? Really? Can't you do all of us a favour, and just stop talking to (or about) one another?

Please...

 

[HandsInTheDark]

So I'm new to the forums and have been creeping in the AH, and I have to say having seen the thread in question earlier today, I'm kind of torn.

Then you came at a good time. It's not a healthy forum, but it's gained a moderator and the site owner has expressed an interest in damping down the hostility. So there's some hope you will see it improve; this ought to be the bottom.

I can't tell you if it is worth the wait. Noir posts some interesting nuggets from time to time. There are ongoing word games and there's information about contests offered here. (I don't enter contests.) The secret is never to criticise anything and always be positive or silent; follow that and you'll probably do fine. I didn't. Oh well.

Also, this thread is unusual. I don't think it's been tried before. It's already generated one apology, so who knows. But initial results are just what you see: the worst of everything going on display. It's not always like this, though.

Anyway, welcome to Literotica. If you think this is bad, try posting a story to Loving Wives. And by all accounts the General Board is worse - I wouldn't know, I don't read there.

 

[Learin]

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1261020

I'm still LMAO at that "Caaaan you feel the loooove" comment. Can you please make it a sticky thread?

 

[sheablue]

Anyone else I need to apologise to?

Since you've asked ... in Naoko's famous thread that got closed, on women getting harassed and/or hoodwinked by men pretending to have an interest in their writing, you and I were disagreeing/debating/discussing. You were riled up and called me "Sweetheart." As in, "listen here, sweetheart if you blah blah, etc." It was off-putting, and unbecoming for someone, such as you, who seems to pride himself on not making things personal, and in debating and discussing fairly and rationally.

So, if you're handing out apologies ...