Free Association Thread 4

[Handley_Page]

and at the right time...

btw JKD...your Pop quiz! You have a five and an ace. Dealer is showing a five. Hit or stand?

Hit, certainly! (decide to hit again if it's still low or stand if it's 20 - 21 is better of course)

I don't think I understood more that 3 words. . . .

 

[JKendallDane]

and at the right time...

btw JKD...your Pop quiz! You have a five and an ace. Dealer is showing a five. Hit or stand?

Hit, certainly! (decide to hit again if it's still low or stand if it's 20 - 21 is better of course)

I don't think I understood more that 3 words. . . .

It's blackjack player lingo, HP. Part of the real fun of playing that game of chance is that it makes you work your mind on hands like that...and turn "game of chance" into "game of skill."

Anybody can mindlessly feed a slot machine and yank the handle. With casinos, I prefer games where I have a part in making my own luck.

(And Michael...exactly how I would play it. Dealer has to hit and odds of a bust are in your favor. The worst that can happen with "your" hand is to get a ten or face card and end up with a sixteen...which is still good odds with the dealer showing a five.)

Back to the regularly scheduled post of HP's...

Three Blind Mice

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[Tio_Narratore]

and at the right time...

btw JKD...your Pop quiz! You have a five and an ace. Dealer is showing a five. Hit or stand?

Hit, certainly! (decide to hit again if it's still low or stand if it's 20 - 21 is better of course)

I don't think I understood more that 3 words. . . .

No, Michael. The odds call for a stand. The best dealer can do on his draw is a match, so he'll have to hit, and you win if he draws above five, and that's 8-to-5 likely. If you draw, the same odds are in favour of him. Now, if you've been counting the cards, you can make a better decision, but are likely to get tossed from the house (at best).

Did that help, HP?

 

[JKendallDane]

No, Michael. The odds call for a stand. The best dealer can do on his draw is a match, so he'll have to hit, and you win if he draws above five, and that's 8-to-5 likely. If you draw, the same odds are in favour of him. Now, if you've been counting the cards, you can make a better decision, but are likely to get tossed from the house (at best).

Did that help, HP?

I gotta disagree, Tio. With a five and ace on the deal, you have a six or sixteen. Take the hit and while certainly hoping for a five, worst case scenario is you end up back at sixteen, and you let the dealer bust.

Course, I don't make a living playing blackjack, so I could be wrong about that strategy.

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[Tio_Narratore]

I gotta disagree, Tio. With a five and ace on the deal, you have a six or sixteen. Take the hit and while certainly hoping for a five, worst case scenario is you end up back at sixteen, and you let the dealer bust.

Course, I don't make a living playing blackjack, so I could be wrong about that strategy.

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It really depends on counting the cards, JKD. If it's just you and the dealer, it's close to an even match, depending on the dealer's next draw. If there's other hands out, you can better the odds by counting what's showing, but the dealer can )and will) do the same.

Yes, I like skill over chance, too. But Blackjack has come down to an algorithm (though banned). I still prefer five-card draw. A nice mix of mathematical skill, psycho-social skill, and luck. Opportunistic, I call it: do you have the skills to take advantage of the luck of the draw. It's done me well over the years.

 

[NaokoSmith]

It really depends on counting the cards, JKD. If it's just you and the dealer, it's close to an even match, depending on the dealer's next draw. If there's other hands out, you can better the odds by counting what's showing, but the dealer can )and will) do the same.

Yes, I like skill over chance, too. But Blackjack has come down to an algorithm (though banned). I still prefer five-card draw. A nice mix of mathematical skill, psycho-social skill, and luck. Opportunistic, I call it: do you have the skills to take advantage of the luck of the draw. It's done me well over the years.

Remember these?

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.childofthe1980s.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F01%2Fblack-jack-fruit-salad.jpg&f=1

'Lo Sugar
I can see you coming down the threads, Sam!

 

[Handley_Page]

No, Michael. The odds call for a stand. The best dealer can do on his draw is a match, so he'll have to hit, and you win if he draws above five, and that's 8-to-5 likely. If you draw, the same odds are in favour of him. Now, if you've been counting the cards, you can make a better decision, but are likely to get tossed from the house (at best).

Did that help, HP?

I gotta disagree, Tio. With a five and ace on the deal, you have a six or sixteen. Take the hit and while certainly hoping for a five, worst case scenario is you end up back at sixteen, and you let the dealer bust.

Course, I don't make a living playing blackjack, so I could be wrong about that strategy.

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This is too much like hard thinking.
I take it that "game theory" might well rear its ugly head sometime ?
I was never very good at maths; cards floor me (although I used to play Bridge at one time). My son really lost it when we played Dominoes one evening. I didn't play what he thought was logical (he claimed later that he could not get a feel for my hand (he's a natural).

Now, ask me how a 'series hard-valve stabiliser' works and I'll do that in a heartbeat.

 

[SamScribble]

Now, ask me how a 'series hard-valve stabiliser' works and I'll do that in a heartbeat.

