Financial Slavery/Submission

[catalina_francisco]

It seems this form of submission is becoming more read and talked about in some areas of the community, and is appearing on more checklists, so thought it would be an interesting topic of discussion which I have only seen one thread here loosely relate to (though there may be more I missed).

For those who are not familiar with the term, it usually refers to a form of submission whereby the submissive provides money and/or gifts to the Dominant, often with no expectation of anything in return. Often they have never met, often do not plan to, and the giving and acceptance of the gifts/money is seen as a priviledge bestowed on the submissive by their Dom/me. From what I have seen there is a more reference to it in the FemDom/male sub area than others, but it does exist elsewhere as well.

So what are people's thoughts on it? Has anyone ever participated in it from either side of the whip? Is it something people could see themselves doing? Is it a fetish as some refer to it, or is it purely submission, or both? What do people think are the advantages/disadvantages?

Catalina

Edited to add this site which might help explain what it is and how it works etc. Financial Slavery

 

[rosco rathbone]

From what I have seen there is a more reference to it in the FemDom/male sub area than others, but it does exist elsewhere as well.

The reverse is called "pimp play".

 

[catalina_francisco]

The reverse is called "pimp play".

LOL, but not as easily googled for, nor on the checklists, and damn that pimp wardrobe can hurt the eyes!!! Maybe it is just taken too much from granted because it conforms to more traditional set ups.

Catalina

 

[rosco rathbone]

One of my long-time fantasies is making a female turn her earnings over to me; haven't actually followed through on it, but I imagine it is rather common amongst masters.

 

[catalina_francisco]

One of my long-time fantasies is making a female turn her earnings over to me; haven't actually followed through on it, but I imagine it is rather common amongst masters.

For some I imagine it is reality just as it features as a fantasy for those on both sides of the whip.

Catalina

 

[Netzach]

I've partaken in this periodically. It's interesting.

I've noticed that the attention spans of the "piggybank" submissive tend to be very limited. Usually these are people on some kind of internal bender, feeling an overwhelming need to be useful, perhaps some kind of guilt that needs assuaging, who knows exactly. However, it's not exactly a fetish I'm going to turn my nose up at and the gifting/shedding of money/what have you certainly seems to provide the erotic kick to the participants.

I personally try and steer clear of things I find "bad karma." I don't do blackmail, I find it extremely tacky if nothing else. While it's fun to fantasize about ruination, I don't actually believe in sending anyone to live out in the gutter. Not everyone is much concerned about their karma, and I definitely advise the financial slave would-be to excercise some scrutiny and decide his/her limits and needs.

Yes, I get an erotic charge out of taking the cash, usually because this is accompanied by immense amounts of degradation and VA, which I find erotic in most contexts. There's also an immense power rush to taking money-- money is power in this society.

Periodically, financial service can be part of an established and built relationship, and/or financial bolstering of the slave/servant.

With my slave, the financial boons I have enjoyed are far less transient and fetishistic, they are more a part and parcel of his service to me. If I had more assets than the slave they would be employed in taking care of him to a degree...as he has more assets than I do, they are employed in seeing me get what I need to succeed and be comfortable in certain small ways.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Thanks for your openness Netzach. It fascinates me and interests me in a variety of ways. I had someone suggest they become my financial slave amongst other things about 15 years ago, but at that stage it was not something I had any experience or exposure to, nor did I understand enough about the many elements of this lifestyle to a level I believe I could have kept with it for any length of time or found any satisfaction beyond the monetary one. I suspect the man in question was one who would have wanted a more long term arrangement. As you say, karma is important and I tend to experience nudges from various life choices which find me weighing up the cause and effect of them and whether it is something I am prepared to risk. LOL, no wonder I am going grey!!

I do think if it were based on a need of the sub and not motivated out of greed and opportunism of the Dom/me it could be a rewarding experience for both. Reading the experiences and feelings of those who do give in such a way, it does not seem they are being taken advantage of as such, but it could be very easy for someone clever enough to manipulate for a time I imagine....but then that is true of so many aspects of relationships.

Catalina

 

[TaintedB]

I've never done this in a casual relationship, but it a commited one, I'd expect the sort of dominant that would interest me would want to control my wages, as much as he wants to control everything else about me. With someone who is trustworthy, this works out well. I've really enjoyed not having the responsibility for deciding how the cash gets spent. Some people claim doing things like this makes you a mental retard and unable to deal with your own finances later on if something ever happens to your relationship. As if you forget or something? It is to giggle!

 

[Stefani]

Doesn't this already exist everywhere? I think it's called marriage.

My mom always turned everything she made over to my dad, who took care of managing all their money, paying bills, etc...

Even though my dad might have taken care of all their finances, my mom still had a credit card and the ability to write a check from their joint account if she wanted to.

