FFF Foley the Fag from Florida

[amicus]

FFF Foley the Fag from Florida


Ah, yes, my ears are burning…I can hear you cursing, that god-damned Amicus, at it again….


The phrase, was spoken by a congressional paige as the ‘buzzword’ about Foley that all the paiges and interns knew about and stayed away from.

You might recall I mentioned a possible ‘October Surprise’ preceding the November elections; well that might be it…however…

You might also note a muted lessening of the fury from Capitol Hill over this scandal and a refocusing of televisions news (sic/entertainment) away from the issue.

I wondered about that….for a few hours…

The leak of the well known sexual preference of Foley and his improprieties, was released by a left wing site on the internet, one funded by billionaire Soros who has a penchant for sponsoring liberal dirty tricks media outlets. The timing was admitted to be political in nature, the intent to disrupt the election with a sex scandal…fully admitted from several sources and confirmed.

What they may not have taken into consideration is a possible backlash against Democrats in general, but the Gay community in specific.

There are several homosexual members of Congress that I can name and most likely quite a few more out of all the Senators and Representatives, who may or may not reflect the demographics of the society at large.

I would suggest that if the investigation continues, both sides of the aisle will discover other inappropriate events and an even wider scandal and greater disgust for the Congressional body will follow.

Which fuels my prediction that the news bubbling up will be muted and damped down in the next week or so.

Aren’t elections great theatre? Let the games continue!!!


Amicus…

 

[Guest]

The Right might have to be introspective if not for the boogeymen of Clinton and Soros. With those two to blame everything on, they never, ever have to consider if their own actions, are perhaps, not right.

What's wrong with a person contributing money for political purposes? The Right cannot understand why a wealthy man might donate to a cause other than the party of the rich, is my theory.

And no party can complain of dirty tricks when they have Karl Rove, Swift Boating, and whispers, as in 2000, that Vietnam left McCain "you know, not quite right in the head", that started aftr McCain won the New Hampshire primary in 2000 or that Max McClelland was unpatriotic.

 

[S-Des]

And no party can complain of dirty tricks when they have Karl Rove, Swift Boating, and whispers, as in 2000, that Vietnam left McCain "you know, not quite right in the head", that started aftr McCain won the New Hampshire primary in 2000 or that Max McClelland was unpatriotic.

I agree with this completely. Rove is from here and has a long history of being a scumbag (including roughing himself up and claiming it was ruffians who worked for a rival politician). The last straw for me was McCain. I really like him and wanted him to be our president. To hear draft-dodger Limbaugh make fun of him on the radio made me lose any and all respect for Republicans.

Unfortunately, I don't respect the Democrats either. So now what???

 

[Guest]

Unfortunately, I don't respect the Democrats either. So now what???

I used to work for a company that swapped department level heads frequently. Their attitude was "if it isn't working--try something, anything new". Things never seemed to get worse, and often got better.

You acknowledgte Republicans aren't working. So try the alternative. You might be surprised. And things can't get any worse.

And if you can't stomach that, stay home on election day.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Amicus,

It appears that the leak actually originated with a Republican Assistant in Hastet's office. Then the day the shit storm started, the Republican Leadership jumped in to blame the Democrates for dirty politicing. This seems more like dirty politicing on the Republican side that backfired more than anything else.

 

[amicus]

Well, Jenny, I only repeated what I heard and saw on the news...however...

It does not seem rational to me that the Republicans would release that kind of scandalous information less than a month before an election.

Believe what you will, I suppose.

amicus...

 

[wazhazhe]

The leak of the well known sexual preference of Foley and his improprieties, was released by a left wing site on the internet, ...

No, you're wrong. Unless, of course, you are refering to ABC News as a left wing web site.

 

[amicus]

No, I am not wrong, I heard what I heard, although it was last evening...perhaps ABC has a spin of their own, not beyond ABC by any means...

amicus...

