FIRED

[ChloeTzang]

ROTFLMAO. These people were warned for a decade what would happen if they pushed us too far

Celebrating a murder publicly and getting fired from your job as result isn’t being cancelled. It is the mildest form of just reprisal for your evil actions.

You created these rules and now you are going to feel the pain. Life as you used to know it is over. Business licenses - revoked. Drivers licenses - revoked. If you're a foreign student - revoked. If you're employed - fired! Be grateful that's all that will happen.

 

[ChloeTzang]

It's great to see that we, as a country, promote our greatest value of freedom of speech by literally not doing that. Great job America!

 

[ll74]

ROTFLMAO. These people were warned for a decade what would happen if they pushed us too far

Celebrating a murder publicly and getting fired from your job as result isn’t being cancelled. It is the mildest form of just reprisal for your evil actions.

You created these rules and now you are going to feel the pain. Life as you used to know it is over. Business licenses - revoked. Drivers licenses - revoked. If you're a foreign student - revoked. If you're employed - fired! Be grateful that's all that will happen.


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Mostly people were told that cancel culture is bad by the right.

And so now those people are practicing it regularly


Guess it was never really bad.

 

[ll74]

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The right: what you're doing is fascistic and anti liberty and anti American

Also the right: *does all the same things and blames the left*

 

[ChloeTzang]

The right: what you're doing is fascistic and anti liberty and anti American

Also the right: *does all the same things and blames the left*

No right winger wants you assassinated.

The right is mostly dealing with wannabe terrorists.....

 

[ll74]

The right is mostly dealing with wannabe terrorists.....

It's good to rationalize the behavior as good when you once suggested was bad.

It's bad, but we have to because you made us do it

 

[icanhelp1]

In Kirk's case, his love for the Second Amendment trumped his exercise of the First, as he himself would agree:

"We must also be real. We must be honest with the population. Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty... We need to be very clear that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen. But I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment."

You should all just thank good ol' Charlie for paying the "price" and get on with your lives.

What Charlie was reminiscent of is the age old axiom by Ben Franklin "those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Those words ring true today for all rights enumerated by our constitution, our bill of rights, not just taxation without representation.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
In Kirk's case, his love for the Second Amendment trumped his exercise of the First, as he himself would agree:

"We must also be real. We must be honest with the population. Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty... We need to be very clear that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen. But I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment."

You should all just thank good ol' Charlie for paying the "price" and get on with your lives.

What Charlie was reminiscent of is the age old axiom by Ben Franklin "those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Those words ring true today for all rights enumerated by our constitution, our bill of rights, not just taxation without representation.

Of course sensible gun regulation (like sensible regulation of speech) is not an infringement on liberty. In fact, it protects people, keeping them from being gunned down in mass shootings (averaging more than one per day in the United States). The Second Amendment is no more "absolute" than the First.

 

[1984X2024]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1967255771391074327

 

[1984X2024]

Of course sensible gun regulation (like sensible regulation of speech) is not an infringement on liberty. In fact, it protects people, keeping them from being gunned down in mass shootings (averaging more than one per day in the United States). The Second Amendment is no more "absolute" than the First.

Shove it and the bs of sensible

What u mean

You n elk can say n do everything

We can't

ANOTHER DEGENERATE

IGNORE

 

[ChloeTzang]

Over the past week, the American public discovered that substantial portions of the media, pundits, politicians, and academia and indeed, fellow Americans, consider the following positions to be radical:

1. Murder is wrong. - radical view

2. Murdering a person for having different political opinions is wrong. - radical view

3. It is wrong to celebrate at all, and especially publicly, the murder of a person who was murdered for having different political opinions. - radical view

4. A man with 14 arrests, including for assault, should have been tried and jailed (presuming guilt) for the crimes committed that led to the prior arrests. - radical view

5. A man who was a diagnosed schizophrenic with a history of violence, including assault against his sister, should have been involuntarily committed and institutionalized rather than allowed to wander the streets homeless. - nope, this is a radical view

6. A man who was a diagnosed schizophrenic with 13 prior arrests should not have been let free from jail on cashless bail after his 14th arrest. - radical view

7. People should be able to ride public transportation without worrying that they will be violently attacked and possibly even killed for sitting in a seat in front of another human being. - radical view

The response by millions of Americans to being told those positions are radical is not, as apparently is the desired response, oh no you are right, that is radical and I reject radicalism! No, the response is to shrug and say guess I'm radical.

