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I was going to send this to one person but thought others might enjoy it too. I'm delighted that Jennifer Saunders is also in this. I've taken out the usual background info on Cleese but the full article's url is at bottom. - Perdita
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A PYTHON IN THE WORLD OF 'SHREK' - Hugh Hart, May 16, 2004, San Francisco Chronicle

Before John Cleese gets around to discussing King Harold, the character he voices in "Shrek 2," the 6-foot-4 comedy star pours himself a cup of tea, plops his feet (loafers, no socks) on an ottoman, and expounds for several minutes on his latest fascination: life after death.

"We've been having discussions at the Esalen Institute about -- this will sound very strange -- the possibility of the survival of consciousness, " Cleese begins, with little preface. "Western scientists by and large don't see how consciousness could survive the destruction of the brain that created it."

OK then. Cleese goes on, tangentially touching on Newtonian physics, quantum mechanics, 19th century semanticist Alfred O. Korzybski's map/territory theory, psychiatrist Ian Stevenson's work on reincarnation and a summary of "veridical near-death experiences" before wryly putting on the brakes when the name "King Harold" is crowbarred into the conversation.

"This rings a bell," he pauses. "Something to do with the 'Shrek' publicity?"

Not that Cleese lacks enthusiasm for "Shrek 2." In the sequel to the 2001 animated comedy hit, which reunites Mike Myers, Cameron Diaz and Eddie Murphy, Cleese lends his instantly recognizable voice to the ruler of the Far Far Away Kingdom, stuffy father of Princess Fiona. Dismayed to learn that his new son- in-law is an ogre, the king sets in motion a flurry of magic spells that leaves him literally transformed, in the end, by his own secret past.

It's just that Cleese, who earned a law degree from Cambridge University and taught at a British prep school before sidling into show business in the early '60s, possesses the sort of restless intellect rarely found in Hollywood. His academic grounding stood him in good stead back when he was writing and performing in "Monty Python's Flying Circus."
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In much of that work, Cleese mined his exasperated, mean-spirited characters for a wealth of brilliantly bilious comedic payoffs. But at this stage in his life, the actor says he gravitates toward hassle-free assignments whenever possible. Which made "Shrek 2" a perfect match.

"I'm a little pragmatic about this business," Cleese says. "I don't get excited much, but I really liked the first 'Shrek' and was distinctly envious of John Lithgow. So when the phone rang (with the job offer) it made me feel very chuffed."

The best thing about voice work on animated features, Cleese says, is that it's "very unstressful. You don't have to memorize lines, you don't really have to shave unless you want to, and you can try lots and lots of things and it doesn't matter how many mistakes you make, provided you just get one right take. I started in radio, and I've always liked the purity of just having a microphone and a script, instead of people coming in and saying, 'I'm afraid that light up there isn't quite right.' "

The "Shrek 2" team decided to cast Cleese during a brainstorming session. "We were looking at different personality traits we could give the king, and we all came to the conclusion that he was like Basil Fawlty," recalls "Shrek 2" co-director Conrad Vernon. "(The king) has to have control over everything, and the more he tries to control it, the more it spins out of control. We figured John Cleese would be perfect."

"Except for one session I did with Julie (Andrews), there are no other actors, so you're completely dependent on the director to tell you what the hell's going on," says Cleese, who performed his six recording sessions over the course of 15 months. "You've got a storyboard, but that's pretty rudimentary. After that, it's all down to a question of can the director describe to you what he's after?"

"Somebody said to me yesterday the king is more of a straight man, and that's right," Cleese says. "He really is providing a lot of the emotional framework for what's going on around him."

Ironically, "Shrek 2" gives most of the big laughs to English actress Jennifer Saunders ("Absolutely Fabulous"), who voices the conniving fairy godmother, and Antonio Banderas (as feline swashbuckler Puss in Boots). Meanwhile, Cleese delivers what is undoubtedly his most three- dimensional performance playing a two-dimensional cartoon character.

