for the women...

[rikaaim]

I am currently writting new stories to submit, and well...I need some research info. I write with the intent to please the women. So, what turns you on? Specifically, when describing the female body, what WORDS turn you on? What words turn you on when describing the male body. How big is too big for a guy? I know there are fetishes and for some womeng, too big doesn't exist. But on average, what? 8 inches? 7 inches? What about breast size? DD? too big? I want to be ertoic. I don't want to be smutty or my stories porn. I want them to be genuinely good writtings. If you have a favorite story on Lit already, post the address and I'll check it out. Also, post what you liked most about it. Soft and sweet, or down and dirty? I just don't know. I love love and am at heart a hopeless romantic. So, I tend to write that way, but the physical act, and I want it to be a thing of beauty and awe, not just something for a guy to get a hard on. Any conversation and insight is much thanked.

 

[rikaaim]

I have to go now, but I will be back on later and look forward to reading several new suggestions. Thanks.

 

[BlackShanglan]

Personally - and speaking strictly as a gender-neutral horse stuck in the 1890's - I would argue that the question itself suggests a tendancy that I find less useful in descriptions of either gender. That is, I feel that statistics - inches, cup size, etc. - convey little in the way of emotional impact. If, as you say, your goal is eroticism and not merely porn, then I would suggest that your focus might more fruitfully be on perception and reaction on the parts of the characters and evocative, powerfully emotional descriptions than in statistical definition of their attributes. To quote a favorite example, once Rushdie describes the "water to which the cold of the night had given the cloudy consistancy of wild honey," I really don't care what temperature Farenheit or Centigrade it might be. I have the image.

Shanglan

 

[logophile]

Hmmm... When describing a cock, it's not about a specific length, although I do like the word Thick. Also, Hard. I don't really like penile euphamisms like Love Wand, Pleasure Stick, Yard-o-Beef, etc. They seem silly and juvenile to me. Cock is the best word. Dick and prick are acceptable. Also, referring to the cock as my sex, my growing hardness, etc seems OK.

For female anatomy I prefer pussy or sex (again, as in her sex was hungrily waiting for my fingers). In the absolute heat of things, cunt is OK, but I don't love to see it thrown around willy nilly. When talking about breasts, I don't think it's necessary to assign a cup size. Making them seem natural is the important thing. Small breasts are generally a little firmer than large breasts. Large breasts are softer and more malleable (again, generally speaking). For me it's not really important to read a description of the breasts. Talk about the sensations involved in playing with them, and her reaction. That's where the heat really is.

Describing intercourse can be a little tricky, but for me there are certain things that get me hot. Knowing that he is buried in her, or deep inside her is hot.

Key sex words for lighting the LogoPhile on fire ....
Full
Round
Wet
Slick
Glistening
Swollen
Pink
Inside
Need
Hard
Fill
Pound
Drive
Throb
Ache
Bind or Bound (depending on the tense)
Arch
Longing
Release

Also, feel free to refer to last night's round of Free Association. I didn't think I was going to survive.

 

[Guest]

Key sex words for lighting the LogoPhile on fire ....
Full
Round
Wet
Slick
Glistening
Swollen
Pink
Inside
Need
Hard
Fill
Pound
Drive
Throb
Ache
Bind or Bound (depending on the tense)
Arch
Longing
Release

Um, yeah.

Exactly what logo said.

Those evoke very delicious images for me! http://www.addis-welt.de/smilie/smilie/zensiert/girl.gif

 

[Guest]

Yep, that is a great list. One word that never fails to get me going, either, is simply: fuck.

Lou

 

[Guest]

I don't want to be smutty or my stories porn. I want them to be genuinely good writtings.

Hi Rikaaim,

I went back and read through your post again, and these sentences stood out to me. Do you think pure smut or porn is generally poorly written, then?

I don't place a lable on my own writing, I merely write whatever I feel like writing, and usually what makes me hot. If it's smutty, so be it. I happen to like the kind of erotica that is direct and dirty. But, I must also add, I don't like dirty stories to list the attributes of the characters. Show, don't tell.

I'm not meaning to pick an argument, btw, just pointing out that you needn't strive to acheive great literature. Some people can do that, without breaking sweat, the rest of us just write what we write, and shouldn't worry too much about which category of "erotica" we fall under.

