Forced Intoxication

[Etoile]

coming back to this exact topic just kind of blows

Er, sorry...with the reactions I've been getting, I also wish I hadn't made the thread. But I'm a well-behaved mod and won't disappear my own threads just because I'm embarrassed by them.

 

[BiBunny]

Ok, yeah, I hate my job, but posting the man's shit out there for free that he makes money off of is shitty.

Oh, and let me fill y'all in on a little something. These people are NOT the characters they portray. If they were, I'd be a 115-pound brunette sorority girl who's 19 years old, but somehow miraculously knows everything their is to know about pretty much every fetish known to man. Do you know why they do this ridiculous shit? Because people out there are willing to pay for it. None--and I do mean none--of my characters are even remotely realistic because the customers get enough of reality without having to pay for it.

This shit is seriously pissing me off right now, so I'm just going to walk away for awhile.

 

[Etoile]

Ok, yeah, I hate my job, but posting the man's shit out there for free that he makes money off of is shitty.

If you're referring to me posting his $5 LiveJournal address, it was a matter of googling "banker dave livejournal" and I feel no shame for having done so. It's not like it was hard - he is the first result.

 

[Keroin]

For me, the world of phone sex is utterly foreign. I have no idea what is the norm. None. If I happened across that dude's website in passing, I would have assumed he's the real deal...or, you know, "real" by internet standards. I've seen crazier in real life.

Actually, the world of paying for orgasms, through whatever medium, is utterly foreign to me as well.

And while I don't promote stealing intellectual property, he didn't lose my $5 because I would never, ever have paid it.

 

[Etoile]

And while I don't promote stealing intellectual property, he didn't lose my $5 because I would never, ever have paid it.

I am pretty sure the concept of a URL as intellectual property would NOT stand up in court. I didn't steal anything. He's charging money for something that is available for free. It's like when your phone company charges you for calling 411. Could you google the info? Yes. Will your phone company charge you to google it for you? Yes.

 

[JMohegan]

So I ran to Google, and I came across Forced-Intoxication.com wherein lovely ladies get paid by guys who want to relinquish their power and feel they need booze to do it. At least, that's what this description of forced intoxication says. Apparently forced intoxication clients like to get drunk and then do stupid, humiliating things on cam for their mistresses...among other things.

So...can we discuss this?

I've done this, on a very limited basis, though not for cash and as a control rather than humiliation thing.

In its own way, it's entertaining. But I don't generally find blotto females attractive, so from a sexual point of view it ultimately wasn't all that appealing.

 

[ImOnIt]

Do you know why they do this ridiculous shit? Because people out there are willing to pay for it.

Right. I'm reacting to the ridiculous shit. The website is horrendous. Second: the lanuage used on the website. While I (now) realise it's not trying to pursuade people, it fills someone's existing kinky niche. I read it as trying to entice people in.

Banker Dave's website seems predatory, like problem gambling. I wouldn't be kosher with my sister, my parents, my best friend shitting away their money in twenties and fifties to turn the pixels from brown to sparkly gold, and I react to this website totally different than I would to them seeing pro-banker-dommes irl. I get this obsessive, frantic vibe from that site that turns me right off. (yes not my kink).

I've just read the livejournal and I can tell he's a bit interactive and providing a service to his subscribers. I totally missed that on the website.

 

[JMohegan]

Banker Dave's website seems predatory, like problem gambling. I wouldn't be kosher with my sister, my parents, my best friend shitting away their money in twenties and fifties to turn the pixels from brown to sparkly gold, and I react to this website totally different than I would to them seeing pro-banker-dommes irl.

My nephew went through a phase in which he was heavily into Xbox Live gaming. He actually wanted to pay real dollars to buy virtual weapons, power points, or some other damn things, to give him an advantage in whatever shit he was doing with other online players.

He was 14 at the time, and fortunately grew out of it. But there must be adults who do the same sort of thing with online gaming.

Sex/violence distinction aside, what's the difference between Banker Dave and online gaming? I bet there are now many forms of online entertainment involving actual cash forked over for ephemeral virtual stuff.

 

[Etoile]

My nephew went through a phase in which he was heavily into Xbox Live gaming. He actually wanted to pay real dollars to buy virtual weapons, power points, or some other damn things, to give him an advantage in whatever shit he was doing with other online players.

He was 14 at the time, and fortunately grew out of it. But there must be adults who do the same sort of thing with online gaming.

Sex/violence distinction aside, what's the difference between Banker Dave and online gaming? I bet there are now many forms of online entertainment involving actual cash forked over for ephemeral virtual stuff.

World of Warcraft and Second Life are prime examples.

 

[ImOnIt]

I assume by virtual weapons you mean additional content/maps/more game to play. These are either expansions to an existing game, where they sell you the content, or B - they don't charge for the content, but you can opt to pay the developers and get some kind of in-game symbol to represent this.


