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Squid's in -- and now it's on film

Tue Sep 27, 7:15 PM ET


Japanese zoologists have made the first recording of a live giant squid, one of the strangest and most elusive creatures in the world.

The size of a bus, with vast eyes and a querulous beak, Architeuthis has long nourished myth and literature, most memorably in Jules Vernes' "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea," in which a squid tried to engulf the submarine Nautilus with its suckered tentacles.

Until now, the only evidence of giant squids was extraordinarily rare -- from dead squids that washed up on remote shores or got snagged on a long-line fish hook or from ships' crews who spotted the deep-sea denizen as it made a sortie near the surface.

But almost nothing was known about where and how Architeuthis lives, feeds and reproduces. And, given the problems of getting down to its home in the ocean depths, no-one had ever obtained pictures of a live one.

Scientists went to extreme lengths, backed by TV companies, to be the first.

In 1997 the US National Geographic Society attached video cameras by a temporary cord to sperm whales in the hope that this would get pictures of a whale dining on one of the giant cephalopods.

In 2003, New Zealand marine biologists laid a sex trap.

They ground up some squid gonads, believing that the scent would drive male giant squids wild as the creatures migrated through New Zealand waters.

The hope was that a camera would squirt out the pureed genitals and a passing squid, driven into a sexual frenzy, would then mate with the lens -- a project that, some may be relieved to hear, never came to fruition.

The breakthrough has come from Tsunemi Kubodera of the National Science Museum in Tokyo and Kyoichi Mori of the Ogasawara Whale Watching Association.

Writing in a British scientific publication, Proceedings of the Royal Society B, Kubodera and Mori describe how they also used sperm whales as a guide.

Whale watchers on the Ogawara Islands, in the North Pacific, had long noted the migratory patterns of sperm whales, observing in particular how the mammals would gather near a steep and canyoned continental shelf, about 10-15 kilometers (six to nine miles) southeast of Chichijima Island.

By attaching depth loggers to the whales, the watchers found the creatures made enormous dives of up to 1,000 metres (3,250 feet) -- just at the depths where the giant squid is believed to lurk.

They then set up a special rig, comprising a camera, stroboscope light, timer, depth sensor, data logger and a depth-activated switch attached to two mesh bags filled with a tempting bait of freshly mashed shrimps.

Suspended from floats, the rig was lowered into the water on a nylon line, with flash pictures taken every 30 seconds for the next four to five hours.

At 9:15 am on September 30 2004, squids as we know them changed forever.

At that moment, 900 metres (2,925 feet) down in the Stygian gloom, an eight-metre (26-feet) specimen lunged at the lower bait bag, succeeding only in getting itself impaled on the hook.

For the next four hours, the squid tried to get itself off the hook as the camera snapped away every 30 seconds, gaining not only unprecedented pictures but also precious information about how the squid is able to propel itself.

After a monstrous battle, the squid eventually freed itself, but left behind a giant tentacle on the hook.

When the severed limb was brought up to the surface, its huge suckers were still able to grip the boat deck and any fingers that touched them -- testimony indeed to the myths of yore, that spoke of monstrous arms that grabbed ships and hauled them to their doom.

Kubodera and Mori have carried out a DNA test from the tentacle, and the result concurs with that of other samples taken from washed-up squid.

Their deep-sea pictures suggest that the squid is far from being the "sluggish, neutrally buoyant" creature that it has traditionally been deemed to be.

Quite the opposite, say the Japanese duo. It is an active predator that attacks its prey horizontally, and its two long tentacles coil up into a ball after the strike, rather like pythons that rapidly envelop their prey in their sinuous curves.[/quote]

*shudder*
 
My preferred view of squid is on my plate in a nice calamari fritti. Was it like that? ;)
 
The whole experience was at odds with that, Shang. But I found it fascinating nonetheless. I am always willing to learn the new thing. If only the myriads of beautiful women I meet felt the same...
 
cantdog said:
The whole experience was at odds with that, Shang. But I found it fascinating nonetheless. I am always willing to learn the new thing. If only the myriads of beautiful women I meet felt the same...

:cathappy:


Actually, we're going to introduce calamari to our kids this weekend.