And now that Charlie Kirk has been assassinated for the terrible crime of having civil conversations about political differences, the response is, if you think people laughing about it is sick and you want them fired, well, you're a radical.

Demonizing absolutely run of mill, common sense positions results in people saying, okay, I'm a radical or a nazi of whatever, and at that point being a Nazi startes to sound like common sense. AFter all, if they say all that is Nazi, then being a Nazi is good, right? All those tut tutting about turning the temperature down? Those at whom you are tut tutting did not turn the temperature up in the first place. Indeed, a substantial number of those people have been trying to blow out the flame for years. You laughed at them. You mocked them. You did your best to cancel them and jail them and fire them from their jobs.

I can tell you now how this story ends. Historically, it ends in rivers of blood.

And the left will continue to try to blow smoke up our assess until they have the civil war they so desperately crave because they literally cannot take a step back and look at themselves and what they're doing. If we're very very lucky, the left will be fired, expelled, deported, jailed, kicked off social meded and de-elected from public life and the Democrat Party will whither away in irrelevance. If we're merely lucky, we'll end up with a Pinochet who will deal with it by bringing in the helicopters. If we're unlucky, it'll be rivers of blood.

Much as I would like to hope, I really don't think we're going to be lucky. Trump is a Russian agent in some way, that much is obvious, and Vance? An open questionmark.

 

[ChloeTzang]

It's good to rationalize the behavior as good when you once suggested was bad.

It's bad, but we have to because you made us do it

At some point, that's usually how it works out, human nature being human nature. I won't arge with you over that one. It is what it is.

 

[ll74]

At some point, that's usually how it works out, human nature being human nature. I won't arge with you over that one. It is what it is.

Yes, it works out that you only believe it's bad when someone else does it.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
Of course sensible gun regulation (like sensible regulation of speech) is not an infringement on liberty. In fact, it protects people, keeping them from being gunned down in mass shootings (averaging more than one per day in the United States). The Second Amendment is no more "absolute" than the First.

Shove it and the bs of sensible

What u mean

You n elk can say n do everything

We can't

ANOTHER DEGENERATE

IGNORE

I can see your agitation is making it difficult for you to even type coherently. Maybe you should just ignore any post that you disagree with?

 

[icanhelp1]

Of course sensible gun regulation (like sensible regulation of speech) is not an infringement on liberty.

In most cities nation wide there are sensible gun regulations on the books but in order for them to work city and state leaders need to enforce their own laws.

In fact, it protects people, keeping them from being gunned down in mass shootings (averaging more than one per day in the United States).

We have a representative form of government. Hardening schools and places of worship is an easy fix. Legislators need to do their job and appropriate the funds necessary to enhance and increase the presence of law enforcement. Crime prevention is directly and indirectly proportional to the presence of law enforcement.

The Second Amendment is no more "absolute" than the First.

Wrong, perhaps you need a civics lesson.

 

[Hel_Books]

We have a representative form of government. Hardening schools and places of worship is an easy fix. Legislators need to do their job and appropriate the funds necessary to enhance and increase the presence of law enforcement. Crime prevention is directly and indirectly proportional to the presence of law enforcement.

.

Interesting how America is the only First World nation where these mass shootings are routine. Perhaps "hardening schools" isn't the secret?

 

[1984X2024]

It's never ever about guns

Its about Democrats...Crazies...criminals

All one and the same

 

[ChloeTzang]

Yes, it works out that you only believe it's bad when someone else does it.

Doesn't matter what I personally believe, just like it doesn't matter what you personally believe. Philosophically, that may be important to both of us, but it's irrelevant.

