For Todd's eyes only

[WriterDom]

Fundamentalist like Todd reject evaluation instead believing that God snapped his holy fingers and created everything in 6 days. And I guess if you were God you wouldn't need to follow natural law to create. But why did God go through all the trouble to have Noah build this huge ship filled with two of every bug, every fish, every bird, every reptile, every mammal, and then have it rain for 40 days and nights, and have the earth open up and flood the entire planet until the ark rested on a mountain top in turkey. Now that's a lot of trouble for someone who could use His almighty power and just smite all the creatures dead except for the chosen two. So you are left with the entire food chain let loose on a mountain in Turkey. No telling what kind of really cool creatures were gobbled up because they couldn't run fast enough when the door opened.

Also, since Jesus rejected some of the old law wouldn't that be a subtle hint that maybe perhaps the old testament shouldn't be read as a literal science book? Perhaps there once was a race of semi-ape semi-human people on this planet who were visited by humanoid aliens from outer space. I know from being a sailor that if you've been on your ship for a long time and you finally hit port, you aren't going to care if the people look a little different from yourself. And at the risk of sounding perverted, a cave women on her knees with her tits in the mud and that tight virgin ass in the air her wet pussy glistening in the sunlight , well, you get the picture.

Now if that was the case, and you are God dealing with a young primitive planet, you'd be more than happy to let them develop their own simple myths of creation because they couldn't handle the truth.

 

[Todd]

Well, as everybody seems to forget I haen't always been a fundaMENTAList. I have only been a fundaMENTAList for 7 years. Prior to that for 18 years I was raised like a good little militant athiest, tearing apart any religious view that was put before me. Evaluating and scientifically examining every aspect of life to prove that evolution and big bang and billions of years were the only acceptable answer.

Noah wouldn't of had to bring any aquatic life on board the Ark. Novel concept but things that can swim, they do great in a flood . As for bugs a lot of bugs burrow into mud and stuff at the onset of a rainy season to come out when it dries off some so wow novel concept that they wouldn't be needed on the ark. There are quite a few reptiles the same way, mud burrowers into a semi hibernation, obviously those wouldn't be needed thats like silly to take something tha will survive.

Why flood the whole earth instead of snapping the bad doers out of existence? Maybe for the fossils, or the coal supplies or the oil supplies who knows, if your gonna destroy the evil and want to leave the example of your wrath behind, some sort of visble reminder might be needed for future generations, who knows I ain't God, wish I was sometimes, but I ain't no wheres close.

Yes jesus rejected some of the old law be cause a new covenant was being established in his blood, but that doesn't affect the sceince part of the Old testament. Or is the thought ok God did do it like the old testament said but jeus came along changed the laws so he also went back and redone the creation aspect too, just to through us all off the trail when we just about figured it out.

Or if you were a god of a planet and your adversary didn't want you beleiveing a simple creation, your enemy makes up all sorts of stories so that they wouldn't hear the truth except for a few minority voices, and you always know the minority of voice is ALWAYS wrong, and the Majority is ALWAYS right

 

[Mistress]

I beleive in both. Smiles brightly and snuggles everyone

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

You misspelled a word. Remember, there's always a little "lie" in "Believe".

 

[Ally C]

We've certainly learnt so much from the flood and God's display of wrath ... look at how shipbuilding technology has improved over the centuries.

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

Todd?

You said Atheists are always......

"Evaluating and scientifically examining every aspect of life to prove that evolution and big bang and billions of years were the only acceptable answer."

Well, I'm not so sure that may be true - sounds a little prejudicial to me - are Christians supposed to be prejudicial?

And no Todd, whatever you might want to call me and others like me think - we do not evaluate and examine so much as - just don't seen how anyone - "anyone Todd(!)" - can "realistically claim to factually know" - how life on this planet came to be.

Sure - people can "believe" whatever they wish - whatever helps them get through this life - that's fine.

It's just that it's hard "for me at least" to believe anyone - again anyone - scientists, theologians - whoever - can "claim to know the truth."

I sure don't know - I think nobody knows Todd - nobody.

And I don't think that falls under the definition of Atheist.

I just like to think of myself as a caring, future hopeful, past ignorant - realist.

I'm a Realist Todd. I'm committed to realism. There are many of us. And there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[Mistress]

Bah it had all the right letters in it...just didnt get put in the right order!

 

[WriterDom]

Noah wouldn't of had to bring any aquatic life on board the Ark. Novel concept but things that can swim, they do great in a flood . As for bugs a lot of bugs burrow into mud and stuff at the onset of a rainy season to come out when it dries off some so wow novel concept that they wouldn't be needed on the ark.

I take it you've never had an aquarium. Many species don't do well with a drastic change in their water. Not to mention the salt/fresh issue.

There are 751,000 species of bugs. Not counting the 123,151 Non-insect Arthropoda (Mites, Spiders, Crustaceans etc.)

Just because a few can burrow in the ground before a rainy season, doesn't mean they all do. A dolphin lives in the ocean. Doesn't mean you can because you're a mammal also. And you can't fly like a bat either. Or outrun a cheetah. But you seem to make broad assumptions about insects to fit your argument.

 

[Todd]

Re: Todd?

You said Atheists are always......

"Evaluating and scientifically examining every aspect of life to prove that evolution and big bang and billions of years were the only acceptable answer."

I said

Prior to that for 18 years I was raised like a good little militant athiest, tearing apart any religious view that was put before me. Evaluating and scientifically examining every aspect of life to prove that evolution and big bang and billions of years were the only acceptable answer.

Implying I was trying to be a good athiest and beleive what the rest of the athiest beleived.

Originally posted by Ally C

We've certainly learnt so much from the flood and God's display of wrath ... look at how shipbuilding technology has improved over the centuries.

Why yes we have considering a secular program on TLC proved that the proportions of the biblical ark are the most advanced proportions in ship building considering in the shows estimation it was the largest ship of its time right up to the present. Oh my, did a secular program say something good about the Bible? Whoda thunk it?

Originally posted by Dixon Carter Lee

You misspelled a word. Remember, there's always a little "lie" in "Believe".

So there fore believing in Evolution and the big bang must be a lie too, so if we believe in anything we are all losers. We can't even believe in our own existence its a lie too We can't believe we have a planet under our feet cause its a lie as well

 

[Angel]

Todd, are you implying that every Atheist's beliefs are exactly the same?

 

[Todd]

Noah wouldn't of had to bring any aquatic life on board the Ark. Novel concept but things that can swim, they do great in a flood . As for bugs a lot of bugs burrow into mud and stuff at the onset of a rainy season to come out when it dries off some so wow novel concept that they wouldn't be needed on the ark.

I take it you've never had an aquarium. Many species don't do well with a drastic change in their water. Not to mention the salt/fresh issue.

There are 751,000 species of bugs. Not counting the 123,151 Non-insect Arthropoda (Mites, Spiders, Crustaceans etc.)

Just because a few can burrow in the ground before a rainy season, doesn't mean they all do. A dolphin lives in the ocean. Doesn't mean you can because you're a mammal also. And you can't fly like a bat either. Or outrun a cheetah. But you seem to make broad assumptions about insects to fit your argument.

Note I said "a lot" not all, that still leaves room for the one who wouldn't to go to the ark.