Lou

 

[Guest]

I am currently writting new stories to submit, and well...I need some research info. I write with the intent to please the women. So, what turns you on? Specifically, when describing the female body, what WORDS turn you on? What words turn you on when describing the male body. How big is too big for a guy? I know there are fetishes and for some womeng, too big doesn't exist. But on average, what? 8 inches? 7 inches? What about breast size? DD? too big? I want to be ertoic. I don't want to be smutty or my stories porn. I want them to be genuinely good writtings. If you have a favorite story on Lit already, post the address and I'll check it out. Also, post what you liked most about it. Soft and sweet, or down and dirty? I just don't know. I love love and am at heart a hopeless romantic. So, I tend to write that way, but the physical act, and I want it to be a thing of beauty and awe, not just something for a guy to get a hard on. Any conversation and insight is much thanked.

rikaaim -

Let me echo what others have already stated. DON'T mention cup size, bra measurements or penile length in inches or feet.

It isn't believable. Not even remotely. (Unless the character in the story possesses a tape measure at that exact moment in time and can assess the situation for themselves.)

Even though we're writing smut, I honestly believe many readers want to be able to place themselves mentally in the story situations, so a bit of "truth" - so to speak - can be very important.

Mention her softness, her rounded shape, her firm butt, whatever. Mention his thickness, that diamond-cutter erection, the lovely warm feel and taste she enjoys when she takes it into her mouth, tonguing and lightly flicking, sucking harder -

Sorry. Lost myself for a moment.

As for naughty words, there's nothing wrong with writing about a good serious fuck. If it fits the mood of the story, then words such as "cunt" and "fuck" are certainly appropriate.

For a more genteel touch in certain situations, you'd want to soften the phrasing just a bit.

But even that kind of story can still contain good, hard, wild and erotic sex.

I don't think women want a more romantic story, necessarily. But they do appreciate well-written and half-way believable smut.

(I know I do!)

 

[LadyJeanne]

Re: Re: for the women...

Mention her softness, her rounded shape, her firm butt, whatever. Mention his thickness, that diamond-cutter erection, the lovely warm feel and taste she enjoys when she takes it into her mouth, tonguing and lightly flicking, sucking harder -

Sorry. Lost myself for a moment.

I love it when that happens.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Full
Round
Wet
Slick
Glistening
Swollen
Pink
Inside
Need
Hard
Fill
Pound
Drive
Throb
Ache
Bind or Bound (depending on the tense)
Arch
Longing
Release

Who the hell needs a story after that?

You should post that under erotic poetry.

 

[sweetnpetite]

I don't really like penile euphamisms like Love Wand, Pleasure Stick, Yard-o-Beef, etc.

Love wand.

i like that.


Sorry

 

[BlackShanglan]

Love wand.

Sounds like it needs batteries.

Shanglan

 

[rikaaim]

Re: Re: for the women...

Hi Rikaaim,

I went back and read through your post again, and these sentences stood out to me. Do you think pure smut or porn is generally poorly written, then?

I don't place a lable on my own writing, I merely write whatever I feel like writing, and usually what makes me hot. If it's smutty, so be it. I happen to like the kind of erotica that is direct and dirty. But, I must also add, I don't like dirty stories to list the attributes of the characters. Show, don't tell.

I'm not meaning to pick an argument, btw, just pointing out that you needn't strive to acheive great literature. Some people can do that, without breaking sweat, the rest of us just write what we write, and shouldn't worry too much about which category of "erotica" we fall under.

Lou

Well, I just got back from doing the grocery shopping. I read all the posts and have a better sense of the genre. I didn't intend to say that porn is poorly written. What I am trying to avoid is simply something that someone reads a few lines just to get off and then not read the rest of the story, one in which I pour a ton of myself into. I don't mind people getting off on my writting, but I want them to read and enjoy the rest of my talent as well. In fact, I want people to get aroused and excited. If I didn't then I wouldn't write these stories. I like to use soft tones because by nature that's the way I am. Soft. I also very much like those nights of hot passion that cover me in sweat and then I fall asleep from sheer exhaustion afterwards. That too is very erotic and exciting. My whole goal is to depict love at it's very basic. Two people, or more in some cases, that share genuine love are going to have a strong bond and feeling for one another, and thus want to be physical. To me the challenge is depicting that physical love.

 

[rikaaim]

I do want to take a seperate moment to thank everyone for their reponse and interest. I also want to thank everyone for giving me such a warm and open welcome in this first week of mine. I have already begun to recognize some of the regular people here and truly enjoy the company of everyone so far. Thank You.

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Re: for the women...