We're planning a big seafood event, many different tastes. So what if it will be breaded and fried? It's still a new experience! I want them to talk to their friends about this after the fact - either how tasty it was or how icky it was. :D


Thanks, min. Fascinating scientific discovery.
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
:cathappy:


Actually, we're going to introduce calamari to our kids this weekend.

We're planning a big seafood event, many different tastes. So what if it will be breaded and fried? It's still a new experience! I want them to talk to their friends about this after the fact - either how tasty it was or how icky it was. :D


Thanks, min. Fascinating scientific discovery.

True story - my brother once took a date to an Italian restaurant that served ring-style calamari, and ordered some as an appetizer. Said date was normally finicky about food, and he was surprised that she dug right in and shared it. Then, somewhere about the middle of the plate, she said, "Wow, these are the best onion rings I've ever had!"
 
I gotta say, I find the concept of having a camera spew pureed squid gonads to be more than a little disturbing. And would the camera have survived the hoped for squid fucking if received?
 
minsue said:
I gotta say, I find the concept of having a camera spew pureed squid gonads to be more than a little disturbing. And would the camera have survived the hoped for squid fucking if received?

There are so many things wrong about that plan that it's hard to know where to start.
 
BlackShanglan said:
There are so many things wrong about that plan that it's hard to know where to start.
Now if only I could make myself STOP analyzing it......*smacks head repeatedly to try to dislodge mental images*
 
minsue said:
I gotta say, I find the concept of having a camera spew pureed squid gonads to be more than a little disturbing.
Takoyaki anyone?
 
minsue said:
I gotta say, I find the concept of having a camera spew pureed squid gonads to be more than a little disturbing.
yui said:
Takoyaki anyone?
Thank you. Not I'll never have that again. :rolleyes:
 
Shameless Plug

Thanks, minsue, for the title of this thread.

Shameless plug for my story: The Giant Squid

Perhaps the researchers using the gonads had something similar in mind?

Og
 
I JUST read this on CNN and read the article.

I love squid. My husband told me about the story where they put a squid in a tank with little sharks and they started getting little regurgitated shark skeletons. The squid was eating them.

I just love squid. I'm so glad they're the real top of the food chain.
 
Recidiva said:
I just love squid. I'm so glad they're the real top of the food chain.
Let's just hope giant squid don't like people.
 
yui said:
Let's just hope giant squid don't like people.

I'm just perverse. Sharks seem like machines, no soul. Squid are highly intelligent and sneaky, watching a mimic octopus is a thing to behold.

I can't help it. I'd rather be devoured by something with a brain and a sense of humor.
 
Recidiva said:
I can't help it. I'd rather be devoured by something with a brain and a sense of humor.
Yeah, but Carson is gay. :(
 
yui said:
Yeah, but Carson is gay. :(

That's okay, I'm not to every squid in the sea's tastes. But to the ones that I am, it's fun to swim around the ocean with 'em and yip and squeal and such.
 
minsue said:
In 2003, New Zealand marine biologists laid a sex trap.

They ground up some squid gonads, believing that the scent would drive male giant squids wild as the creatures migrated through New Zealand waters.

The hope was that a camera would squirt out the pureed genitals and a passing squid, driven into a sexual frenzy, would then mate with the lens --


Marine biologists have all the fun.
 
carsonshepherd said:
I need to do name searches more often :cattail:
I think they are called *cough* vanity searches. :D

And she did say "devoured by something with brains and sense of humor ... " :rose: :heart:

LadyJeanne said:
Marine biologists have all the fun.

Well, this was a ballsy bunch of fin-footed scientist, eh?



:D
 
yui said:
Well, this was a ballsy bunch of fin-footed scientist, eh?



:D
GROANNNNNNNN

Oh, Yui, that was so bad! :rolleyes: I'm quite ashamed of laughing this hard. :D
 
yui said:
Well, this was a ballsy bunch of fin-footed scientist, eh?



:D


Yes, and now they have a giant gripping-sucking tentacle. Who knows what those wacky guys will think of next? All in the name of science, of course. :cool:
 
LadyJeanne said:
Yes, and now they have a giant gripping-sucking tentacle. Who knows what those wacky guys will think of next? All in the name of science, of course. :cool:


Oooh. That sounds good.

I want one of those grippy-sucking things.

:cathappy:
 
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