For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[Rightguide]

Zaporizhzhia has fallen to Russian forces.

 

[Politruk]

Zaporizhzhia has fallen to Russian forces.

Zaporizhia is a village with a prewar population of 200.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Zaporizhzhia has fallen to Russian forces.

Did you raise a toast and wave your Russian flag, Comrade RightGuide?

 

[HisArpy]

Zaporizhia is a village with a prewar population of 200.

And?

The village consists of people who farm the surrounding area. Which is no longer under Ukrainian control.

 

[dmallord]

And?

The village consists of people who farm the surrounding area. Which is no longer under Ukrainian control.

What is your point? Russia advanced. Okay, it took some farmland. Is that a significant territorial gain or of military strategic value?

Why did you point that out without explaining your purpose?

 

[HisArpy]

What is your point? Russia advanced. Okay, it took some farmland. Is that a significant territorial gain or of military strategic value?

Why did you point that out without explaining your purpose?

My point should have been obvious. Despite your belief that Ukraine is winning, Russia is taking and keeping Ukrainian territory. Which, while not being observably strategic in a military sense, is in fact a victory for Russia and a loss for Ukraine. A loss which will slowly be compounded as more and more land is seized and placed under Russian control.

 

[dmallord]

My point should have been obvious. Despite your belief that Ukraine is winning, Russia is taking and keeping Ukrainian territory. Which, while not being observably strategic in a military sense, is in fact a victory for Russia and a loss for Ukraine. A loss which will slowly be compounded as more and more land is seized and placed under Russian control.

Your assessment may be correct. If Trump had provided support to the level asked by Ukraine, Russia would more likely have been pushed out of that seized territory. We failed them. Trump failed to add another ally, one rich in resources and one holding democratic goals. That is unfortunate.

Now, Ukraine is forging new alliances, and other nations are taking up the slack. As a result of Trump's actions, we are kicked to the curb in terms of military support and are considered a suspect ally among NATO members.

On the other hand, given the multi-year battle and now over a million Russians dead in taking those few miles of territory, it has shown that it came at a steep price. Ukraine was underestimated by Putin, who expected this to be a short-term sweep-in-and-conquer type of war, and spectacularly roll over them. Instead, Russia is struggling, losing men, equipment, and suffering under economic sanctions.

You may recall Nazi Germany rolled over much of Russia and stalled out, losing in the end. Its military might failed due to the support of the advancing troops and the weather. Russia is facing similar issues in this war. With tanks and artillery being depleted, troops are often in disarray, and men have used motorcycles to advance as military vehicles are unavailable. Ukraine has taken the war to Russia.

Ukraine has stalled Russian advances and even taken the war deep into Russian territory on many new fronts. Imagine the US telling Ukraine it could not use deep-reaching missiles because we didn't want to antagonize Putin. Now that the release has been given, we see those changes taking place. The craftiness of drone warfare has been an unforeseen force that has kept the pressure on Russia.

 

[HisArpy]

Your assessment may be correct. If Trump had provided support to the level asked by Ukraine, Russia would more likely have been pushed out of that seized territory. We failed them. Trump failed to add another ally, one rich in resources and one holding democratic goals. That is unfortunate.

Now, Ukraine is forging new alliances, and other nations are taking up the slack. As a result of Trump's actions, we are kicked to the curb in terms of military support and are considered a suspect ally among NATO members.

On the other hand, given the multi-year battle and now over a million Russians dead in taking those few miles of territory, it has shown that it came at a steep price. Ukraine was underestimated by Putin, who expected this to be a short-term sweep-in-and-conquer type of war, and spectacularly roll over them. Instead, Russia is struggling, losing men, equipment, and suffering under economic sanctions.

You may recall Nazi Germany rolled over much of Russia and stalled out, losing in the end. Its military might failed due to the support of the advancing troops and the weather. Russia is facing similar issues in this war. With tanks and artillery being depleted, troops are often in disarray, and men have used motorcycles to advance as military vehicles are unavailable. Ukraine has taken the war to Russia.