 

[wazhazhe]

No, I am not wrong, I heard what I heard, although it was last evening...perhaps ABC has a spin of their own, not beyond ABC by any means...

amicus...

The voices you hear doesn't make the information correct. The story was broken by Brian Ross of ABC.

 

[Liar]

No, I am not wrong, I heard what I heard, although it was last evening...perhaps ABC has a spin of their own, not beyond ABC by any means...

amicus...

I'm suprised anything is beyond anybody these days. The less-than-dramatic voice re-enactment on ABC (I think it was) of Foley's mildly dirty chat sessions had me crying from laughter long before it hit The Daily Show.

Liberal media conspiracy? Beats me. Would any side do the amiable thing this close to an election?

 

[amicus]

wazhazhe]The voices you hear doesn't make the information correct. The story was broken by Brian Ross of ABC.

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Mark FoleyThe Mark Foley scandal, which broke in late September 2006, centers on sexually explicit and solicitative e-mails and instant messages allegedly sent by Mark Foley, a Republican Congressman from Florida, to former congressional pages[1][2] and the response of Republican congressional leaders to alleged warnings about Foley's contacts with the pages.[3][4][5][6][7]

The questionable conversations, which allegedly took place between 1997[8] and 2005, are under investigation by the FBI and Florida officials for possible criminal violations. Foley resigned from the United States House of Representatives on the September 29, 2006. His lawyer issued a statement saying that "Mark explicitly reaffirms his acceptance of responsibility and remorse. He reiterates unequivocally that he has never had sexual contact with a minor."[9] [10][11] Foley checked into a rehabilitation clinic and announced through his attorney that he is alcoholic, was himself molested as a teenager, and that he is gay.[12][13]

The Republican congressional leadership has been criticized for not investigating Foley's behavior. Kirk Fordham, Foley's former chief of staff, claimed he complained to Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert and other congressional leaders about Foley's "inappropriate behavior"—but not about any specific contacts.[14] It has also contributed to conflict within the Republican Party, as some prominent members blame the leadership, including calls for Hastert's resignation.[15][16][17]

Contents [hide]
1 Messages
1.1 E-mails
1.2 Instant messages
1.3 Message excerpts
2 Foley's response
3 Congress
3.1 Knowledge before September 2006
3.2 House Page Board
3.3 Role of Leadership members
3.3.1 Dennis Hastert
3.3.2 Tom Reynolds
3.3.3 John Shimkus
3.3.4 John Boehner
4 Investigations
4.1 House Ethics Committee
4.2 Justice Department
5 Responses to the scandal
5.1 Democrats
5.2 Republicans
5.3 Gay community
5.4 White House/President Bush
5.5 Conservative groups
5.6 Recipients of Foley's fundraising
5.7 Family of former page from Louisiana
6 Political impact
6.1 Post-scandal polls and commentary
6.2 Columnists and analysts
6.3 Effect in Foley's district
6.4 Independent market predictions
7 Page program
8 Legal issues
8.1 The ages of majority and consent
8.2 Alcohol use
9 References
10 See also
11 External links



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Messages
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E-mails
In 2005, Foley sent five emails, some of them suggestive, to a 16-year-old former page sponsored by Rep. Rodney Alexander (R-LA). Among other things, Foley asked for a photo of the page, and expressed admiration for the physique of another young male friend. The page forwarded the emails to a colleague in Alexander's office, saying "this really freaked me out," and repeating the word "sick" 13 times to describe the photo request. He added, "if you can, please tell Rodney [Alexander] about this." [18][19]

Two Florida newspapers, the St. Petersburg Times and the Miami Herald, acquired copies of these emails from undisclosed sources in 2005, but decided not to publish a story.[20] The St Petersburg Times editors decided it was probably just a "friendly chit-chat." Nonetheless, they assigned two reporters to investigate in November 2005. The recipient of the email refused to cooperate with the story, and no other pages they interviewed had complaints about correspondence with Foley. The Times revisited their investigation "more than once," ultimately choosing not to break the story.[21] Fox News also received the emails, but did not pursue them.[22]

