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artful

*His eyes as an Eagle's*
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(uhmmm,...I apologise up front for the misnomer)

I wanted to get ALL the attention I could, so this thread would be read. Funny how that word gets so much attention from everyone,...none of us can HARDLY ignore it can we.

THAT is the purpose of this thread though,...to get us ALL to abstain posting to potentially "HOT THREAD" topics and/or posts in inflammatory ways.

Whenever a THREAD topic strikes a "Raw Nerve" end,
the impulse to respond is IMMEDIATE,...our fingers can't seem to fly FAST enough to respond in some fashion.

Where we REALLY get into PROBLEMS,...is when we TELL people WHAT to do. Drop this subject! Move on! etc., or accuse them PERSONALLY of WRONG doing. "You said this,...and you said that"!

Hell,...maybe they DID,...but guess what folks,...
"W E R E A D T H A T T O O" ! ! !

Our emotions drive us,...not our logic. We hit the submit tab,...and it's too late. Edit? Well,..
we COULD but,...well you know how fast that top thread gets read and copied by people with opposing viewpoints.

THAT is another issue. If we don't want SOMEONE's
thread to be read, if we don't want the THREAD topic to develope into a "Flame War",...disrupting and polarizing the ENTIRE Forum,...lines drawn,...
sides to be taken etc. What do we DO?

Well,...common sense tells us, don't POST to that thread,(it will soon drift off the main page), and be out of our sight, but what do we end up doing?

Yep,...we post to it, now, WHERE does it put that THREAD? Right back at the TOP of our FIRST page,
...right where we don't want it! We break our own rules, and FURTHER the disruption, by posting to those threads.

Friends on one side or the other JUMP in,...then it gets REALLY personal. None of US need others to DEFEND our positions, and I certainly don't WANT anyone jumping in to DEFEND my opinion.

If you REALLY need to vent,...if possible,...send your PM,...that's ONE reason why it's there. It's a PRIVATE matter. Why dress one down in PUBLIC?
Think about it folks!

Yes,...some trolls, unregistereds, and a FEW others, will always come to stir the shit, but do WE really want to help them? There is never a WINNER in these things.

I read MOST every thread that is put up, and I respond to many,...but SOME,...I don't! I don't need, or want any posts to this THREAD,...but I will not be offended if they are made.

I just wanted to VENT in a respectful manner, and let ALL know,..."Hey,...I respect you,...whether or not we agree."

Post your threads,...post your thoughts, express your opinions and ask your questions. THAT'S what this Forum is for.

(JMHO)...but it's mine,...and I own it! :)
 
I love the Moderators.

They are beautiful and wise in their ways.

Lance "Stepford" Castor
 
I love it when you sound so dominating!

:D


*waves to artful*

I have posted to such threads with purpose and usually when they are already near the top.

I admit it.

Guilty as charged.

Now, do I get my spanking?

I would definitely recommend people ignore the crap and get on with BDSM.

Also, a second thought, there are times things get tense in here. Someone, and I can't remember who owns this thought, mentioned that part of the reason the flames are so hot is that this is intense subject matter to begin with.

I think we all need to get out once in a while. Go play on the SRP. Check out the GB or the personals. Whereever you find a cool place to hang your hat, a little break once in a while is a good thing!
 
Art, this thread is just one example of why you have my total respect. Thank you.
 
Wonderful way you summed everything up Art. You have my respect. :)

And I have to say -- I touched on a number of the same issues you brought up on a thread on the GB the other day. In that instance we were discussing meeting and knowing people from the 'net in R/L. But it happened to make sense in the course of the thread -- where I jumped in -- to share experiences I had on another board.

You're just so very, very right about this. It's human for us to have gut emotional reactions -- and I hardly think actually that the subjects on the bdsm board make it any more intense.

Lol, actually -- you all should spend sometime on a board that's 99% female aged 13-35 and mostly about fashion, romance, general gripping, etc., if you *seriously* want to see fur fly. I've NEVER seen anything like the anger, trolling, impostor posters like I saw there. It was literally equivalent to elementary school children making one or two fellow classmates their scapegoats.

People *literally* wrote a select member or two at their email addresses -- that they hoped they dropped dead and died. I kid you not. And it wasn't the teenagers who said those things -- it was the ones in their late 20's.

Boards touch raw nerves, people become intensely possessive about them -- no question about it.

Anyway, always lovely to have a voice of reason. And a timely and helpful reminder.

P. :rose:
 
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Art you are soo right.... and I have tried really hard these last few days not to do just that. To separate myself from all this flying fur and hope that we can, as Miss T so eloquently put it on another thread, get about the business of BDSM.

Alas I could not help myself and just had to finally say something... now I am feeling a little bad about letting myself get sucked into the mire...

Maybe I'll just turn off my computer for the night.... or I could go look at the jewelry on HSN.com... or maybe I'll just go over to the stockroom and look at those remote control vibrating eggs as a present for Himself since I upset him today....
 
cellis said:


Alas I could not help myself and just had to finally say something... now I am feeling a little bad about letting myself get sucked into the mire...


Yes, but you shouldn't cellis -- because Art just added to the same damn thread himself, lol.

Hey sometimes your voice needs to be heard -- for your own sake. Because discussion is healthy. We all pick our wars -- we all have to make the decision what fights to fight.

I have just as much respect for people who chose to avoid a subject they believe should die -- as I do for people who try to have a sane, intelligent, heartful response in the midst of dissension.

Do what you have to do -- and feel good about it afterwards.

