Freedom in Submission
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I love this topic
I think there is nothing more liberating to a sub than to surrender to her Dom. It involves a lot of trust and faith and love that the Dom uses that gift in the precious manner that it is given.
There has to be a deep caring for the sub to be able to do this. It was one of the most wonderful feelings of my life. I hope to have it again someday.
Once the sub has surrendered herself (in my case it's a her- lol) she is allowed to be a source of pleasure and able to give that pleasure. That is something that I miss right now: not being able to be that or give that to someone special.
I am anxious to hear others opinions on this topic. You know, I am here to learn.
Rose
I think there is nothing more liberating to a sub than to surrender to her Dom. It involves a lot of trust and faith and love that the Dom uses that gift in the precious manner that it is given.
There has to be a deep caring for the sub to be able to do this. It was one of the most wonderful feelings of my life. I hope to have it again someday.
Once the sub has surrendered herself (in my case it's a her- lol) she is allowed to be a source of pleasure and able to give that pleasure. That is something that I miss right now: not being able to be that or give that to someone special.
I am anxious to hear others opinions on this topic. You know, I am here to learn.
Rose
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I was explaining to my new friend tonight that until D/s, I didn't know how, nor could I express my needs.
Until D/s, I didn't realize I had a right to expect that these needs be met.
Until D/s, I repeatedly fumbled the ball and never got a touchdown.
I have found freedom of expression.
Until D/s, I didn't realize I had a right to expect that these needs be met.
Until D/s, I repeatedly fumbled the ball and never got a touchdown.
I have found freedom of expression.
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MissTaken said:
For me; this leads back to the thread on unconditional love. Because I love MY-Sir without conditions, I trust HIM to take care of me. Therefore giving me freedom to submit to HIS desires totally. HIS desires are ultimately my desires. HE and I are on the same page when it comes to one another's passions.
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Don't you also think, that a sub has a need or desire to express that part of her personality? And once she (again, I use she because I am one lol) is able to, she is free?
Well, anyway I think so. But I do know that I have lots to learn about being a good sub.
Rose
Well, anyway I think so. But I do know that I have lots to learn about being a good sub.
Rose
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A Desert Rose said:Don't you also think, that a sub has a need or desire to express that part of her personality? And once she (again, I use she because I am one lol) is able to, she is free?
Well, anyway I think so. But I do know that I have lots to learn about being a good sub.
Rose
I agree with you Rose, it all boils down to good communication between a sub and her(yes I am one too) Dom. That is the basis of MY-Sir's and my relationship. We talk about our desires. In other words, we don't pull any punches when it involves what we want. To me, that is true freedom.
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MY-Sir's-k- said:
I agree with you Rose, it all boils down to good communication between a sub and her(yes I am one too) Dom. That is the basis of MY-Sir's and my relationship. We talk about our desires. In other words, we don't pull any punches when it involves what we want. To me, that is true freedom.
~~~~~~~~~That has always been the hardest part for me- expressing what it is that I want. My last Dom was not the least bit concerned about what pleased me. It was all about being "HIS" how and whenever he wanted me.
Therefore, I don't know how to ask. But I know how to give.
Rose
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A Desert Rose said:
~~~~~~~~~That has always been the hardest part for me- expressing what it is that I want. My last Dom was not the least bit concerned about what pleased me. It was all about being "HIS" how and whenever he wanted me.
Therefore, I don't know how to ask. But I know how to give.
Rose
Sister, I have been there in the past. Keep the faith and know that the right man/Dom is out there looking for you!
I went thru years of all of the wrong partners until I was united with MY-Sir. I was almost to the point of giving up ever finding someone who would understand me. Not saying HE understands me fully! ( I tend to run by instinct, where as HE is more logic); but in most ways HE knows what motivates me. That to me is very liberating!
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He never appreciated the gift of submission (which is a topic for another thread) and although I felt free to give him every part of me, I was never free to ask or express any of my concerns or desires.
So then, I really wasn't free, was I? HUMMMMM theres a thought I never had before now........
Rose
So then, I really wasn't free, was I? HUMMMMM theres a thought I never had before now........
Rose
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I don't think amy man........
would EVER be naive enough to suggest he understood a woman fully.
I mean....how on earth DO you understand them?? I reckon rocket science is easy by comparison. ( just my little joke ladies....simmer down )
Seriously...it is that communication thing again. The better the communication, the better the relationship ( or the playing !! >>evil leer<<<)
Dave
would EVER be naive enough to suggest he understood a woman fully.