Ukraine has stalled Russian advances and even taken the war deep into Russian territory on many new fronts. Imagine the US telling Ukraine it could not use deep-reaching missiles because we didn't want to antagonize Putin. Now that the release has been given, we see those changes taking place. The craftiness of drone warfare has been an unforeseen force that has kept the pressure on Russia.

dudly, WTF do you think BIDEN was doing for the PAST TWO YEARS? And Ukraine still couldn't push back enough to keep Russia from gaining territory.

You attempting to place this on Trump is bullshit. Trump WARNED Zelensky that he was going to lose and that's what's beginning to happen. Ukraine cannot win. It cannot even regain the land it has lost and risks losing more, if not all, despite the damage its been inflicting on Russia.

 

[dmallord]

dudly, WTF do you think BIDEN was doing for the PAST TWO YEARS? And Ukraine still couldn't push back enough to keep Russia from gaining territory.

You attempting to place this on Trump is bullshit. Trump WARNED Zelensky that he was going to lose and that's what's beginning to happen. Ukraine cannot win. It cannot even regain the land it has lost and risks losing more, if not all, despite the damage its been inflicting on Russia.

It isn't an attempt. It's facts. Biden did not take the necessary actions to advance Ukraine's efforts. He held back, though not to the extent that Trump has.

Are you surprised at that statement? LOL

Trump tried to steal mineral rights, tried to give away territory to Russia that was not his to give. Tried to blame Zelenskyy for starting the war and called him a criminal. What else do you expect from a felon himself?

We have not held back aid from Israel. They used our resources and intel each and every day. Trump buggered that supply and intel chain to Ukraine in order to force it to capitulate. He failed; Zelenskyy didn't buckle to his rants.

The felon also WARNed Putin, but did nothing. Why? Got any insight on that?

Ukraine is building momentum. It will take some time for new, better allies to funnel weapons to Ukraine. The Ukrainians have proven they can adapt and have the will to persevere. Hands down, they are wiping Russian asses in battle. Yes, Russia has territory, but at a high and unsustainable rate of loss. The tipping point will come with the promised and inbound resources flowing to Ukraine.

 

[Rightguide]

Zaporizhia is a village with a prewar population of 200.

So, because you're ignorant of its importance, let me school you on some facts. Zaporizhia is militarily important because:

It’s the keystone of the land bridge to Crimea.

It hosts vital transport routes for Russian logistics.

It serves as a gateway for any potential Ukrainian southern offensive.

It carries symbolic weight in both military and political terms

All of which demonstrates why even small villages become battlegrounds, not because of their size, but because of their strategic position within larger operational goals, cutting supply lines, threatening Crimea, and testing the effectiveness of NATO-standard weapons and tactics.

 

[icanhelp1]

It isn't an attempt. It's facts. Biden did not take the necessary actions to advance Ukraine's efforts. He held back, though not to the extent that Trump has.

Are you surprised at that statement? LOL

Trump tried to steal mineral rights, tried to give away territory to Russia that was not his to give. Tried to blame Zelenskyy for starting the war and called him a criminal. What else do you expect from a felon himself?

We have not held back aid from Israel. They used our resources and intel each and every day. Trump buggered that supply and intel chain to Ukraine in order to force it to capitulate. He failed; Zelenskyy didn't buckle to his rants.

The felon also WARNed Putin, but did nothing. Why? Got any insight on that?

Ukraine is building momentum. It will take some time for new, better allies to funnel weapons to Ukraine. The Ukrainians have proven they can adapt and have the will to persevere. Hands down, they are wiping Russian asses in battle. Yes, Russia has territory, but at a high and unsustainable rate of loss. The tipping point will come with the promised and inbound resources flowing to Ukraine.

Blaming Trump for everything is really really getting old.

The shit started hitting the fan with the Afghanistan withdrawal. Just think of how much better a strategic and tactical position we would be in if we had Bagram air base.

