Flynn asks for immunity

[M. Jordan]

Many cracks showing now. If the Administration had a clear sense of no wrong doing they would not be conducting themselves in this manor. Dean the counsel to Nixon said that it looks as thought they are in full cover up mode, he would know.

Most of what I see seems to be misdirection, throw enough at the wall and something has to stick. No telling how far this will go but it just keeps getting deeper each day.

 

[srgreene]

I will admit I'm not the sharpest tool around but, the request for immunity would seem to point to illegal activities right? This could be fun, hope he lives long enough to tesitify.

I don't think you can necessarily draw that conclusion, although certainly anyone who knew he or she violated the law would seek that deal. In these kinds of highly politicized cases, there will always be those who seek to benefit form politically-inspired prosecutions, and and think Schumer and Co. are simply playing a game of obstructionism.

That said, and as one married to a retired army solider, I can only marvel that a three star manages to handle himself so ineptly. His own actions- from misrepresenting Russia contacts to failing to report income reeks of some sense of privilege that come with rank. Flynn had a distinguished service record and probably had much to offer his country after retiring from active duty, but at very least shown himself to have exercised extremely poor judgment.

 

[sr71plt]

I'm the son of an Army general and myself a graduate of the U.S. Army War College, through which most in the Army have to go on their way to general (shortly after doing the War College). I can quite understand an Army general having a sense of privilege and "I can do and get away with what others can't" (especially as most at that rank contrasted with my father, who came up through the ranks and earned his rank in actual boots-on-the-ground combat). Flynn acts like many a general I've worked with.

And, yep, I happily draw the conclusion that one wouldn't ask for a protection deal unless he/she knew they'd done something that could land them in the slammer. Merely to ask is to shred one's reputation, and an Army general doesn't go that far unless he's trying to stave off worse than losing his reputation--and there isn't much of anything worse for an Army general. Flynn knowingly peddled his influence illegally because he assumed he could get away with it. And he assumed he could get away with it because of the company he was keeping. This matches whatever leverage he has--because of what the company he was keeping was/is also doing.

 

[someoneyouknow]

I don't think you can necessarily draw that conclusion, although certainly anyone who knew he or she violated the law would seek that deal.

Oh yes you can. Flynn himself said people who seek immunity are most likely guilty:

But Flynn saw immunity differently in September 2016, when reports surfaced that aides around Hillary Clinton had been granted immunity by the government in exchange for talking freely to the FBI about Clinton’s private email server.

“When you are given immunity, that means you probably committed a crime,” Flynn, then a top campaign aide to Donald Trump, said on “Meet the Press.”​

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/30/flashback-mike-flynn-said-immunity-equals-guilt.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/31/michael-flynn-in-2016-immunity-means-you-probably-committed-a-crime/?utm_term=.10f3aaee5767

The con artist himself even said those who seek immunity are guilty:

But back in September, when reports surfaced that Hillary Clinton aides were granted immunity in an FBI investigation into Clinton's private email server, Trump said at a campaign rally that such a request for immunity amounted to an admission of criminal guilt.

"Her aides took the Fifth Amendment and her ringleaders were given immunity," Trump told the crowd, which booed in response. "And if you're not guilty of a crime, what do you need immunity for, right?"

"The reason they get immunity is because they did something wrong," Trump added. "If they didn’t do anything wrong, they don’t think in terms of immunity."​

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/31/doanld-trump-immunity-2016-mobile.cnn

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-flynn-immunity-hillary-clinton-rally-2017-3

That said, and as one married to a retired armyhttp://www.businessinsider.com/michael-flynn-pentagon-internet-2016-11 solider, I can only marvel that a three star manages to handle himself so ineptly. His own actions- from misrepresenting Russia contacts to failing to report income reeks of some sense of privilege that come with rank. Flynn had a distinguished service record and probably had much to offer his country after retiring from active duty, but at very least shown himself to have exercised extremely poor judgment.

This isn't the first time he has exercised "poor judgment". He also had an illegal, potentially unsecured, network connection at the Pentagon because he thought all those security measures were stupid:

Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn installed a secret internet connection into his office at the Pentagon even though it was "forbidden," according to a profile in The New Yorker by Dana Priest.