I might need a clue here, HP. Something to do with cars? Radios? Computers (of the old kind)?

 

[MichaelinChina]

I might need a clue here, HP. Something to do with cars? Radios? Computers (of the old kind)?

Radio controlled car? (Used to have a RC Lamborghini Countach, put together from a kit) - superceded now by off the shelf toy helicopters and drones (I want one of each now).

btw I enjoyed the little logically argued dispute above about blackjack.
Probably why I am not a pro gambler and just a humble teacher.

 

[JKendallDane]

It really depends on counting the cards, JKD. If it's just you and the dealer, it's close to an even match, depending on the dealer's next draw. If there's other hands out, you can better the odds by counting what's showing, but the dealer can )and will) do the same.

Yes, I like skill over chance, too. But Blackjack has come down to an algorithm (though banned). I still prefer five-card draw. A nice mix of mathematical skill, psycho-social skill, and luck. Opportunistic, I call it: do you have the skills to take advantage of the luck of the draw. It's done me well over the years.

I can see what you mean. I have always just run with the odds the dealer will bust 75% of the time with a five showing. I've walked away with $400 bucks of the casino's money on a three dollar table and also dropped my total $100 stake for the night in twenty minutes on a cruise ship table, so I definitely am at the bottom end of amateur player status. Poker and I are fine when it's a friendly nickel, dime, quarter game. Get me with serious players in a casino and I become a total spectator that can't even afford the ante by the fifth hand.

Radio controlled car? (Used to have a RC Lamborghini Countach, put together from a kit) - superceded now by off the shelf toy helicopters and drones (I want one of each now).

btw I enjoyed the little logically argued dispute above about blackjack.
Probably why I am not a pro gambler and just a humble teacher.

I grew up with the old 1960's gas powered tethered planes and Cox "fire-em-up-and-cut-em loose" gas powered cars of the early 70's. The drones totally fascinate me but haven't bought so far. Plus, knowing my luck, I'd manage to fly it across the final approach to the Blue Angels' runway at NAS and get a bill for a couple of F/A-18 Hornets.

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[SamScribble]

The drones totally fascinate me but haven't bought so far. Plus, knowing my luck, I'd manage to fly it across the final approach to the Blue Angels' runway at NAS and get a bill for a couple of F/A-18 Hornets.

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Presumably, JKD, you'd only have to pay the depreciated value of the Hornets.

 

[Handley_Page]

I might need a clue here, HP. Something to do with cars? Radios? Computers (of the old kind)?

It's Radio".
In fact it's old-fashioned Valve (tube) radios; pre transistor, let alone IC chips.
Sometimes it is necessary to have a really good, stable, voltage for some sensitive bit of kit. The Stabiliser is the thing to do it, requiring three valves, a fair bit of chassis space and a sometimes issuing a generous quantity of heat..
We used them in an Aircraft radio I trained on.
The modern Voltage Regulator chip works in exactly the same way. . .

Is that any clearer ?

 

[MichaelinChina]

It's Radio".
In fact it's old-fashioned Valve (tube) radios; pre transistor, let alone IC chips.
Sometimes it is necessary to have a really good, stable, voltage for some sensitive bit of kit. The Stabiliser is the thing to do it, requiring three valves, a fair bit of chassis space and a sometimes issuing a generous quantity of heat..
We used them in an Aircraft radio I trained on.
The modern Voltage Regulator chip works in exactly the same way. . .

Is that any clearer ?

Clear as mud HP

A picture tells a thousand words.

 

[Handley_Page]

Clear as mud HP

A picture tells a thousand words.

That's just what I thought until I had to explain it to the class for the third time

 

[MichaelinChina]

That's just what I thought until I had to explain it to the class for the third time

When I have 5 classes all getting the same lesson, it's always the first class who have to endure my fumbling explanations. By week's end it's a well-rehearsed routine.

 

[Handley_Page]

When I have 5 classes all getting the same lesson, it's always the first class who have to endure my fumbling explanations. By week's end it's a well-rehearsed routine.

Teaching Series Hard-valve Stabilisers ?

 

[MichaelinChina]

Teaching Series Hard-valve Stabilisers ?

I don't think I understood more that [sic] 3 words. . . .(to quote the first post on this page)

 

[loquere]

I don't think I understood more that [sic] 3 words. . . .(to quote the first post on this page)

Oxford English Dictionary.

 

[Handley_Page]

Oxford English Dictionary.

I hear that the Collins is considered quite good.

 

[SamScribble]

I hear that the Collins is considered quite good.

Tom Collins

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...agen.jpg/1024px-Tom_Collins_in_Copenhagen.jpg

 

[Handley_Page]

Tom Collins

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...agen.jpg/1024px-Tom_Collins_in_Copenhagen.jpg

That'll do nicely, thanks.

 

[loquere]

That'll do nicely, thanks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQtzV9IZ0Q

 

[Handley_Page]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQtzV9IZ0Q

A a ah. . .

 

[MichaelinChina]

A a ah. . .

B....be...bee....beeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[loquere]

B....be...bee....beeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Been there done that.