Biden's feckless foreign policy is the reason Ukraine is in the mess it's in now. Biden's *corn pop* warnings didn't work against Putin, he just laughed it off.


"DON'T"

 

[Lazaran]

Blaming Trump for everything is really really getting old.

The shit started hitting the fan with the Afghanistan withdrawal. Just think of how much better a strategic and tactical position we would be in if we had Bagram air base.

Biden's feckless foreign policy is the reason Ukraine is in the mess it's in now. Biden's *corn pop* warnings didn't work against Putin, he just laughed it off.

ineedhelp1 (a traitor) claimed they criticized DonOld over DonOld’s Afghanistan policy, but here is ineedhelp1 ONCE AGAIN blaming President Biden for EVERYTHING…



ineedhelp1



Also:

If the U.S. had still been entangled in Afghanistan (and even MOAR entangled if President Biden had scuttled DonOld’s “Doha Deal” with the Taliban & restarted a hot war in Afghanistan), then the U.S. would be in a far less flexible position to deal with / focus on Russia in Ukraine AND Iran & their proxies.

THANK YOU PRESIDENT BIDEN!!!





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Rightguide]

It isn't an attempt. It's facts. Biden did not take the necessary actions to advance Ukraine's efforts. He held back, though not to the extent that Trump has.

Are you surprised at that statement? LOL

Trump tried to steal mineral rights, tried to give away territory to Russia that was not his to give. Tried to blame Zelenskyy for starting the war and called him a criminal. What else do you expect from a felon himself?

We have not held back aid from Israel. They used our resources and intel each and every day. Trump buggered that supply and intel chain to Ukraine in order to force it to capitulate. He failed; Zelenskyy didn't buckle to his rants.

The felon also WARNed Putin, but did nothing. Why? Got any insight on that?

Ukraine is building momentum. It will take some time for new, better allies to funnel weapons to Ukraine. The Ukrainians have proven they can adapt and have the will to persevere. Hands down, they are wiping Russian asses in battle. Yes, Russia has territory, but at a high and unsustainable rate of loss. The tipping point will come with the promised and inbound resources flowing to Ukraine.

A pound of BS and equal parts MSNBC fan fiction and Twitter-level hysteria. So let’s get this straight: Trump, who armed Ukraine with lethal aid after Obama sent blankets, is somehow the villain, while Biden, who delayed artillery, rationed air defenses, and slow-walked long-range missiles until battlefield momentum slipped, is the hero? But keep cheering for a “tipping point” while Russia sweeps the Eastern front, global fatigue grows, and your sacred narrative becomes more convoluted than coherent.

 

[ll74]

So, because you're ignorant of its importance, let me school you on some facts. Zaporizhia is militarily important because:

It’s the keystone of the land bridge to Crimea.

It hosts vital transport routes for Russian logistics.

It serves as a gateway for any potential Ukrainian southern offensive.

It carries symbolic weight in both military and political terms

All of which demonstrates why even small villages become battlegrounds, not because of their size, but because of their strategic position within larger operational goals, cutting supply lines, threatening Crimea, and testing the effectiveness of NATO-standard weapons and tactics.

Putin taught this dude well.

I don't know that I've ever seen someone parrot Putin so well

 

[Politruk]

This is a war of attrition. Russia's warmaking ability will be exhausted first because Russia has no foreign support and Ukraine has.

 

[icanhelp1]

It isn't an attempt. It's facts. Biden did not take the necessary actions to advance Ukraine's efforts. He held back, though not to the extent that Trump has.

Are you surprised at that statement? LOL

Trump tried to steal mineral rights, tried to give away territory to Russia that was not his to give. Tried to blame Zelenskyy for starting the war and called him a criminal. What else do you expect from a felon himself?

We have not held back aid from Israel. They used our resources and intel each and every day. Trump buggered that supply and intel chain to Ukraine in order to force it to capitulate. He failed; Zelenskyy didn't buckle to his rants.

The felon also WARNed Putin, but did nothing. Why? Got any insight on that?