In July 2006, a paid Republican Congressional staffer sent copies of the emails to several Washington media organizations through an intermediary.[23] On July 21, the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) received copies of the emails.[19] On that day, CREW turned over the emails to the FBI; however, the FBI found insufficient grounds to open a criminal investigation.[12] After the scandal broke, CREW asked the Justice Department's Inspector General to investigate that decision.[19]

On September 24, 2006, a blog named Stop Sex Predators[24] publicly released the emails. Radar has since speculated that the blog was set up specifially to publicize the emails.[11][25] The political humor blog Wonkette drew readers' attention to the posted emails on September 27.[26] The next day, September 28, Brian Ross of ABC News reported on the same set of e-mails, which he had received in August from a Republican source.[27][20]
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[Jenny_Jackson]

Well, Jenny, I only repeated what I heard and saw on the news...however...

It does not seem rational to me that the Republicans would release that kind of scandalous information less than a month before an election.

Believe what you will, I suppose.

amicus...

There are some conflicting reports on who released the story. The latest I've heard is it was passed by an aid to Rep Alexander from Louisana. Then when ABC got hold of it that same aid (in one report) or and aid from Hastlet's office (in another version) went to ABC News and tried to squash the story. By doing that, they confired the material and shot themselves in the foot. I have not been able to find any reference of the Democrats either knowing about Foley or using it other than Hastlet's initial remark that the Democrats were behind the scandal (which was rather recanted yesterday).

 

[dr_mabeuse]

As far as I'm concerned, as long as he didn't break any laws, Foley's private sex life is no one's concern but his own. Just as Clinton's private sex life or George Bush's or Barney Frank's or yours or mine are our own.

 

[wazhazhe]

On September 24, 2006, a blog named Stop Sex Predators[24] publicly released the emails.

I stand corrected.

What I don't see is evidence as to who is behind the blog.

 

[amicus]

[QUOTE=wazhazhe]I stand corrected.

What I don't see is evidence as to who is behind the blog.[/QUOTE]


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My only source for that is Brit Hume on Fox news yesterday afternoon....


amicus...

 

[Guest]

As far as I'm concerned, as long as he didn't break any laws, Foley's private sex life is no one's concern but his own. Just as Clinton's private sex life or George Bush's or Barney Frank's or yours or mine are our own.

But the age of the boys and the fact they were employees bothers me. I can't get past that, legal or no. They didn't ask Foley to stop sending emails, their parents did.

Sad.

 

[S-Des]

But the age of the boys and the fact they were employees bothers me. I can't get past that, legal or no. They didn't ask Foley to stop sending emails, their parents did.

Sad.

Exactly. He may have broken the internet predator law. Even if he didn't they were children who worked for him. There's a word for bosses who hit on young employees...scumbags. He's fired, that's a start. Unfortunately, ABC has already accidently released the young boy's name, which is exactly what his parents didn't want (and probably why they asked Hastert to talk to Foley instead of making a formal complaint).

It seems that releasing the document when they did has had the desired effect though, there has been an immediate shift in the polls. Republicans are down in many races. I wouldn't mind a change, at least to see if Dem's can actually do anything, but it's a shitty way to win an election (leaking a sex scandal at the last second). But I guess that's politics today. Both sides do it, so I'm not going to throw stones.

 

[Huckleman2000]

[QUOTE=wazhazhe]I stand corrected.

What I don't see is evidence as to who is behind the blog.

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My only source for that is Brit Hume on Fox news yesterday afternoon....


amicus...[/QUOTE]

Brit Hume

At any rate, if the Democrats have managed to become organized enough to orchestrate this scandal, which I really, really doubt , all I can say is ABOUT FUCKING TIME!

Payback's a bitch.