Most people, literally, do not think. They react emotionally, without any real conscious input. They are incapable of thinking without a lot of individual prompting. It's just the way it is. Most people won't rationalize. or if they do, it's very superficial. Look at this forum and how many people here actually really "think", versus react emotionally - and that is on a very self-selected Politics Board where we are all verbozsely articulate and argumentative. Half the people here can have their responses to any issue predicted nased on past behavior - there's a small subset, you and I included, who cross "sides" now and then and think outside our self-selected politicaL boxes and are prepared to argue to support that - but all that does is make us the exceptions amongst the exceptions. LOL

I accept this, just as I accept that my views are ot logical at times - but that's just the way people are. I will rationalize what I want to believe - except in my case I am open about not applying the same standards to bith sides. I wil say one thing is wrong when the left do it (it is) and I will say it's right of the right do it (it is) and that's not contradictory. LOL. I could write posts out the ying yang justifying and explaining that but really, a thousand other people have done that, so what the heck,

It IS bad when someone else does it - because for the left, its one step on the road to thought control and totalitarianism.

For the right. it's cancelling the wannabe terrorists out of public discourse in order to restore the norms of acceptabl behavior because otherwise we'd have to shoot them. C'est la vie.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Interesting how America is the only First World nation where these mass shootings are routine. Perhaps "hardening schools" isn't the secret?

Bull shit. Be honest here. If we took blacks out the the equation, the rest of America has a lower gun crime rate than Canada and every country in Europe.

Our problem is not gun related shootings. Our problem is black-related shootings. To address the issue, we need to be honest about the problem.

Othr countries are making the mistake of catching up with us and their crime rates and stats are beginning to reflect that.

 

[ChloeTzang]

It's never ever about guns

Its about Democrats...Crazies...criminals

All one and the same

Lets be honest. It is largely about racial crime, and it's black-related crime in large part. Blacks largely vote for Democrats, yes, and he Democrats are dependant on the black vote, so its a quid pro quo.

The solution is really easy.

We just ignore race, apply the law equally, with no fucking excuses - and apply the three strikes or five strikes or whatever - at that point it's irrelevant to all but the victim - and when you hit that limit, you are incarcerated until you die. No exceptions, no mental health get out of jail free cards, no nothing. If its murder and the evidence is clear (and not circumstantial) then its immediate execution and good riddance.

 

[icanhelp1]

Interesting how America is the only First World nation where these mass shootings are routine. Perhaps "hardening schools" isn't the secret?

Hardening our schools is just one of many approaches. Mental health, homelessness and substance abuse would have far greater positive effects than just banning firearms.

 

[BlackFlame112000]

No one is forcing you to be a member here, or have an account on X or Facebook. Don't use Google either. Or Microsoft.

In fact, just go hide under a rock. It's peaceful there and you won't have to put up with retarded Americans.

Oh, and when the illegal migrant hoard that's overrun your country comes for you, don't call us. We'll be busy being retards.

Oh please, I find the abundance of inept Americans quite fascinating, its like watching a ostrich stick its head in the ground
My use of Social Media and what I consume from it is entirely upto me, I would definitely not take advice from the likes of you, but thank you nonetheless
I am sure you'll keep being retards, you guys will have the same problems , maybe even worse since you'll keep turning a blind eye for far longer

But please, keep up you're "Arguments" and "Debates", they make Patrick Star look intelligent

 

[ll74]

Doesn't matter what I personally believe, just like it doesn't matter what you personally believe. Philosophically, that may be important to both of us, but it's irrelevant.

Except it does. If you say something is bad and then you do the bad thing, then you are knowingly doing something bad.

You can rationalize or blame others but it is still you doing the thing. .doesn't matter how long of an explanation you need to make it ok for yourself

 

[ll74]

Hardening our schools is just one of many approaches. Mental health, homelessness and substance abuse would have far greater positive effects than just banning firearms.

All things that this administration has removed funding from.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Except it does. If you say something is bad and then you do the bad thing, then you are knowingly doing something bad.

You can rationalize or blame others but it is still you doing the thing. .doesn't matter how long of an explanation you need to make it ok for yourself

I don't mind at all. Sometimes you have to do bad things form the greater good. It's a matter of degree. First, one has to define what is bad, of course.

ALtho I would say again that cancelling leftists, firing them, etc, for laughing at and supporting a murder is in no way comparable to cancelled conservatives for standing up for societal norms. One is good, the other is evil.