Well, I just got back from doing the grocery shopping. I read all the posts and have a better sense of the genre. I didn't intend to say that porn is poorly written. What I am trying to avoid is simply something that someone reads a few lines just to get off and then not read the rest of the story, one in which I pour a ton of myself into. I don't mind people getting off on my writting, but I want them to read and enjoy the rest of my talent as well. In fact, I want people to get aroused and excited. If I didn't then I wouldn't write these stories. I like to use soft tones because by nature that's the way I am. Soft. I also very much like those nights of hot passion that cover me in sweat and then I fall asleep from sheer exhaustion afterwards. That too is very erotic and exciting. My whole goal is to depict love at it's very basic. Two people, or more in some cases, that share genuine love are going to have a strong bond and feeling for one another, and thus want to be physical. To me the challenge is depicting that physical love.

Yes, I get you, Rikaaim. Apologies if I seemed confrontational.

I completely agree, a "story" consisting merely of sex holds no interest for me. There does have to be good and believable characters, build up, a little conflict (or a lot!) can be very good, too, and a satisfactory conclusion. In other words: a well rounded, sexy story.

I hear you when you say the challenge is depicting that physical love. You asked for any examples of our own stories in your initial post. You might find this one of mine an interesting read. It's in the BDSM category, but there is nothing of a hardcore BDSM nature in it, but the love and loyalty of a sub toward her Dom. What I think makes this interesting is when you compare and contrast her reactions and feelings towards her Dom with those she has towards a relative stranger to her (she ends up in a threesome with both). Here's link: Public Humiliation

Lou

 

[Evil Alpaca]

Re: Re: Re: Re: for the women...

Yes, I get you, Rikaaim. Apologies if I seemed confrontational.

Lou

You?!? Confrontational?!? No way! Go on, get out of here! I'm calling the newspapers . . .

 

[rikaaim]

Re: Re: Re: Re: for the women...

Yes, I get you, Rikaaim. Apologies if I seemed confrontational.

I completely agree, a "story" consisting merely of sex holds no interest for me. There does have to be good and believable characters, build up, a little conflict (or a lot!) can be very good, too, and a satisfactory conclusion. In other words: a well rounded, sexy story.

I hear you when you say the challenge is depicting that physical love. You asked for any examples of our own stories in your initial post. You might find this one of mine an interesting read. It's in the BDSM category, but there is nothing of a hardcore BDSM nature in it, but the love and loyalty of a sub toward her Dom. What I think makes this interesting is when you compare and contrast her reactions and feelings towards her Dom with those she has towards a relative stranger to her (she ends up in a threesome with both). Here's link: Public Humiliation

Lou

Thank you for the reference. I shall go and read it. One of the best things I have read so far was under youbadboy's bio. He accurately described what it means to write erotic I believe. Visiting this site and reading some stories as well as chatting has given me some good ideas. I'm usually happy when a story I write gets my wife really going and then she has a play date with her favorite shower head massager. She goes for the love and build up as well as good eroticism. I did tend to use specific size measurements, I will back off on that.

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: for the women...

You?!? Confrontational?!? No way! Go on, get out of here! I'm calling the newspapers . . .

I'm not.

Admittedly, I might have been a little with you when you first came here and I feel bad about that. I think I gave you quite the wrong first impression. I really did think perhaps you knew me already (just got that feeling, yannow?), so I guess I got a little defensive. It was out of character.

Forgive me?

Lou

 

[Guest]

 

[Evil Alpaca]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: for the women...

I'm not.

Admittedly, I might have been a little with you when you first came here and I feel bad about that. I think I gave you quite the wrong first impression. I really did think perhaps you knew me already (just got that feeling, yannow?), so I guess I got a little defensive. It was out of character.

Forgive me?

Lou

Hmm . . . methinks my sarcasm and good humor hath shot wide of the mark. Maybe if I use smaller words . . .

It was strange . . . the first day I posted, you thought I was familiar to you, then a week later you thought I was BEING familiar to you. I was just confused.

No need for forgiveness. I wouldn't be making fun of you if there were . . .

 

[rikaaim]

Hot Sex with a lot of what sarahh and lou said. I prefer to know feelings and thoughts as opposed to physical dimensions. Physical characteristics are okay - like blonde, tall, etc.

I also prefer some build up to the sex, a reason for the passion and how it develops

That's my forte. The build up and the reason. Pour example: Sally and Tom got shit faced drunk at the bar. Immediately, clothes worn torn off and things were shoved into holes. Soon, a mess was born.

Now THATS romantic.

 

[Guest]

 

[rikaaim]

Only if he buys dinner first.

I think he may have bought her a pint. Perhaps some pickled olives. That's part of the conflict.

 

[Guest]

I think he may have bought her a pint. Perhaps some pickled olives. That's part of the conflict.

LMAO!

 

[BlackShanglan]

I think he may have bought her a pint. Perhaps some pickled olives. That's part of the conflict.

Thank God, the art of the subplot is not lost.

Shanglan