The "Shrek" movies have a far more gentle satiric sensibility than the Python oeuvre, but Cleese points out that both share an ability to move audiences on multiple levels.

"I would think there's a stylistic similarity," Cleese muses, "though I wouldn't like to put it into words. What people used to say about Python, quite correctly, was how silly it was. But people also got that underneath the silliness, there was always some sort of thought, and that's what I think you feel about 'Shrek.' It's all completely silly, good-natured and great fun on the surface, but actually there's some interesting comments being made."

Cleese
 
I wanted to see this, since my kids got me hooked on part one, but knowing John Cleese and Jennifer Saunders(I'm an AB Fab junkie) are in it, the more better!!!!!!!!

~A~
 
I'm with Abs on that - I've been a John Cleese/Monty Python fan since my older brother introduced me to "Quest for the Holy Grail."

Ab Fab sends me into hysterics.

Thanks, Perdita!
 
He is a brilliant man and very talented. I could imagine him as a lawyer though, I'm sure he would win many of his cases.
 
Wow, Abby and Cloudy, your two AVs together are really something! :)

A friend forced me to watch Shrek and I loved it. This time I'll see it on a big screen, hopefully with my 12 year old niece.

Perdita
 
Cleese is one of those guys that is just funny. He doesn't have to do anything, and I'm laughing. I think it's his long legs, gangly walk and hilariously funny face. Those expressions are something else.

I also love Jen, especially when her and Dawn collaborate. They are also both fine actors in their own right (especially Dawn in serious roles).

Shrek is also awesome. I think I must watch it about once a week! Mike Myers originally did the voice over for Shrek in his native Canadian accent, but when they did the test viewings it was decided that he should sound working class, so they chose to re-record with Mike using a Scottish accent (LOL).

A great piece, covering some of my favourite people, I can't wait for Shrek 2. Thanks, Perdita!

Lou :rose:
 
I have had to hear Shrek karaoke over and over!!!

Lou, french and saunders is incredible, too bad more americans cant appreciate their brilliance.

still off topic, but did you see Jane Horrocks in Little Voice?? Great movie and a great cast!
 
I've seen a John Cleese interview where he says he detests being asked to do his "Ministry of Funny Walks" skit - I have to confess, it's one of my favorites. It's one of those things that it doesn't matter how many times I've seen it, I still end up laughing til tears are streaming down my face by the end of the skit.

The man is a brilliant comedian.

P.S. Thanks, Perdita, for the compliment on my AV. Working on a drawing to replace it, eventually, but have no idea when it may be finished. The one I'm using isn't mine, but I wish it was!
 
I thought Cleese sexy long before "Wanda". I find him sexy now. He was wonderful and sexy in some "Will and Grace" episodes.

Perdita

p.s. I don't know what "too sexy" is.
 
Cleese is a comic genius, but I really hated Fawlty Towers, which some say is his finest hour. Too much over-acting, screaming and gangly acrobatics for me. He is at his best when cool, strict and composed. The man can play irony like a violin.
 
I think JC was at his best in his multiple roles in "Life of Brian." His finest moment may have been as the centurion giving the graffiti writer a Latin lesson.
Amo, amas, amat,
MG
 
Liar said:
Cleese is a comic genius, but I really hated Fawlty Towers, which some say is his finest hour. Too much over-acting, screaming and gangly acrobatics for me. He is at his best when cool, strict and composed. The man can play irony like a violin.

I completely agree and am completely jealous that I didn't come up with your last sentence. :rolleyes: I'll have to steal it and use it elsewhere. :D
 
cloudy said:
I'm with Abs on that - I've been a John Cleese/Monty Python fan since my older brother introduced me to "Quest for the Holy Grail."

Ab Fab sends me into hysterics.

Thanks, Perdita!

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries.
 
perdita said:
Wow, Abby and Cloudy, your two AVs together are really something! :)

A friend forced me to watch Shrek and I loved it. This time I'll see it on a big screen, hopefully with my 12 year old niece.

