Gay mind vs straightt mind

[TransJason]

There has been research in a few countries recently that has found that men can only be aroused by either gay sex or straight sex porno (this includes lesbian sex porn) but not both.
This confused the researchers as it blew the concept of bi men out the water, it just didnt happen that men were aroused by both even if they had said they were bi, however it was also found that women could and would be stimulated by watching ANY porn even chimpanzees getting frisky , no matter what sexual reference they had indicated they were!

So all you bi guys out there ?? what do think ?..innatley gay but forced to comform to hetro life because of societies stresses. Do you fantasis about men even though your with a women ?

 

[binary1980]

dont believe it. i can get off on either straight or gay porn. im married and enjoy sex with my wife but i also enjoy fooling around with men. maybe im just an anomaly lol.

 

[TransJason]

The research was non physical stimulation i.e you couldnt wank, you just sat and watched the movies and a sensor monitoered the arousal levels in the brain and genitalia.

Many sexual acts are learnt, and socialised into people, but when the subjects where on their own, the results were the same, no bi men, just either straight or gay.

Which doesnt mean that you cant enjoy having a sexual experience in a physical way, just that the natural innante arousal id either or.

And these were guys who were bi in normal life, and had sex with men and women, thast why it was such an interesting finding.

 

[robbie_boy1]

call me old fashion, but I think it's all pretty boring. I have been in swinger houses with porn playing and in male houses with porn playing...I would rather be doing something fun like being *sexual*....I love men and women... that being said be kind, horny and have a heart beat. lol.....

There has been research in a few countries recently that has found that men can only be aroused by either gay sex or straight sex porno (this includes lesbian sex porn) but not both.
This confused the researchers as it blew the concept of bi men out the water, it just didnt happen that men were aroused by both even if they had said they were bi, however it was also found that women could and would be stimulated by watching ANY porn even chimpanzees getting frisky , no matter what sexual reference they had indicated they were!

So all you bi guys out there ?? what do think ?..innatley gay but forced to comform to hetro life because of societies stresses. Do you fantasis about men even though your with a women ?

 

[Etoile]

I know we had a thread that mentioned this in the past but I don't think I could find it if I tried!

I hadn't heard the part before about women being very flexible in their porn choices. That does explain some of the things I got off on when I was a kid and too young to get real porn! (Anatomy textbook, anyone?) Nowadays I download all kinds of porn.

 

[slipperyelm]

uh huh?

Very interesting. I love sex with females, watching females on video, or even magazines. Its a turn on. I could never give them up. (females that is)
But a few years ago I met a man and had my 1st gay experience. We still see each other once in awhile for some fun. Since then I get turned on by both pictures of men and women and videos of either. I do think I am bi, but if I had to choose between a woman or a man I'd choose the woman.

 

[binary1980]

interesting, i misread it then. im still not sure i buy it. but its interesting none the less.

 

[TransJason]

Its not disputing that people are bi in their sexual ply but that one part is investigative so to speak and one is innate.

Particularly with men....that power play comes into it and over rides the innate sexual desires...with women its different, its not a thought about thing its just pure visual arousal.

Maybe its the fact that men have more of a fantasy world than women and think about sex much more often, so they can think thier way into a gay sotuation out of curiosity and fascination, even if when shown the sexual act between anonymous men it doesnt do anything..i.e the penis doesnt get aroused.

Its the difference between male and female again !!!

 

[Gi_Venus]

I am not postive but I believe that I used to be aroused by both.....now I might have been cheating and touching myself.....pause.....I was touching myself...grinning so I cannot offer objective observations.

Gi

 

[TransJason]

yes exactly !..they had to use probes to test arousal and not allow the participants tp play with themselves....

Its the old male brain vs female brain thing again...its amazing the species has ever survived

 

[tusculumpioneer]

Frogs

in med school I think we all watched an educational video about 2 frog (bean bags/stop action) do just about everything. I don't know if it means I'm a woman or really horny, but I enjooy porn where 2 adults are having fun and care at least a little about each other's humanity. Pain, bondage and domination are great as long as there is a concern about the other's pleaure/pain/whatever.

 

[CuriousNiceGuy]

Hmm? simple answer. Threesome.MMF.
We are turned on by both gay and straight sex.

 

[yoyome100]

Often in these studies, devices are attached to the genitals. In the case of males they use a strain guage wrapped aroung the penis. They then show a control picture and the different erotic pictures. They then note how the subject responds to the images shown. I can tell you without such a device that images of women and men get me aroused.

 

[none2_none2]

I'm not sure I quite agree with what people think this study means. I have found some str8 porn a turn on. However, I have to admit, they were all videos where the guy was getting fucked by one or more women who were wearing strapon's.