In a Domme/sub relationship, how far does this financial servitude extend? Would the sub have absolutely no money what-so-ever? Wouldn't that be a bit impractical?

If for practicality's sake the sub still does retain something like a credit card from the Domme's account... it's pretty much like a typical married relationship where one spouse takes care of all the money matters.

I'm just saying this, only to point out that maybe it's not as horrifying as it initially sounds.

Of course if the couple is not married, the sub would really be leaving themself at the complete and utter mercy of their Domme. Doubt I'd submit to financial slavery unless we were married. Then it really wouldn't matter.

 

[Aeroil]

Doesn't this already exist everywhere? I think it's called marriage.

My mom always turned everything she made over to my dad, who took care of managing all their money, paying bills, etc...

Even though my dad might have taken care of all their finances, my mom still had a credit card and the ability to write a check from their joint account if she wanted to.

In a Domme/sub relationship, how far does this financial servitude extend? Would the sub have absolutely no money what-so-ever? Wouldn't that be a bit impractical?

If for practicality's sake the sub still does retain something like a credit card from the Domme's account... it's pretty much like a typical married relationship where one spouse takes care of all the money matters.

I'm just saying this, only to point out that maybe it's not as horrifying as it initially sounds.

Of course if the couple is not married, the sub would really be leaving themself at the complete and utter mercy of their Domme. Doubt I'd submit to financial slavery unless we were married. Then it really wouldn't matter.

allowance, which can vary depending on how good the sub has been.
lol, I dunno, just a thought

 

[catalina_francisco]

Doesn't this already exist everywhere? I think it's called marriage.

My mom always turned everything she made over to my dad, who took care of managing all their money, paying bills, etc...

Even though my dad might have taken care of all their finances, my mom still had a credit card and the ability to write a check from their joint account if she wanted to.

In a Domme/sub relationship, how far does this financial servitude extend? Would the sub have absolutely no money what-so-ever? Wouldn't that be a bit impractical?

If for practicality's sake the sub still does retain something like a credit card from the Domme's account... it's pretty much like a typical married relationship where one spouse takes care of all the money matters.

I'm just saying this, only to point out that maybe it's not as horrifying as it initially sounds.

Of course if the couple is not married, the sub would really be leaving themself at the complete and utter mercy of their Domme. Doubt I'd submit to financial slavery unless we were married. Then it really wouldn't matter.

Not every marriage is geared that way. From what I have read, many instances of financial slavery are between a sub and Dom/me who have never met and may never meet. Add to that there is usually more than one slave/sub providing money and gifts to the same Dominant. Some are gifted with a phone call or photoes or sessions, but many are not. Seems for some it is a need, others a fetish, and no doubt there is even more reasons why people become involved. It is interesting.

Catalina

 

[witcha]

One day I was browsing bdsm personal in Poland..and in almost every ad of Dom or Domme there was sth like'submissive is encouraged to offer gifts etc in return for domination'...nothing more specific was given..but it always looked for me like a'Dom for hire' ad..but it might be just me..

 

[crazyivan]

at one time i was a financial slave. for me it was a fetish. I payed my mistress over the internet. I would give her gifts, send her money for her bills. There were other aspects to our relationship. She would domme me in other ways, and financial was just part of it. It comes back to the whole control. She had control over my finances as other parts of my life as well. She liked knowing that she was taking my money from me and using me. I liked the idea of being used.

In the current relationship that is not part of it. In fact it is more of the opposite. My new mistress likes to take care of me. Now she pays for most things, because she feels that this is more degrading. She is taking away my manhood. She is making me dependent on her. And I like this as well.

so really for me, it is just another aspect, and not something that I have had to do with everyone, just something that felt right with certain people.

 

[jasonlf]

It seems this form of submission is becoming more read and talked about in some areas of the community, and is appearing on more checklists, so thought it would be an interesting topic of discussion which I have only seen one thread here loosely relate to (though there may be more I missed).

For those who are not familiar with the term, it usually refers to a form of submission whereby the submissive provides money and/or gifts to the Dominant, often with no expectation of anything in return. Often they have never met, often do not plan to, and the giving and acceptance of the gifts/money is seen as a priviledge bestowed on the submissive by their Dom/me. From what I have seen there is a more reference to it in the FemDom/male sub area than others, but it does exist elsewhere as well.

So what are people's thoughts on it? Has anyone ever participated in it from either side of the whip? Is it something people could see themselves doing? Is it a fetish as some refer to it, or is it purely submission, or both? What do people think are the advantages/disadvantages?

Catalina

Edited to add this site which might help explain what it is and how it works etc. Financial Slavery

Um.

Financial dom looking for financial sub.

Send all monies to... oh, nevermind