Ukraine is building momentum. It will take some time for new, better allies to funnel weapons to Ukraine. The Ukrainians have proven they can adapt and have the will to persevere. Hands down, they are wiping Russian asses in battle. Yes, Russia has territory, but at a high and unsustainable rate of loss. The tipping point will come with the promised and inbound resources flowing to Ukraine.

Using the word felon to describe Trump is such a childish ploy, it makes you look even more petty than you already are.

 

[Rightguide]

Putin taught this dude well.

I don't know that I've ever seen someone parrot Putin so well

Show me where Putin said anything like what I said in the post you quoted.

 

[ll74]

Show me where Putin said anything like what I said in the post you quoted.

Lol....word for word

 

[dmallord]

Using the word felon to describe Trump is such a childish ploy, it makes you look even more petty than you already are.

Oh, did I hurt your feelings?

I get it now—we’re not supposed to call Trump a felon because it makes your idol worship awkward. Sorry, I didn’t realize facts offended your sense of decorum. Next time, I’ll run the court records through your feelings filter.

But just to be clear: a jury convicted him. That’s not name-calling—that’s legal reality. He’s not a martyr, he’s a criminal. If he wore an orange jumpsuit instead of a red tie, maybe you’d finally see the difference.

You toss around words like “petty,” yet you turn a blind eye to a man who lies compulsively, cheats on his wives, ogles teenagers, pays hush money to porn stars, defames victims, and trashes democracy when it doesn’t serve him. But sure—I’m the problem because I used a word that makes your fantasy bubble wobble.

Your moral compass must be magnetic—wildly spinning toward power and ego, no matter how deep the rot. If Trump were caught torching a nursing home, I imagine you’d be here explaining how the fire was rigged by the deep state and the old folks had it coming.

So spare me the pearl-clutching. You’re not defending truth or principle. You’re just polishing a turd and calling it a gold medal.

 

[dmallord]

A pound of BS and equal parts MSNBC fan fiction and Twitter-level hysteria. So let’s get this straight: Trump, who armed Ukraine with lethal aid after Obama sent blankets, is somehow the villain, while Biden, who delayed artillery, rationed air defenses, and slow-walked long-range missiles until battlefield momentum slipped, is the hero? But keep cheering for a “tipping point” while Russia sweeps the Eastern front, global fatigue grows, and your sacred narrative becomes more convoluted than coherent.

Aww, how adorable—someone read a think piece, strung together some contrarian buzzwords, and now thinks they’ve cracked geopolitics wide open. Let’s untangle your outrage cosplay.

Yes, Trump sent lethal aid—after Congress forced his hand and only once Obama was out. He also froze that aid to extort a political favor. That’s not “arming an ally,” that’s abusing power. But hey, if weaponizing foreign aid for personal gain gets a gold star in your book, maybe check the spine on that “principled leadership” manual you skipped.

And Biden? He didn’t move as fast as everyone wanted—but he helped engineer the largest, most coordinated NATO effort in decades, without dragging us into direct war. That’s not “slow-walking,” that’s strategic escalation. Russia’s offensive is stalling, its losses are mounting, and Ukraine is still standing—not because of magic, but because U.S. and allied support made it possible.

But sure—wave the “Russia is winning” flag while pretending Ukraine’s resilience is MSNBC fanfic. Some of us live in a world where battlefield gains, economic pressure, and global alliances actually mean something. Others just throw tantrums because their felon-in-chief got caught playing footsie with autocrats and couldn’t finish the con.

So go ahead, sneer from the sidelines. The rest of us will keep rooting for the side that didn’t trade national security for a smear campaign and a hotel deal.

 

[Lazaran]

Aww, how adorable—someone read a think piece, strung together some contrarian buzzwords, and now thinks they’ve cracked geopolitics wide open. Let’s untangle your outrage cosplay.