I guess what I'm saying is that my interest is muscular, hairy, masculine men who use their asses/mouths to please others. Whether the person this attractive man is pleasing is male or female, doesn't make that much of a difference to me. If on the other hand it is just a porn pic where this guy is using his dick to get off, then it doesn't matter whether his partner is male or female, it won't do as much for me as it just seems like one more of the gillizions of porn flicks where the emphasis is on an attractive man's penis. That doesn't do anything for me.

 

[Baskin Robbins]

I'm straight, maybe leaning bi. I can watch men and women and any combination involving the above said. I'll watch the guy in a video as well as the woman. It's the act and imaginaing yourself in that HOTTTT situation more than actually being attracted to the guy. A guys butt is a guys butt. I have one... big deal. It's seeing a guy do something that I fantasize about that REALLY turns me on! Also -- call me a wuss -- but when I fantasize -- it's about my wife, not Pamela Anderson. Maybe I need to tell her that.

 

[none2_none2]

I think you missed half my point in my interests. I'm not attracted to every guy. Also, not all butts are the same, some are fat, some are smooth, some are wrinkly, some are skinny, some are flabby, some are hairy.... To think they are all the same would be as silly as thinking that all female breasts are the same.

I personally like guys who are hairy, muscular, and masculine. As to the porn, I want such guys to be using their ass and/or mouth to please others -- male or female. That IS the act of doing something on film not just some guy standing and posing while the film rolls.

Why should I get turned on by guys using their penis to get pleasure either from their own hand, an object, or somone else's body (regardless of a str8 or gay plot)? Any guy can or would do such a thing. I do the same thing to get relief myself. On the other hand, how many guys would use other parts of their body to GIVE pleasure. There is a surprise element to an attractive, masculine guy who offers other parts of his body to please others. There is no surprise if a guy wants to get sucked, fuck, get a hand job, whatever... Might as well see a movie where the entire plot is to watch a guy eat and drink -- that is about how interesting it is to watch a guy do what he would do on or off film anyway.

 

[TransJason]

Exactly..with men arousal is very specific and is to do with fantasy...men have to think themselves into arousal...women dont.

So re the research maybe the porn that was shown to the bi-straight men wasnt specific to their inner fantasy world of gay male sex.

With the women any sexual encounter got the juices running.

So bi men are bi but only in a specific manner.

???

 

[none2_none2]

Exactly..with men arousal is very specific and is to do with fantasy...men have to think themselves into arousal...women dont.

That is too simplistic. Plus people reun the gamut it isn't all men are this, women are that. Keep in mind that other things play a factor -- how strong the hormones are, age, health, etc.

For instance, when I was younger and first getting started, I could have sex with just about anyone willing -- with just a few exceptions. Then I went through the stage where I could give "sympathy fucks" for lack of a better expression for those times you did it as a favor to someone that really didn't turn me on or I really wasn't desperate for sex. Then even later my cock simply wouldn't functon if the guy was a turn off: personality sucked (classist, effeminate, cock-centered, other pet peeves of mine, etc.); bad hygene (dirty teeth, bad breath, BO, dirty ass, unwashed uncut cock, nasel hair moustache, etc); unattracive (too skinny, too obease, too twinky, too smooth and without muscle, etc.).

Now I'm in a stage where I cannot even count on my equipment cooperating 100% of the time even if the guy turns me on. (I'm sure it is a combo of age, hormones, and maybe even being pre-diabetic.)

When Baskin Robbins mentioned his ass being just an ass, I thought it was rather short sided. If he does decide to have a m2m encounter as the bottom, he will have to rely on the other guy being turned on. Just fucking a hole because it is there won't work for a lot of guys -- especially as you get older. A cock isn't a dildo or a vibrator, it has a human attached to it. There is no on/off button to make it work at the flick of a switch. There has to be some chemistry -- especially if you aren't super charged with teen levels of testostrone. Even with viagra, if you don't attract the top, the top won't get off on it even if he does try to fantasize or "think" about someone else or some other encounter. There are even times that you can physically "make" yourself cum, but if the chemistry wasn't there, you wont' feel "satisfied".

Now back when I was a teen, it didn't require any fantasy to be arounsed. I'm sure plenty of guys can relate to the following in their youth: lawn mower handlebars vibrating, jetting water in a pool, vaccume cleaners. Those are just a few things I can remember that turned me on -- no fantasy what so ever -- just raw sensations that could turn your cock on just from the sensations of the moment.

 

[Gavionn]

TJ~

Having only read the first few posts, I'm going to risk a redundancy and just give my 2 cents straight away.

What little gay porn I have seen does nothing for me. It's either too brutal or too romantic.

Girl/Girl porn I love.

Straight porn (when done well) is super hot, but the guy must have a gorgeous cock.

Group Sex porn is also super hot. Especially when 2 guys have their cocks close together, or even touching.

