Future of Cuba?

[pecksniff]

The Castro brothers have after many decades passed from the scene . . . but I haven't heard any rumors of any impending real changes. Has anyone?

 

[pecksniff]

It is kind of impressive that they have managed to keep their system going three decades after Russian aid dried up.

 

[colddiesel]

Nothing much will happen in Cuba until Cuban Floridans cease to be electorally important.

 

[pecksniff]

Nothing much will happen in Cuba until Cuban Floridans cease to be electorally important.

What impact do they have on events in Cuba, as distinct from American elections?

 

[colddiesel]

What impact do they have on events in Cuba, as distinct from American elections?

A lot. Significant American economic sanctions on Cuba remain in place because neither D's nor R's want to lose votes in Florida by dropping sanctions and allowing Cuba to develop economically. Therefore Cuban expats resident in Florida are appeased by both parties.

If Biden decides that the pensioner vote will deliver Florida to the GOP without the Cuban expat's vote he might well decide to drop the sanctions against Cuba.

Primary and secondary trade sanctions have been in place for 58 years to longest US trade embargo ever.

 

[pecksniff]

If sanctions ever are dropped, then a lot of Cuban tourists and businessmen will start visiting the U.S. They'll see how things are here for real, with their own eyes. They'll talk to their relatives in Miami, who will fill their ears with the praises of capitalism and democracy. When they return home, they'll start asking inconvenient questions, like, "Why does this big island, the size of Florida, with so much land and resources and a literate population, have to be so poor? Why are we still driving cars the Yanquis made in the 1950s?" That will shake things up there more surely than another decade of sanctions would.

 

[CornusKousa]

A lot. Significant American economic sanctions on Cuba remain in place because neither D's nor R's want to lose votes in Florida by dropping sanctions and allowing Cuba to develop economically.

But they are so progressive they don't need racist horrible USA to drop sanctions.

Develop economically? They are PEAK "progressive" economics bro......

They are the Democrat ideal.

 

[CornusKousa]

If sanctions ever are dropped, then a lot of Cuban tourists and businessmen will start visiting the U.S. They'll see how things are here for real, with their own eyes. They'll talk to their relatives in Miami, who will fill their ears with the praises of capitalism and democracy. When they return home, they'll start asking inconvenient questions, like, "Why does this big island, the size of Florida, with so much land and resources and a literate population, have to be so poor? Why are we still driving cars the Yanquis made in the 1950s?" That will shake things up there more surely than another decade of sanctions would.

And the "Progressive" comrades will NOT like those questions.

This is why just like every other "progressive" country the Cuban people will not be allowed to leave or interact with the 1st world, except under the most controlled circumstances.

 

[Rightguide]

And the "Progressive" comrades will NOT like those questions.

This is why just like every other "progressive" country the Cuban people will not be allowed to leave or interact with the 1st world, except under the most controlled circumstances.

Yep, the American left needs a communist paradise to lie about.

 

[pecksniff]

Yep, the American left needs a communist paradise to lie about.

I once saw a book on the stands called Hollywood's Favorite Dictator, and assumed it must be about Hitler because he's been in so many movies -- but, no, it was about Castro. I don't get it. I've never heard much pro-Cuba talk from the American left (and none at all from Hollywood, which is not really "left" in any meaningful sense) -- their health-care system (the only one in Latin America that does any original research) is admired, but that's about it.

 

[CornusKousa]

Yep, the American left needs a communist paradise to lie about.

"Progress" has to stay a legend.

Otherwise what are they selling??

 

[pecksniff]

"Progress" has to stay a legend.

Otherwise what are they selling??

Social democracy, of which you can find several highly successful real-life examples in free countries. (And yes, they remain free countries even if "hate speech" is prosecutable there.)