Yes, Trump sent lethal aid—after Congress forced his hand and only once Obama was out. He also froze that aid to extort a political favor. That’s not “arming an ally,” that’s abusing power. But hey, if weaponizing foreign aid for personal gain gets a gold star in your book, maybe check the spine on that “principled leadership” manual you skipped.

And Biden? He didn’t move as fast as everyone wanted—but he helped engineer the largest, most coordinated NATO effort in decades, without dragging us into direct war. That’s not “slow-walking,” that’s strategic escalation. Russia’s offensive is stalling, its losses are mounting, and Ukraine is still standing—not because of magic, but because U.S. and allied support made it possible.

But sure—wave the “Russia is winning” flag while pretending Ukraine’s resilience is MSNBC fanfic. Some of us live in a world where battlefield gains, economic pressure, and global alliances actually mean something. Others just throw tantrums because their felon-in-chief got caught playing footsie with autocrats and couldn’t finish the con.

So go ahead, sneer from the sidelines. The rest of us will keep rooting for the side that didn’t trade national security for a smear campaign and a hotel deal.

Well said.





I would only add: when President Obama was in office the corruption & political situation in Ukraine was still unresolved, so providing lethal aid at that time would have been totally irresponsible. Things changed fairly dramatically in Ukraine on the corruption and political fronts in the interim between when President Obama sent non-lethal aid and when DonOld came into office and was eventually forced to send military aid to Ukraine & to sanction Russia.

 

[dmallord]

So, because you're ignorant of its importance, let me school you on some facts. Zaporizhia is militarily important because:

It’s the keystone of the land bridge to Crimea.

It hosts vital transport routes for Russian logistics.

It serves as a gateway for any potential Ukrainian southern offensive.

It carries symbolic weight in both military and political terms

All of which demonstrates why even small villages become battlegrounds, not because of their size, but because of their strategic position within larger operational goals, cutting supply lines, threatening Crimea, and testing the effectiveness of NATO-standard weapons and tactics.

Just to clarify a common mix-up: there are two different places with nearly identical names that are often confused in reporting.

1. Zaporizhzhia (city) – This is a major industrial city with hundreds of thousands of residents. It remains under Ukrainian control and is often mentioned due to its strategic position in the south.
2. Zaporizhzhya (village) – A tiny settlement with around 200 people, located closer to the front lines in Donetsk Oblast. This is the location that was recently captured by Russian forces—not the large city.

As for the idea of a "gateway to Crimea," that term more accurately applies to:

• Melitopol – A critical rail and highway hub in southern Zaporizhzhia Oblast. Often called the "gateway to Crimea" because most logistics routes from mainland Ukraine to Crimea pass through or near it.
• Kherson region, especially the Perekop Isthmus and Chonhar bridge crossings – These are the true land corridors into Crimea. Controlling these areas directly affects access and supply lines to the peninsula.

So yes, the idea of a strategic gateway to Crimea is valid—but it’s usually referring to Melitopol or the Kherson crossings, not the recently captured village named Zaporizhzhya.

"Hope this helps."

 

[icanhelp1]

Oh, did I hurt your feelings?

Not at all.

I get it now—we’re not supposed to call Trump a felon because it makes your idol worship awkward. Sorry, I didn’t realize facts offended your sense of decorum. Next time, I’ll run the court records through your feelings filter.

Facts don’t offend me. Actually I find it comical you feel the necessity to carry the torch, the TDS torch for your posse. I’m sorry Biden was such a failure for you but you need to move on. I guess striking out at Trump somehow fulfills a childish need.

But just to be clear: a jury convicted him. That’s not name-calling—that’s legal reality. He’s not a martyr, he’s a criminal. If he wore an orange jumpsuit instead of a red tie, maybe you’d finally see the difference.

When the conviction is overturned will you have the maturity to apologize?

You toss around words like “petty,” yet you turn a blind eye to a man who lies compulsively, cheats on his wives, ogles teenagers, pays hush money to porn stars, defames victims, and trashes democracy when it doesn’t serve him. But sure—I’m the problem because I used a word that makes your fantasy bubble wobble.