Bi-sexual group has so much promise, but every one I've seen is just gay guys trying to act straight while fucking women, just waiting to get with the other guy or guys in the scene.

Find me a group sex scene (not an orgy) that has guys come into incidental contact with each other, and then just go with it. THAT would be hot.

Any Producers out there? Find me the right talent, and I could direct you a Blockbuster!

Gay men don't turn me on. Straight men who might let me blow them do.

Does this make sense?

 

[Xelebes]

What of the thoughts of replacing the woman in the video with yourself?

 

[Gavionn]

What of the thoughts of replacing the woman in the video with yourself?

I know that many men do that. I've read enough posts on here to understand that it is a common thread.

It doesn't apply to me though. When I watch porn, I need to be able to connect one of the women with someone in my life. One of my favorite's is Lanni Barbie, because she resembles my wife in many ways. She also looks at the camera a lot. This allows me to fantasize that my wife is the one sucking that long, hard cock.

Sometimes I picture her saying:

"Mmmm. You like watching me suck this cock, don't you. You want to watch me ride it, huh?"

Within a second I might fantasize her saying:

"Mmm. He's all ready for you now, baby. Come show me how it's done."

Either way, I'm equally turned on. I'm seeing a gorgeous woman who looks like my wife, paired with a hard bodied man with a suckable dick.

It's a win/win. Really, the only fantasy part is her encouraging me to blow him.

Several months ago we were watching a porn flick. There was a guy with a particularly attractive cock. Trying to make me feel better (as she often does during these viewings) she said:

"Oh... he's TOO big."

To which I said: "Oh, c'mon..... if he were standing next to the bed right now with that thing in your face, you'd be all over it."

"Would you?" She replied.

I finally thought we had reached the proper level of comfort in our marriage, where we could actually talk about our wants and desires. I had to think for a few seconds before I responded. Just as I was opening my mouth to reply, she said:

"You'd better say 'No'."

Silly. She's attracted to women and has even experienced women.

But for me to openly admit that I'm interested in tasting cock is a problem. Makes no sort of logical sense.

Especially when you factor in the fact that she hates giving head. Seems like it should be a perfect excuse for her to never have to do it again. Since once every 3 or 4 years seems to be too much for her.

LOL. Not funny, but true.

 

[John Doe]

Sounds like junk science to me.

 

[snowy ciara]

With the women any sexual encounter got the juices running.

???

To quote a friend, wrong answer....

"Any" sexual encounter does not get my juices flowing. If I'm not turned on, I'm not turned on. There's this old stereotype that a woman doesn't have to be turned on to have sex, she just needs to open her legs. Some women are maybe like that. I know that if I'm not turned on, and there is no power exchange relationship, (D/s) I'm handing you a bottle a lotion and tellin' you to have fun. If my brain's not into it, the body's not interested either. One of my bi male friends can pop wood with either stimulus, straight or gay porn. Not all lesbian porn turns him on either. The male sexual psyche is more varied than most people are willing to give them credit for.

Another stereotype that is being "proven" here is that men are either gay or straight. I know to many bi men to believe that.

It sounds like this experiment was designed to prove a point. I did try to find it via Google, to read it for myself, but I didn't find it. Would you mind posting some linkage to the study in question? I'd like to read it, but until then, I'm with Stupe on the junk science angle.

 

[webber1998]

There has been research in a few countries recently that has found that men can only be aroused by either gay sex or straight sex porno (this includes lesbian sex porn) but not both.
This confused the researchers as it blew the concept of bi men out the water, it just didnt happen that men were aroused by both even if they had said they were bi, however it was also found that women could and would be stimulated by watching ANY porn even chimpanzees getting frisky , no matter what sexual reference they had indicated they were!

So all you bi guys out there ?? what do think ?..innatley gay but forced to comform to hetro life because of societies stresses. Do you fantasis about men even though your with a women ?

I contend that straight or gay sex arouses me. Period....

 

[ars_amatoria]

My experience is to the contrary, at least somewhat. I'm right in the middle of the Kinsey scale, but I've found that what sort of porn arouses me to the point of orgasm depends on the time and situation, and I often don't know what will do it until I get into it.

Either kind will arouse me to a certain extent, but once I reach a certain point, I 'll discover that one kind just isn't doing it for me-- but the other kind will. I identify with the person who mentioned that men need to project themselves into a situation. I know I do, so it's large a question of which "room" do I go to-- the one with the man, or with the woman?

And unlike someone else's experience here, I generally don't get off on hetero porn by projecting myself into the woman's place. For one thing, I don't have a vagina or breasts. Maybe occasionally I'll enjoy a picture of a woman sucking a man, but I usually project myself into his position, not hers. But if it's a man sucking a cock, then I'll project myself into the sucker's position. If I'm in the mood for that sort of thing, which I am, oh, half the time.