Perdita

Younger relatives are a gift from God to allow us to see the shows we would otherwise miss.
 
OldnotDead said:
Younger relatives are a gift from God to allow us to see the shows we would otherwise miss.

You wuoldn't say that if you had been forced to watch Home Alone III or VII or whichever it was - with my nephew, who used to narrate it for me. "Wait till you see this part! That guy is going to fall out the window."
 
MathGirl said:
I think JC was at his best in his multiple roles in "Life of Brian." His finest moment may have been as the centurion giving the graffiti writer a Latin lesson.
Amo, amas, amat,
MG

You're wrong. Crucifiction is nothing, compared to stabbing.
 
Was it Cleese who said to Regina, "Where's the fetus going to gestate? In a box?"
 
More Cleese

Another interview, from the NYTiimes. Some very interesting stuff, and funny lines from Cleese. - Perdita
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Shrek, Meet Your New Father-in-Law - JENNIFER SENIOR

MORE than any other Monty Python alumnus, John Cleese has enjoyed a rich and unpredictably varied career — as the star of his own series ("Fawlty Towers"), as a screenwriter and director ("A Fish Called Wanda"), as a pitchman, as a maker of corporate training videos, as an author of two psychology books. No matter how distracted he gets, however, Mr. Cleese, 64, has never strayed too far from show business, even if he's heard and not seen: For instance, in "Shrek 2," which opens on Friday, he's the voice of King Harold, a narrowly rational potentate who tries to foil the marriage of his daughter, Fiona (the voice of Cameron Diaz) to the title character (Mike Myers). A few weeks ago, Jennifer Senior spoke on the telephone with Mr. Cleese about the crimes of American television, the pleasures of animation and his plans to launch his own blog.

JENNIFER SENIOR Why is it that all of the funny actors I can think of are in cartoons — either in the movies or on television? You, Mike Myers, Albert Brooks, John Lithgow, Nathan Lane, the entire cast of "The Simpsons." It would be nice to see your faces every once in a while.

JOHN CLEESE I think animation is taking on an importance that's very different from what it used to have. In the old days, I don't think anybody knew particularly well who did the voices in "Bambi." And now, all of a sudden, not only are the actors doing it, but so are all the young writers. I'm writing an animated movie at the moment for DreamWorks.

SENIOR What about?

CLEESE Cavemen. And my son-in-law, he's now working in animation. He's written a very zany comedy. I just recorded the voice of Hitler.

SENIOR Hitler? Really?

CLEESE Returned to the planet to try and do good. He's learned a great deal. Though his temperament is still a little fiery.

SENIOR So what is it about animation that's so appealing?

CLEESE I think it offers a whole range of subjects that you can't really do unless they're animated. I have yet to see a really good movie, for example, about the relationship between dogs and cats. It's basically about the relationship between introverts and extroverts.

SENIOR Now that "Fawlty Towers" is back in our living rooms on BBC America, I'm curious: what do you think of that network's big hit, "The Office"?

CLEESE I think it's very, very good.

SENIOR Do you think an American adaptation could be successful?

CLEESE I doubt it. I've seen an enormous number of English shows adapted for America. They've three times tried to adapt "Fawlty Towers," and each time it was very poor. They always decided they needed to change it. The second time, they wrote the character of Basil Fawlty out of the series.

SENIOR You're joking.

CLEESE They got rid of Basil and gave Mrs. Fawlty all of Basil and Sybil's best lines. And that is an idea so excruciatingly bad it's absolutely astonishing anyone would have spent good money on it.

SENIOR What is it like for you generally in Hollywood? You've been there for a while now. Have they figured out what to do with you yet?

CLEESE I'll tell you exactly what the problem is: as I got older, I realized that I didn't want to be in the position where I put aside three years of my life for a single project. And I didn't want to do something on American television, because if it was successful, they would want 100 episodes. So I decided to be a hired gun for a bit. But then you're dependent upon people finding you a role. In the last 12 months, I think I've done half a day on a feature film.