I mean....how on earth DO you understand them?? I reckon rocket science is easy by comparison. ( just my little joke ladies....simmer down )
Seriously...it is that communication thing again. The better the communication, the better the relationship ( or the playing !! >>evil leer<<<)
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Damn,...
...I just LOVE it when I see a "light bulb" get switched on!
A Desert Rose said:He never appreciated the gift of submission (which is a topic for another thread) and although I felt free to give him every part of me, I was never free to ask or express any of my concerns or desires.
So then, I really wasn't free, was I? HUMMMMM theres a thought I never had before now........
Rose
...I just LOVE it when I see a "light bulb" get switched on!
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Yea, that was an eye opener for me. I am still thinking on it...
I feel good at realizing this after all this time.
Rose
I feel good at realizing this after all this time.
Rose
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tell me about it ADR...
Until I had the freedomto express MY wants and MY needs and desires as a sub I was truly a slave (in the worst way)
In my "vanilla'relationships only My partner was getting pleased...noone was really there to take care of ME ..even me,myself,,I was always so worried to make sure my husband or partner at the time,"got off" that it never really mattered if I did or not,well what a waste of my time!!
NOW i feel free to express my sexuality,be proud about it,discuss it and even become more educated about it..I FEEL FREE TO BE "ME' .the REAL me..not so and so's "wife" or jack-off Jim's piece of meat..ME!! DreamIS ME....I fee FREE being Artful's submissive slave..IRONIC,hey? He makes me feel loved,desired ad cared for more than i have EVER felt in my life..Freedom is being allowed to be "who you are,and accepted as such" I am accepted,I am loved,I am free ~
the cravings,yearnings from within my very soul are all now bein fulfilled...I am a lucky woman..My Master freed me by binding my heart to His...
Until I had the freedomto express MY wants and MY needs and desires as a sub I was truly a slave (in the worst way)
In my "vanilla'relationships only My partner was getting pleased...noone was really there to take care of ME ..even me,myself,,I was always so worried to make sure my husband or partner at the time,"got off" that it never really mattered if I did or not,well what a waste of my time!!
NOW i feel free to express my sexuality,be proud about it,discuss it and even become more educated about it..I FEEL FREE TO BE "ME' .the REAL me..not so and so's "wife" or jack-off Jim's piece of meat..ME!! DreamIS ME....I fee FREE being Artful's submissive slave..IRONIC,hey? He makes me feel loved,desired ad cared for more than i have EVER felt in my life..Freedom is being allowed to be "who you are,and accepted as such" I am accepted,I am loved,I am free
~ the cravings,yearnings from within my very soul are all now bein fulfilled...I am a lucky woman..My Master freed me by binding my heart to His...
~Dream~
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NO disrespect meant here..
but yess Miss T ..it's kinda like Master Artful said Dream,CUMM to the Dark Side' lol and I was curious like a good jedi and wanted to go check out His "LIGHTSABER" lol ROFLMFAO sorry I could Not resist..
MissTaken said:
but yess Miss T ..it's kinda like Master Artful said Dream,CUMM to the Dark Side' lol
and I was curious like a good jedi and wanted to go check out His "LIGHTSABER" lol ROFLMFAO sorry I could Not resist..A Desert Rose
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Re: tell me about it ADR...
~~~~~~~~`Beautiful post, Dream. You are indeed a lucky woman.
Love, Rose
Artful's dream said:Until I had the freedomto express MY wants and MY needs and desires as a sub I was truly a slave (in the worst way)
In my "vanilla'relationships only My partner was getting pleased...noone was really there to take care of ME ..even me,myself,,I was always so worried to make sure my husband or partner at the time,"got off" that it never really mattered if I did or not,well what a waste of my time!!
NOW i feel free to express my sexuality,be proud about it,discuss it and even become more educated about it..I FEEL FREE TO BE "ME' .the REAL me..not so and so's "wife" or jack-off Jim's piece of meat..ME!! DreamIS ME....I fee FREE being Artful's submissive slave..IRONIC,hey? He makes me feel loved,desired ad cared for more than i have EVER felt in my life..Freedom is being allowed to be "who you are,and accepted as such" I am accepted,I am loved,I am free
the cravings,yearnings from within my very soul are all now bein fulfilled...I am a lucky woman..My Master freed me by binding my heart to His...
~~~~~~~~`Beautiful post, Dream. You are indeed a lucky woman.
Love, Rose
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I have found that I enjoy giving, but I have trouble with the receiving, when I feel that my pleasure is in fact giving pleasure to the person I am with, only then can I let go and enjoy myself.
