Gender Discrimination
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Just look at the Board of Directors at any major firm, company, business in this country, and it seems very blatant to me.
And how many women run for president and succeed? ah, none.
OMG, Lavender, we agree on something.
I personally work in the healthcare field which is predominately female until the Executive level such as pres. and ceo, I can not agree with you more. I hope you kicked their ass in your debate.
And how many women run for president and succeed? ah, none.
OMG, Lavender, we agree on something.
I personally work in the healthcare field which is predominately female until the Executive level such as pres. and ceo, I can not agree with you more. I hope you kicked their ass in your debate.
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ah, damn, I thought I fixed that problem with cookies, previous post by uc. sorry.........
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uh yes, I guess they do in their private lives. Would a women who likes to be a slave sexually potentially be qualified as an high level executive?
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uh yes, I guess they do in their private lives. Would a women who likes to be a slave sexually potentially be qualified as an high level executive?
What about male discrimination? It works both ways you know.
Two of the current job I have was a "woman's" {I think all jobs are unigender} The only reason I got them because I as a male was the last resort because there were no females to fill the positiopn. My employers even went as far to say that soon as a female came along to fill the position I would be let go.
The most frustrating thing about the whole deal is, from what the managers of the store that I work in told me, I have quadruple the sales of any of the women in the past in my position.
Waiting is a prodominantly a female career , men have difficulty getting into it, most resatuarants will out right tell you they will not hire a man for waiting because they don't have the eye appeal of a woman.
Nursing, is a prodominantly Female carreer, but at last men are makingheadway and getting thier foot in the door. Not all me want to be docotrs but love to care for people. For the longest time they had been discriminated against because of thier gender.
But just ask the Democrats there is no male discrimination, its just men don't want those jobs
Two of the current job I have was a "woman's" {I think all jobs are unigender} The only reason I got them because I as a male was the last resort because there were no females to fill the positiopn. My employers even went as far to say that soon as a female came along to fill the position I would be let go.
The most frustrating thing about the whole deal is, from what the managers of the store that I work in told me, I have quadruple the sales of any of the women in the past in my position.
Waiting is a prodominantly a female career , men have difficulty getting into it, most resatuarants will out right tell you they will not hire a man for waiting because they don't have the eye appeal of a woman.
Nursing, is a prodominantly Female carreer, but at last men are makingheadway and getting thier foot in the door. Not all me want to be docotrs but love to care for people. For the longest time they had been discriminated against because of thier gender.
But just ask the Democrats there is no male discrimination, its just men don't want those jobs
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It's my opinion that the more sexually aware a woman is, no matter what form her sexuality takes, the more well-balanced she is all aspects of her life. I think a woman who knew and gave voice to her need for sexual submission might be *more* highly qualified for a high-ranking position than a comparably qualified woman who is fighting to understand her own drives and needs.
Of course, questions of sexuality and sexual identity don't belong in the workplace anyway, so the question is moot.
Why not? What does any woman's sexuality have to do with her ability to perform her job with brilliance?unusuallyconfused said:
It's my opinion that the more sexually aware a woman is, no matter what form her sexuality takes, the more well-balanced she is all aspects of her life. I think a woman who knew and gave voice to her need for sexual submission might be *more* highly qualified for a high-ranking position than a comparably qualified woman who is fighting to understand her own drives and needs.
Of course, questions of sexuality and sexual identity don't belong in the workplace anyway, so the question is moot.
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Restaurants - Upscale restaurants are staffed more by men than women; I have eaten at many restaurants where women would not even be considered for a waitstaff position. These are the dream waiter jobs, where a person (sorry - man) can expect three to four figures in tips a night. And women are simply excluded. It's tradition, you know. And this doesn't even include the issue of matre d's.Todd said:
Nursing - The reason women historically entered the nursing profession is because they weren't allowed to become doctors. My grandmother was an R.N., and a damn fine one, but she couldn't even consider a career as a doctor. Society may presume that men wish to pursue a medical degree instead of a nursing degree, but at least they have always had the choice.
My point? The unavailability of choices to women far exceeds those denied to men. Discrimination (or more accurately, disfavor) against men exists, but it is not nearly as pervasive or as destructive as the female counterpart.
(And UC, Lavy did kick their collective ass in debate, except on the day she conveniently didn't show up. So I filled her shoes for the day.
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Hello lavender. You know, I had to go reread the 13th - 15th Amendments, just because you typed that....hahaha...
Yes, I am aware of the history of the 14th Amendment, but the actual wording doesn't mention blacks, or men, or Italians or Canadians or women at all. The wording of the Amendment, says "any person". I just can't see why women need a special amendment to the U.S. Constitution just for them. If women get their own Amendment to the Constitution, won't blacks deserve one, then gays, then midgets (I can hear the flame throwers igniting now). Just maybe this has something to do with why the ERA was never ratified by enough states to become law.
