First major-party African-American presidential nominee
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It feels damn good.
TheeGoatPig
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So I guess the african american woman vice presidential candidate from a couple hundred years ago doesn't count?
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I was sort of pulling for Clinton (experience & healthcare) but I've never been against Obama and voting for him will be a snap. As for VP, Clinton would probably help the ticket most. I like Jim Webb, a lot, but I'd rather not risk losing his seat in the Senate. There are several other good possibilities, including Richardson.
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Hmmm. Webb is an opportunistic Republican retread. Anyone enchanted by him might check out what he did at the Naval Academy when he signed on as a guest lecturer there for a semester. Bears out the character traits I saw in him when he was the secretary of the navy. Just saying. (not to mention letting a Senate aide take the fall for smuggling a gun of his into his Senate office building recently--until he was directly accused). I sort of wonder if those who say they like Webb have any notion at all of his history and demonstrated beliefs.
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Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Nobody is official until the convention anoints them, and the Clintons have plenty of sneaky weapons up their sleeves.
Even McCain is only the "presumptive" nominee until after the convention......Carney
Even McCain is only the "presumptive" nominee until after the convention......Carney
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Even so, a McCain-Obama contest is the best news this country has had in decades. For the first time I could willingly vote for either and won't regret the election of the one I don't vote for. At least Billery seems out of the picture. And if I were Obama, I'd be looking really closely at Richardson. If I were McCain, I'd be doing my best to change Condi's mind. Of such things, dreams are made.
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I agree that I could live with either Obama or McCain as president, but the vice presidential choice for both might be a kicker for voting choice. I would not vote a ticket that had Webb on it (and, yes, I'm from Virginia and am a Democrat), and I continue to scratch my head at the suggestion of Rice--because she's done absolutely nothing presidential or that has been the least bit successful or endearing to me in terms of policy. Either of those as vice president would cause me not to vote that ticket, because neither one qualifies as presidential in my mind.
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Amen, Brother. For the first time in a good while, I will be voting FOR somebody - McCain, rather than AGAINST his opponent. That's barring the unexpected. I could cheerfully vote for Obama, and I already have, but I probably won't again.
I still predict that McCain will win one of the biggest landslides in history.
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Technically, it's five months. But who's counting?
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S-Des
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Not my candidate, but it's good to see someone different this time around. It's a shame that McCain can't compete with his speaking skills because this really will be a major chance to choose between different sets of ideas on where to take the country. I side more with McCain, but feel like we're already behind by 20 points with about 6 minutes left in the 4th quarter. He'll have to really make his case to overcome the things dragging down Republicans. Hopefully it will come down to ideas instead of the usual political nonsense, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Are you kidding? McCain is no powerhouse on the stump, but he delivers a lot more "straight talk" than Obama's vague generalities about "change" and "hope." I have to give McCain the slight edge in rhetoric.
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You and I might like his content, but in public speaking skills (at least in reading of a teleprompter or a memorized speech), Obama is easily the equal of Clinton or Reagan, and possibly better. McCain is going to have a difficult time convincing people of the superiority of his ideas when the other guy delivers these speeches that has audiences and media alike, swooning with admiration. Everyone's vote counts equally, so each person voting for "hope" or "change" gets the same weight as someone voting for real policy positions (and there'll be plenty of Dems voting on Obama's politics as well as his style). I still believe McCain is going to win (for a variety of reasons), but it is going to be very difficult and will require no major missteps on his part. Even in the debates (where Obama has been vulnerable), McCain has been adequate at best.
On the good news front, he met with Mike Murphy the other day. Getting Murph back on board would be an enormous help, both in packaging it to reach the most people, and crafting a coherent message that will convince them. So far I've been a little disappointed at the lack of clarity in what he's trying to say.
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I just can't bring myself to have any trust in a guy nicknamed after a small, bug eating salamander.
Liar
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Who? Educate me.
TheeGoatPig
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Who? Educate me.
I forgot her name, and who she was running with, and against. I heard it on some TV program with Robert Whul the other month, and have forgotten almost everything about it, except that she was a black woman, and wasn't on the winning side of the election.
Geraldine Anne Ferraro
It's was pre TV... she went by Gerry Ferraro, most voters thought she was an Irish-Italian
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1984 according to Wikipedia. Pre TV?Geraldine Anne Ferraro
It's was pre TV... she went by Gerry Ferraro, most voters thought she was an Irish-Italian
And not very black. So Thee must be thinking of someone else.
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As a native of NM I will say that you really don't want Richardson. I met him 25 years ago and was not impressed. I'm even less impressed today. Not an honest man by any measure.
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Everyone but me expected Hillary to give it up yesterday. She didnt, and I wasnt surprised.
The delegates dont count till late August, and I think she wont leave the arena until Bill and Chelsea drag her out by her feet. She reminds me of Hitler at his end.
Every minute she remains damages Obama with the polarity she creates. She makes Old Maids and Chickenkickers into Lost Cause Rebels.
The delegates dont count till late August, and I think she wont leave the arena until Bill and Chelsea drag her out by her feet. She reminds me of Hitler at his end.
Every minute she remains damages Obama with the polarity she creates. She makes Old Maids and Chickenkickers into Lost Cause Rebels.