The network connection was among other rules the former chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency broke because he found them to be "stupid," including sometimes sneaking out of a CIA station in Iraq without authorization and sharing classified information with NATO allies without approval, according to The New Yorker.​

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Obstructionism??? Say it isn't so!

I don't think you can necessarily draw that conclusion, although certainly anyone who knew he or she violated the law would seek that deal. In these kinds of highly politicized cases, there will always be those who seek to benefit form politically-inspired prosecutions, and and think Schumer and Co. are simply playing a game of obstructionism.

That said, and as one married to a retired army solider, I can only marvel that a three star manages to handle himself so ineptly. His own actions- from misrepresenting Russia contacts to failing to report income reeks of some sense of privilege that come with rank. Flynn had a distinguished service record and probably had much to offer his country after retiring from active duty, but at very least shown himself to have exercised extremely poor judgment.

 

[EternalFantasies]

Where do you ppl get your news?

The White-House have supported Flynn's request for immunity. It's congress that won't grant it.

One does wonder why when Congress is majority Republicans no?

 

[sr71plt]

Where do you ppl get your news?

The White-House have supported Flynn's request for immunity. It's congress that won't grant it.

One does wonder why when Congress is majority Republicans no?

What's the relevance of this to anything? It's not the White House that gives anyone immunity from either congressional committees or the FBI.

Where in the hell do YOU get your news?

 

[Boxlicker101]

What's the relevance of this to anything? It's not the White House that gives anyone immunity from either congressional committees or the FBI.

Where in the hell do YOU get your news?

But the WH can issue pardons.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ons-clinton-snowden-pardon-attorney/93784856/

 

[JackLuis]

Box, do you think that Donald should take Mikey's word that Pense will pardon Trump for 'everything' if Pence 25th's his ass?

If Pence pounces and doesn't pardon the Donald and presses the "Trump Fuckery" as the 'diverting issue instead of another war? Using Trumps public trials and Appeals to divert the nation while the Establishments redeals the cards?

Trump crucified for being in the Russian pocket due to sordid money laundering?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Box, do you think that Donald should take Mikey's word that Pense will pardon Trump for 'everything' if Pence 25th's his ass?

If Pence pounces and doesn't pardon the Donald and presses the "Trump Fuckery" as the 'diverting issue instead of another war? Using Trumps public trials and Appeals to divert the nation while the Establishments redeals the cards?

Trump crucified for being in the Russian pocket due to sordid money laundering?

I'm not sure what you mean by all that, but I'm virtually certain The Donald will not be impeached or, at least, won't be convicted. Whether he will be reelected or not remains to be seen.

He has never been convicted of anything, and won't be, but Hillary still might go to jail for the sloppy way she handled classified material.

 

[M. Jordan]

I'm not sure what you mean by all that, but I'm virtually certain The Donald will not be impeached or, at least, won't be convicted. Whether he will be reelected or not remains to be seen.

He has never been convicted of anything, and won't be, but Hillary still might go to jail for the sloppy way she handled classified material.

Maybe but, its a little early in the game for such predictions. Watergate drug on for about two years. A lot can come to light this year as one after another is forced to testify.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Maybe but, its a little early in the game for such predictions. Watergate drug on for about two years. A lot can come to light this year as one after another is forced to testify.

I believe this "scandal" is a lot of smoke but no fire. The only reason it has lasted this long is that news media hates Trump so much and wants to give him as much grief as possible. Has anybody seen or read or heard anything concrete?

 

[M. Jordan]

I believe this "scandal" is a lot of smoke but no fire. The only reason it has lasted this long is that news media hates Trump so much and wants to give him as much grief as possible. Has anybody seen or read or heard anything concrete?

Actually I dont agree with that. Most of the things being reported on are developments coming from the FBI and congress. Maybe no one broke any laws, we shall see, but it does smell to high heaven. The fact that they shit canned Flynn so fast and now he is looking for cover says a lot. Thats not been the way these guys operate, typically they deny everthing until someone finds the blue dress with cum on it.