Is everyone in this country that is not a heterosexual white male, a victim? And if everyone is being discriminated against, who is doing all this discriminating? After all, there are more women than men, and if you combine all the ethnic, religious, and gender preference minorities, they too, probably outnumber heterosexual white males. If HWM's are so busy trying to make life hard on all the rest of the people of this planet, what else do we have time for?
Gender differences exist. They are real. To illustrate my point with a bizarre example; how long would a topless bar stay in business if they had to hire an equal number of men?
I think we should celebrate the differences between men and women, not label one the victim while the other is labeled the victimizer. I think the amount of discrimination women suffer is greatly exagerated. I heard O'Reily or someone recently citing statistics that indicate that if maternity leave and the negative impact it has on a woman's career are factored out of income statistics, then women and men are almost exactly equal in income per capita.
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hahaha..... lavender, ... good post.
I kinda feel the same way when you post. I almost owe it to you... to reply.....
The O'Reily "thing" was put in there specifically for your benefit. I knew you would respond to that one. Funny though, most conservatives don't see him as being a conservative. It's only when you compare him to the rest of "major media" that he becomes conservative.
You know me well enough by now, to know that I want all people to be treated equally. Ironically, I am a high level manager in the company I work for, but my boss (VP of the Americas) is a woman. I trained her about ten years ago, when she joined our company. She rose to the top on her abilities and hard work. She is a fantastic boss. That is the way the system is supposed to work. And before anyone thinks that is a negative reflection on me, I interviewed for her job, but wasn't willing to relocate. I then became her biggest fan, and recomended her for the job.
When there is injustice, it is the responsibility of everyone to work to stop it. When the injustice has been stopped, it becomes the responsibility of everyone to make peace and work together. When the unjustly treated hold onto their resentment after the injustice has stopped, resentment begins to build on both sides.
One other little thing. The makeup of the congress is not a very good example of discrimination. When there are more women voters than men, and the vast majority of elected officials are still men, it says something about either the quality of the candidates or the societal perception that men make better leaders. And don't make the old argument that the "political machines" are controlled by men. I am fairly active in Republican politics in Texas, and women DOMINATE organizational positions within the party at the higher levels and the grass roots level.
lavender, thanks for the attitude you have in your posts... it is most sincerely appreciated......
last night, when I left the board after CH's tirade, I had no intention of coming back. I later received a very nice appology from CH. I can only assume that someone pointed out how he had misunderstood my posts. I have an idea that the someone might have been you....
lavender said:Damn, I'm trying to get work done and then I see that Texan has posted on my thread and I just have to respond. Damn you, Texan!
My, my, Texan! You bash all of my sources and here you go quoting O'Reily! Now that's an interesting source if I ever heard one! The discrimination women suffer is not exagerrated. All you have to do is look at the Senate, the House, the political structure. You said earlier that women are the majority. However, women are NOT the majority in these prominent positions. Women are not the majority in high positions at companies. But, things are changing. Women are in the majority in educational institutions. There is a great increase in the number of women in law school and medical school. More women are getting higher degrees than in the past. I truly hope that this trend is reflected in a few decades in our government, our major corporations, and in society as a whole.
hahaha..... lavender, ... good post.
I kinda feel the same way when you post. I almost owe it to you... to reply.....
The O'Reily "thing" was put in there specifically for your benefit. I knew you would respond to that one. Funny though, most conservatives don't see him as being a conservative. It's only when you compare him to the rest of "major media" that he becomes conservative.
You know me well enough by now, to know that I want all people to be treated equally. Ironically, I am a high level manager in the company I work for, but my boss (VP of the Americas) is a woman. I trained her about ten years ago, when she joined our company. She rose to the top on her abilities and hard work. She is a fantastic boss. That is the way the system is supposed to work. And before anyone thinks that is a negative reflection on me, I interviewed for her job, but wasn't willing to relocate. I then became her biggest fan, and recomended her for the job.
When there is injustice, it is the responsibility of everyone to work to stop it. When the injustice has been stopped, it becomes the responsibility of everyone to make peace and work together. When the unjustly treated hold onto their resentment after the injustice has stopped, resentment begins to build on both sides.
One other little thing. The makeup of the congress is not a very good example of discrimination. When there are more women voters than men, and the vast majority of elected officials are still men, it says something about either the quality of the candidates or the societal perception that men make better leaders. And don't make the old argument that the "political machines" are controlled by men. I am fairly active in Republican politics in Texas, and women DOMINATE organizational positions within the party at the higher levels and the grass roots level.
lavender, thanks for the attitude you have in your posts... it is most sincerely appreciated......
last night, when I left the board after CH's tirade, I had no intention of coming back. I later received a very nice appology from CH. I can only assume that someone pointed out how he had misunderstood my posts. I have an idea that the someone might have been you....
