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Are you referring to the war between France and England?

Yeah France did rule England at one point did it not? and the royal families lineage comes from France, right?

and it probably explains a lot of the French words in English.

Don't take this too literally, chaps, but:-

For a few short centuries after the Romans left, England had no trouble. Oh, we got raided by Saxons, Jutes and so on but not a lot else. Come 1066 (a time that will live in infamy) and Duke William, (a..k.a. William the Bastard) decided to assimilate England.
King 'Arrold, seasoned campaigner and of Danish extraction, had been forced to repel his brother's attempts at seizing the crown, marched swiftly south to meet William.

Unfortunately, William had the better-trained men, and 'Arrold's mob ran down the hill and were swiftly put to the sword by the waiting men of William.

It took a couple of centuries to truly insinuate Norman French into the English language (which itself was a mixture of languages), and to this day, there are those who can and will truly curse the French, who are still regarded as "the old enemy".

But it takes a good and wise King, aided and abetted by good & true Councillors and a well-oiled Tax system.
Tax ?
in France ? -
never!

The result as what amounted to a running argument between members of the same damned family in difficult parts of England /France (which was itself not unified). England was 'only' a Lord or something in France and owed the King of France fealty as a vassal.

This feeling of 'depression' lasted for about a hundred years.
England beat France in military exchanges (Crecy, Poitiers and Agincourt, but the French, having more resources, won at three other engagements (England was suffering from very bad leadership).

And so it went on until the Wars of the Roses.

So it ain't quite so easy saying England was ruled by France; we weren't,
even if we had a King with French antecedents.
 
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Don't take this too literally, chaps, but:-

For a few short centuries after the Romans left, England had no trouble. Oh, we got raided by Saxons, Jutes and so on but not a lot else. Come 1066 (a time that will live in infamy) and Duke William, (a..k.a. William the Bastard) decided to assimilate England.
King 'Arrold, seasoned campaigner and of Danish extraction, had been forced to repel his brother's attempts at seizing the crown, marched swiftly south to meet William.

Unfortunately, William had the better-trained men, and 'Arrold's mob ran down the hill and were swiftly put to the sword by the waiting men of William.

It took a couple of centuries to truly insinuate Norman French into the English language (which itself was a mixture of languages), and to this day, there are those who can and will truly curse the French, who are still regarded as "the old enemy".

But it takes a good and wise King, aided and abetted by good & true Councillors and a well-oiled Tax system.
Tax ?
in France ? -
never!

The result as what amounted to a running argument between members of the same damned family in difficult parts of England /France (which was itself not unified). England was 'only' a Lord or something in France and owed the King of France fealty as a vassal.

This feeling of 'depression' lasted for about a hundred years.
England beet France in military exchanges (Crecy, Poitiers and Agincourt, but the French, having more resources, won at three other engagements (England was suffering from very bad leadership).

And so it went on until the Wars of the Roses.

So it ain't quite so easy saying England was ruled by France; we weren't,
even if we had a King with French antecedents.

Gosh! A whole termsworth of third form history in less than a page. Well done, HP. :)
 
Gosh; many thanks for the compliments.
I once had to explain Agincourt to a 14 year-old. That was real fun!
It's illustrated well HERE.
 
I definitely steered clear of current politics. And no I didn't go back that far; I didn't want to (a) bore them and (b) totally Confucius them.

Is Confucius ancient too?

'Bout 500BC, I think.

But I think you could talk about the Athenian theory. you know - one man, one vote ?
Strictly in abstract terms, of course.
Good Luck with it!
 
I definitely steered clear of current politics. And no I didn't go back that far; I didn't want to (a) bore them and (b) totally Confucius them.

Is Confucius ancient too?

Confucius says: "Wise man knows age is but a matter of perspective. At 15, 40 seems ancient, but at 60, 75 no longer seems very old at all."

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