What I saw was an evil Democratic Party, an actual threat to democracy, starting with Obama and followed up by Hillary Clinton, Allen Green, Maxine Waters and others formulate a plan for a soft coup. Calling for impeachment even before Trump’s inauguration had taken place exposed the rot deep inside the Democratic Party. Calling for impeachment before his first official act as president is stunning. Not giving a person a chance is petty. You’re petty.

Your moral compass must be magnetic—wildly spinning toward power and ego, no matter how deep the rot. If Trump were caught torching a nursing home, I imagine you’d be here explaining how the fire was rigged by the deep state and the old folks had it coming.

And yet all the moral accusations you direct towards Trump can be leveled at the Kennedy’s and Bill Clinton, but that’s OK after all they’re you boys. Both JFK and Billy boy cheated on their wives while in office, can’t get much lower than that. Take your spinning moral compass and stick it in your ass you fucking hypocrite.

So spare me the pearl-clutching. You’re not defending truth or principle. You’re just polishing a turd and calling it a gold medal.

Much like you did for the Camelot crew and the southern boy from Arkansas. Hillary Clinton was a miscreant right from the time she passed her bar exam. I guess your moral high ground is knee deep in shit. Trump, as a real estate mogul, sowed his wild oats when he was younger but has evolved into a decent family man. At least he doesn’t cheat on his wife while in officice.

 

[dmallord]

Not at all.

Facts don’t offend me. Actually I find it comical you feel the necessity to carry the torch, the TDS torch for your posse. I’m sorry Biden was such a failure for you but you need to move on. I guess striking out at Trump somehow fulfills a childish need.

If facts didn’t offend you, you wouldn’t be defending someone convicted on multiple counts. That’s not a torch; that’s a mirror. As for Biden, you’re projecting—I’ve made no grand defense of him. What’s clear is that your devotion to Trump blinds you to his repeated violations of public trust. The only childish behavior here is pretending criminal accountability is some partisan witch hunt.

When the conviction is overturned will you have the maturity to apologize?

If the conviction is overturned, I’d acknowledge it—because unlike you, I don’t idolize politicians. But let’s be clear: an overturned conviction doesn't rewrite the facts of the case or erase the misconduct. Justice is a process, not a magic wand. It doesn’t always get things right, but I don’t ignore its outcomes when they’re inconvenient, as you seem to do now.

What I saw was an evil Democratic Party, an actual threat to democracy, starting with Obama and followed up by Hillary Clinton, Allen Green, Maxine Waters and others formulate a plan for a soft coup. Calling for impeachment even before Trump’s inauguration had taken place exposed the rot deep inside the Democratic Party. Calling for impeachment before his first official act as president is stunning. Not giving a person a chance is petty. You’re petty.

You’re rewriting history. Criticism of Trump began early because of his own conduct—during the campaign and transition. No one is required to “give a chance” to someone who openly promised to undermine institutions, mock opponents, and upend norms. Wanting accountability isn’t a coup—it’s the opposite. Petty? What’s petty is pretending outrage is a substitute for logic.

And yet all the moral accusations you direct towards Trump can be leveled at the Kennedy’s and Bill Clinton, but that’s OK after all they’re you boys. Both JFK and Billy boy cheated on their wives while in office, can’t get much lower than that. Take your spinning moral compass and stick it in your ass you fucking hypocrite.

That’s not an argument—that’s deflection laced with profanity. If others misbehaved, that doesn’t excuse Trump. If you’re demanding moral consistency, apply it. Ethically, legally, and politically, Trump's actions stand independently. Whataboutism won’t redeem him, and vulgarity doesn’t make your point stronger; it just makes it weaker. For you, vile words are a distinct tell. It tells everyone the truth of the matter scored points.

Much like you did for the Camelot crew and the southern boy from Arkansas. Hillary Clinton was a miscreant right from the time she passed her bar exam. I guess your moral high ground is knee deep in shit. Trump, as a real estate mogul, sowed his wild oats when he was younger but has evolved into a decent family man. At least he doesn’t cheat on his wife while in officice.