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MissTaken said:
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Great observation and I wish I had thought to say that
It is true.
That I can't "loosen up" with anyone who doesn't gain pleasure from mine.
The problem I have found in my relationships is that my partners don't have the self control to not take advantage of my desire to give and usually end up taking advantage and becoming selfish. But through the exploration of D/s I have found the freedom to ask for what I need and want and I am at a point where I won't accept my desire to give being taken as a weakness and used against me anymore.... Sorry my 2 cents worth I suppose
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The freedome I can only hope my darling pet finds in submitting to me ...
The freedom to be herself, not to worry about what others think of her and her actions, because the only meassure for her value is my approval or disapproval - and she will get that very directly from me, so there is no need to "assume - guess - wonder".
The freedom to be herself, enjoying all the pleasures she is given without guilt, becasue she knows it is not for her but for me in the end.
The freedom to be herself, no need to simulate, to pretend, to play nice, becasue I own her, body and soul, and there is nothing to hide anymore anyway. Plus she owns me that honesty, so there must not be facades put up.
The freedom to be herself, because her place is set, determined, clearly lined out. She needs not struggle to conquer her role in this world anymore because she has found it alreready.
And the freedom to become herself - because I am the one taking her places she wouldn't dare going on her own.
The freedom to be herself, not to worry about what others think of her and her actions, because the only meassure for her value is my approval or disapproval - and she will get that very directly from me, so there is no need to "assume - guess - wonder".
The freedom to be herself, enjoying all the pleasures she is given without guilt, becasue she knows it is not for her but for me in the end.
The freedom to be herself, no need to simulate, to pretend, to play nice, becasue I own her, body and soul, and there is nothing to hide anymore anyway. Plus she owns me that honesty, so there must not be facades put up.
The freedom to be herself, because her place is set, determined, clearly lined out. She needs not struggle to conquer her role in this world anymore because she has found it alreready.
And the freedom to become herself - because I am the one taking her places she wouldn't dare going on her own.
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This is a brilliant topic, peoples. And Mistress, I owe you spankings
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Little Girl said:
The problem I have found in my relationships is that my partners don't have the self control to not take advantage of my desire to give and usually end up taking advantage and becoming selfish. But through the exploration of D/s I have found the freedom to ask for what I need and want and I am at a point where I won't accept my desire to give being taken as a weakness and used against me anymore.... Sorry my 2 cents worth I suppose
NO need to apologize.
We are definitely on the same page and btw
welcome to the forum!
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MissTaken said:
NO need to apologize.
We are definitely on the same page and btw
welcome to the forum!
Thank you, Since I have decided to persue a D/s relationship I decided it would probably be helpful to talk to people who have some experience (at least more then I do) and make sure if I have questions I ask them. The man I will be exploring with is currently overseas and isn't due to return until the end of the month; however he does have some experience and I am looking forward to exploring. The nice thing is, we have been friends for awhile and just recently relized our common interest when he went to my poetry site and started reading. He knows I am a hand full at the very least and a total hurrican at the worst, but I feel certain he is capable of putting me in check
Which is really what I want and need. A man who can dominate me and still respect me and as he says earn my respect and trust with everything he does...... Wish me luck on my new adventure
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Certainly!
Best of luck and wishes and hugs and tingly nights in your new venture. How exciting!!!!!
You came to the right place, for sure. Ask anything and don't apologize.
We were all exploring one time, and are still in many respects.
How wonderful to be able to explore with someone that you knew OUTSIDE of D/s first.
I truly believe that if their is no relationship exlusive of D/s, the D/s won't work.
hugs to you
Best of luck and wishes and hugs and tingly nights in your new venture. How exciting!!!!!
You came to the right place, for sure. Ask anything and don't apologize.
We were all exploring one time, and are still in many respects.
How wonderful to be able to explore with someone that you knew OUTSIDE of D/s first.
I truly believe that if their is no relationship exlusive of D/s, the D/s won't work.
hugs to you
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Little Girl said:
He knows I am a hand full at the very least and a total hurrican at the worst, but I feel certain he is capable of putting me in check
Little Girl; I can relate to your statement 100%. I have always been a very independent type of woman. But over the years, I realized that I also wanted to have a man whom I respected and trusted to dominate me. I found that man in MY-Sir. HE has opened doors for me that were once only dreamed of.
I wish you all of the best in your relationship and hope that it blooms into the most beautiful flower of love
Blessings to you sister-sub.