SENIOR That's it?

CLEESE That was it. It's not that there haven't been other scripts sent to me. But apart from one thing, there hasn't been anything that I thought was good. Whereas I've been lucky enough to work with the "Will and Grace" people. It is a deeply disreputable show. It is morally repugnant to all right-thinking citizens, but everybody thinks it's hilarious.

SENIOR Is it also harder to age gracefully in comedy?

CLEESE Oh, I don't think so. I think if people know who you are . . . like if Michael Caine walks on screen, everybody knows it's Michael Caine, and they don't realize that he's 130 or whatever. Because it's Michael Caine, and we've loved Michael Caine for as long as we can remember, so we just see Michael Caine. We don't think, "Who is that extraordinarily ancient man?"

SENIOR Among your old Monty Python cohort, Terry Gilliam has had the most success navigating the shoals of Hollywood. Is it because he's American?

CLEESE Oh, I don't think so. You just have to want to continue to do it. I think being a film director is about as awful a job as you can have.

SENIOR Really? But they have so much control.

CLEESE Well, exactly. You want to be responsible for every single decision that's made over a period of two and a half years. Now, there are some people who are sufficiently megalomaniacal to want that kind of responsibility. But most of us would be very happy to say, "Not today, thank you."

SENIOR Are you saying that Terry Gilliam is a megalomaniac?

CLEESE I'm saying all film directors are, without exception.

SENIOR What projects are you up to now?

CLEESE It'll make you laugh, but I'm really, really getting interested in a Web site.

SENIOR Really?

CLEESE I get lots and lots of funny ideas. And I think to myself: what am I going to do? I don't have a show. So it seems to me the best thing I can do is to buy a little camera, write funny things, and then perform them very, very simply in front of this camera, and put it on the Web site the next day. Apparently, there are people who will pay 50 cents a week to download bits of funny material.

SENIOR What will it be called?

CLEESE Well, it can't be John Cleese because some pest has already taken that. So let me just ask my dear assistant. [Speaks to someone in the room.] Oh. Thejohncleese.com.

SENIOR You've already got it up and running?

CLEESE Yes. I've got a little slew of work I'm getting through at the moment, but once that's out of the way, I'm going to sit down and start creating material. I love the idea of running a kind of — what would you call it? — a sort of nanochannel.

SENIOR Would you also want to include a blog?

CLEESE Yes. There are all sorts of things I'd put in. I've been thinking of a funny greetings card. I can never find very good funny greetings cards anymore.

SENIOR Such as?

CLEESE I'm sorry I ate your gerbil.

SENIOR Right.

CLEESE I'm extremely sorry I murdered your aunt. I really shouldn't have done it.

SENIOR Would you collaborate with others on this project?

CLEESE Oh yes. I mean, I did think it would be rather funny to do a film about the War of Independence and call it "1776 1/2" and shoot it all at the ranch with three people in each army.

SENIOR Who would play General Washington?

CLEESE My teeth are sufficiently bad. I think Washington would be a doddle to play.

SENIOR A what?

CLEESE Doddle. It means something extremely easy to do. As in "The Life of Brian," when the old man says, "Crucifixion's a doddle." It's one of my favorite lines in all the Python films.

SENIOR When was the last time you watched one of your movies?

CLEESE I sometimes watch them if I'm doing a little charitable thing. One of the easiest ways to raise money for charity is that they get the movie, I introduce it, and then I do a Q. and A. after it. I think the last one I saw actually was "Fierce Creatures." You'll be amused to know I did the keynote speech at the zoological association get-together in Santa Barbara about three weeks ago.

SENIOR Zoology interests you, yes?

CLEESE I'm on the board of directors at the zoo here. I like being around animals.

SENIOR I heard that you had chinchillas on your property. What exactly is a chinchilla?

CLEESE I'd say it's like a cross between a flying squirrel and a rabbit. I should probably write an animated movie about them. They're very, very nice little creatures.
 
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