Again, you lean on vague smears and a selective moral standard. “Sowing wild oats” is your soft-pedaled phrase for conduct you’d condemn in anyone else. Trump’s personal conduct is well documented. Whether he's "decent" or not isn’t up to his press team or wishful thinking—it’s up to the record. As for fidelity, we don’t know what goes on behind closed doors. But what we do know is that he paid off a porn star to hide an affair. That wasn’t decades ago—it was during his campaign. If that’s your model of decency, your moral compass may need recalibration.

 

[icanhelp1]

If facts didn’t offend you, you wouldn’t be defending someone convicted on multiple counts. That’s not a torch; that’s a mirror. As for Biden, you’re projecting—I’ve made no grand defense of him. What’s clear is that your devotion to Trump blinds you to his repeated violations of public trust. The only childish behavior here is pretending criminal accountability is some partisan witch hunt.

I payed close attention to the court proceedings. I also payed strict attention to highly regarded legal professionals. Other than left wing nutbags the consensus was pretty much unanimous. The Grand Jury proceedings were flawed, it left out exculpatory evidence. The indictment was as thin as an indictment could be, The trial should never have taken place. Merchan was conflicted and had his thumb on the scales. Reversible errors and due process violations were numerous. Take your TDS laden victory laps but be prepared to eat crow.

If the conviction is overturned, I’d acknowledge it—because unlike you, I don’t idolize politicians. But let’s be clear: an overturned conviction doesn't rewrite the facts of the case or erase the misconduct. Justice is a process, not a magic wand. It doesn’t always get things right, but I don’t ignore its outcomes when they’re inconvenient, as you seem to do now.

Already setting up alibis. God you're a hypocrite! It was a hit job conjured up to take Trump out of the running. You democrats profess from your almighty soapbox that your party is the party that defends democracy, that is total bullshit. Your party's mantra is win at all cost, legally or illegally, constitutional or unconstitutional, just win baby win

You’re rewriting history. Criticism of Trump began early because of his own conduct—during the campaign and transition. No one is required to “give a chance” to someone who openly promised to undermine institutions, mock opponents, and upend norms. Wanting accountability isn’t a coup—it’s the opposite. Petty? What’s petty is pretending outrage is a substitute for logic.

No one said Trump's perfect but before you get on your party's soap box clean up your own backyard. Biden should never have won the election. The media failed, they lie to us, the FBI lied by omission hiding the laptop. There's only one reason Biden granted pardons to his family and his inner circle, most know the truth.

That’s not an argument—that’s deflection laced with profanity. If others misbehaved, that doesn’t excuse Trump. If you’re demanding moral consistency, apply it. Ethically, legally, and politically, Trump's actions stand independently. Whataboutism won’t redeem him, and vulgarity doesn’t make your point stronger; it just makes it weaker. For you, vile words are a distinct tell. It tells everyone the truth of the matter scored points.

Vile?? It's not deflection it's pointing out the hypocrisy of your party. Democrats are a party of deception, double standards and back then tyranny by majority.

Again, you lean on vague smears and a selective moral standard. “Sowing wild oats” is your soft-pedaled phrase for conduct you’d condemn in anyone else. Trump’s personal conduct is well documented. Whether he's "decent" or not isn’t up to his press team or wishful thinking—it’s up to the record. As for fidelity, we don’t know what goes on behind closed doors. But what we do know is that he paid off a porn star to hide an affair. That wasn’t decades ago—it was during his campaign. If that’s your model of decency, your moral compass may need recalibration.

Let's me put it to you this way, I trust Trump's judgement over Biden's. We don't even know if Biden was really running the country and your party was hell bent on hiding his cognitive decline for the sake of maintaining power. Your party put our country in grave danger, but your OK with that.
You write great narratives unfortunately it's all bullshit. As far as the democrat side of congress, they've voted against every republican agenda.