Besides, it's only a board. (Btw, that was a joke -- isn't that what someone *always* says at some point?!?) ;)

P. :rose:
 
cellis

cellis said:
or maybe I'll just go over to the stockroom and look at those remote control vibrating eggs as a present for Himself since I upset him today....

I just GOTTA get a set of those remote(wireless), vibrating eggs,...can you tell me where I can get them on the net? :rose:
 
Re: cellis

artful said:


I just GOTTA get a set of those remote(wireless), vibrating eggs,...can you tell me where I can get them on the net? :rose:

Pst...Art....I put ya a link in the toy ref. :)

dixi
 
MissT

MissTaken said:

Guilty as charged.

Now, do I get my spanking?

Of course,...that was the only reason I started this thread,...be afraid,...be VERY afraid though, ...I am not a 'switch',...turn about is not fair play, and will NOT be tolerated.(*chuckle*):rose:
 
Re: Re: cellis

dixicritter said:


Pst...Art....I put ya a link in the toy ref. :)

dixi

Thanks Dixi,...Art is headed that way. :D :rose:
 
Re: MissT

artful said:


Of course,...that was the only reason I started this thread,...be afraid,...be VERY afraid though, ...I am not a 'switch',...turn about is not fair play, and will NOT be tolerated.(*chuckle*):rose:

Of course!

:)

Cellis!

hugs to you, hon.

Do what you have to do to feel good.

:)
 
Re: Re: Re: cellis

artful said:


Thanks Dixi,...Art is headed that way. :D :rose:


You are welcome......oh and I second Miss T's "I love it when you sound so dominating!"

:D

dixi
 
Okay, now somebody stop me!

I am so infuriated , my blood is boiling.

But I wont' post those scathing words that are jumping to mind.

I won't.
I promise.

If I do, do I get another spanking?

;)
 
MissTaken said:
Okay, now somebody stop me!

I am so infuriated , my blood is boiling.

But I wont' post those scathing words that are jumping to mind.

I won't.
I promise.

If I do, do I get another spanking?

;)

I'm sure we can find a Dom around here somewhere....

Hang in there Miss T.

:)
dixi
 
MissT

MissTaken said:

If I do, do I get another spanking?;)

Hmmm,...I doubt it. Sounds like you enjoyed the first one too much. :)

As regards your blood boiling,...really,...I understand and sympathize with you,...but we REALLY don't know who is stirring the shit.

Until we do,...I feel it is USELESS to respond to it,...it just fans the flames and adds to their <ahem>, "JOY".

Let me at this point correct a point that may have been incorrectly interpreted by some. I in no way meant for anyone not to post a mannerly response that MIGHT help alleviate the tenseness on a given thread or post.

(Quote from prior post as follows)

"THAT is the purpose of this thread though,...to get us ALL to abstain posting to
potentially "HOT THREAD" topics and/or posts in inflammatory ways."
Sorry for the confusion!
Thanks,...Art :rose:
 
Art - I don't think any post any of us would try to make on those threads would matter at this point. Of course this is my opinion.

I think you, Miss T, numerous others of us, myself included will be better off keeping out of it as much as we can, and continuing the good work we've been doing for the past few days. This is in no way suggesting that if one of us feels the need to respond to something we shouldn't do it. I've stated my opinions only, that's all.

I for one am going to ignore it, or take it to pm with the registered users. "Guests" and unregistereds will be invisible to me. This is how I will handle things for myself. I encourage others to handle things in their own ways.

:)
dixi
 
MissTaken said:
Okay, now somebody stop me!

I am so infuriated , my blood is boiling.

But I wont' post those scathing words that are jumping to mind.

I won't.
I promise.

If I do, do I get another spanking?

;)


MissT, I have a hard time believing you'd write anything truly scathing anywhere. I saw your apology on another thread, and I have to say you'd be the last person I'd pick to apologize for anything.

My own opinion is that speaking up is good. Joking about silliness is good.

Name calling and mean-spirited spitefulness is bad.
 
Sandia said:



MissT, I have a hard time believing you'd write anything truly scathing anywhere. I saw your apology on another thread, and I have to say you'd be the last person I'd pick to apologize for anything.

My own opinion is that speaking up is good. Joking about silliness is good.

Name calling and mean-spirited spitefulness is bad.

TWIT!




;) :p

On a serious note, it is possible to determine the identity of a troll.

Hmm how I wish I were the one with the wand to allow me to do so.

Thanks, dixi, sandia and artful! Looks like it was my turn for a bit of moral support!

hugs
 
MissT

MissTaken said:
Thanks, dixi, sandia and artful! Looks like it was my turn for a bit of moral support!

hugs

Art hugz ya back. Keep on truckin',...you are doing great. If I had that wand,...I would use it
but,...then on second thought,...I guess it's better that I don't. As with all things,...sooner or later,...things upright themselves, but like so many others,...I just wished it would be SOONER!:)
 
MissTaken said:


Thanks, dixi, sandia and artful! Looks like it was my turn for a bit of moral support!

hugs

Hugs back at ya Miss T.....think nothing of it.

:rose:
dixi
 
I want

to start a thread entitled ....

On my honour, I promise that I ....


and list out things I will do to try and make this a better place.

And yet I hesitate to do so ... why? Because I am afraid that it will just turn into another unholy row.
My gut instinct right now is to stay right away from Lit - I am not strong enough to see something I care a whole lot for being torn into shreads. And yet, again and again, I find myself coming back - just for a look - just to see if by some miricle things have improved and we are back on course.

So many good people have ceased to post here. That is a crying shame.

I hope and pray that this rift heals itself quickly - but I fear it will not.
 
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