Banker Dave is not similar to computer games.

1- He's a service top.
2- See one.

 

[Etoile]

I assume by virtual weapons you mean additional content/maps/more game to play. These are either expansions to an existing game, where they sell you the content, or B - they don't charge for the content, but you can opt to pay the developers and get some kind of in-game symbol to represent this.


Banker Dave is not similar to computer games.

1- He's a service top.
2- See one.

I think this is what JMohegan was referring to:
http://games.venturebeat.com/2009/0...al-goods-are-virtual-money-weapons-and-gifts/

 

[JMohegan]

I assume by virtual weapons you mean additional content/maps/more game to play. These are either expansions to an existing game, where they sell you the content, or B - they don't charge for the content, but you can opt to pay the developers and get some kind of in-game symbol to represent this.


Banker Dave is not similar to computer games.

1- He's a service top.
2- See one.

I don't see your point, either 1 or 2.

Handing over cash for virtual entertainment is handing over cash for virtual entertainment. Whether you're virtually blowing shit up or virtually servicing a top. Just different kinds of thrills.

 

[Etoile]

Oh, and see also: Farmville. TONS of people pay real money for Farmville. You don't HAVE to, I'm pretty sure you can play it without real money, but many people looooove their farms and do pay cash. So yeah, pixels are pixels, whether they're on a virtual altar or virtual corn.

 

[redheadedtxn]

hmmm... Master does NOT force me to get drunk, but He does get a kick out of me tipsy. Although He is wise and never pushes much during scenes when i'm drunk. That is saved for when i am completely sober. But W/we have fun regardless

 

[JMohegan]

I think this is what JMohegan was referring to:
http://games.venturebeat.com/2009/0...al-goods-are-virtual-money-weapons-and-gifts/

There you go - now we can give it all a name.

"Digital goods." Wow.

 

[BiBunny]

I don't see your point, either 1 or 2.

Handing over cash for virtual entertainment is handing over cash for virtual entertainment. Whether you're virtually blowing shit up or virtually servicing a top. Just different kinds of thrills.

Right. Entertainment is entertainment. I guarantee you this guy doesn't buy into his bullshit, and he doesn't expect anyone else to, either, unless they're calling him.

 

[LuvStrange69]

WTFuckity Fuck...

Made this whole thread. Ha!
New one to me, and I hope the author won't mind my borrowing of it.
WTFuckity Fuck?
Just had to say / type it again

 

[YourCaptor]

hmmm... Master does NOT force me to get drunk, but He does get a kick out of me tipsy. Although He is wise and never pushes much during scenes when i'm drunk. That is saved for when i am completely sober. But W/we have fun regardless

On this subject, phones sex and money aside.

I got a fantasy of getting the SO so drunk she passes out and/or has a 10 second lag time, then have my fun with her body.

It's a neat idea, seems like a one time thing though. An oh lets try this kind of thing.

 

[satindesire]

hmmm... Master does NOT force me to get drunk, but He does get a kick out of me tipsy. Although He is wise and never pushes much during scenes when i'm drunk. That is saved for when i am completely sober. But W/we have fun regardless

You -do- understand that doing the whole W/we thing is totally unnecessary, right? No one is going to get pissed off at you for 'not being inclusive' with your typing.

 

[Etoile]

You -do- understand that doing the whole W/we thing is totally unnecessary, right? No one is going to get pissed off at you for 'not being inclusive' with your typing.

I usually figure that "inclusive" applies to other people. Like, don't do that for ME. But I figured she was doing that for - er - T/them.
*ducks*

 

[satindesire]

I usually figure that "inclusive" applies to other people. Like, don't do that for ME. But I figured she was doing that for - er - T/them.
*ducks*

*shakes fist* Don't you start doing that shit, either, you brat! I will whale the tar outta yer hide faster than a cat can run through an open door, I tell you what!

Edit:

Look what you did, you made me get all country on you, now. I swear to God!!!!

 

[Etoile]

*shakes fist* Don't you start doing that shit, either, you brat! I will whale the tar outta yer hide faster than a cat can run through an open door, I tell you what!

Edit:

Look what you did, you made me get all country on you, now. I swear to God!!!!

And it was cute, too!

 

[satindesire]

And it was cute, too!

Oh, whatever.

 

[Primalex]

You -do- understand that doing the whole W/we thing is totally unnecessary, right?

And do you understand that your posting is totally unnecessary?

No one is going to get pissed off at you for 'not being inclusive' with your typing.

Sad that some people get pissed off if you choose it.

 

[graceanne]

I usually figure that "inclusive" applies to other people. Like, don't do that for ME. But I figured she was doing that for - er - T/them.
*ducks*

D/dude. W/we know where Y/ou live.