Feudal Japan, Sex with Fighter

MechaBlade

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I have a lot of story ideas and not enough time and drive to write them all. However, most of my story ideas I wouldn't feel comfortable putting into the hands of a stranger. Looking through my "To Write" story list I found this one that I feel most writers could do justice. And I don't think I'll get to it for a while. So here is my detailed idea.

In feudal Japan, a woman goes to a retired samurai/ninja to learn how to become a samurai/ninja. He lives far away from any town, but no man from her village will teach a woman the deadly martial arts. Knowing that he has trained women before, she tries him.

He refuses, explaining that he's retired. Certain that all he needs is a demonstration of her budding talent, she fights him. He easily defeats her, stripping her with his sword as they fight, somewhat like Zorro does to Catherine Zeta Jones in that one scene in "The Legend of Zorro." Mostly naked and running out of ideas, she offers her body to him, which he takes. Or it could be more nonconsentual, like he just takes her. Either way, they have sex.

Then I was thinking he would tell her he still doesn't want to train her, and send her home in some old clothes of his. I'm not really that attached to the end, so if you wanted to make it happier with him changing his mind on training her, that would be okay.

Any takers?

MechaBlade
 
Just wandering by

Same situation: lots of ideas, no time.

Yeah, I see your point about the end. She becomes a bit of a bimbo if he beats her then trains her because she is a good bonk, and she is more of a bimbo if she does not even get what she wants. I would prefer it if she somehow proved herself.

What if the master says he will send her home anyway (so he has revealed himself as a cad) but she responds that she had lost interest in training with him anyway because if he was any good he would never have fallen for the poisoned fingernail trick ... and he dies :)
 
The problem with stories like these is that I always get drawn out of the experience if it's not realistic, either to the time period or the area. I would love to read something like this, but it'd have to be written by someone who either had lots of knowledge in this field or could successfully BS their way through it.
 
Write about what you know; if you don't know anything there is always high fantasy :p.
 
The problem with sticking to absolute realism in a story like this is that this woman would never be accepted as a pupil in this Bushido school of swordsmanship, under any circumstance. There simply were no female samurai, because they weren't perscriped that role. There were female assassins, but no woman would be permitted to own or emply a Katana.

Having said that, it is a brilliant idea for a story, and I can remember a very similar scenario in a published bit of erotica that I used to have. It was on Blue Moon press, but I honestly can't remember the exact title of the book. I remember one bit vividly where these two female nuns were abducted and forced to perform a No play, all while being groped and fondled by the villian. The bit I recall, was that the two main characters were visiting a feudal lord, and fought two of his female guards. They were promised that, should they defeat them, they could use them as they wanted -and this led quite obviously to sex. The one girl was willing, but the other fought tooth and nail against her eventual rape. I REALLY wish I could recall the name of that book, and I have no idea why I eventually got rid of it.
 
According to what I have been told about Ancient Japan Women in Samuri some clans were taught just as the men were in swordsmanship and martial arts.

Samuri were samuri, although they may not go to war they were expected to know these things, and if called upon to use them defend the house or their the lord, or defend their honor.

Samuri women were also called upon to commit suicide if required by circumstance or by order. They did it with a thrust of a knife into their throats, unlike the men who disemboweled themselves.

As they were the nobility, the women would have had the time and social direction to do these things, at least in some periods and in some families.
 
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Firstly, samurai and ninja are two entirely different things. Samurai were warlords and landowners; basically the same thing as a European knight during the middle ages, although more dedicated to his leige. They also practiced Bushido, a code of honor.

Ninjas, however, were thieves, murderers, kidnappers, assasins, smugglers... in short, if it was illegal, they did it. They also had no official code of honor, though it's possible that the occasional ninja had a personal one.

I suppose, technically, a ninja could have somehow weaseled his way into the position of samurai, but that would be like a street thief in mideval Europe somehow weaseling his way into the position of knight, but harder.

Sorry, I'm kinda anal about these things.
 
I've always thought it might be interesting to write an erotic short based on some of the neater bits of the "hagakure" but I don't know if it could be pulled off.

love your sig line, star - lol

Chicklet
 
Nothing to be sorry about!

Star of Penumbra said:

Sorry, I'm kinda anal about these things.

Though some people may find it "boring" to read a "totally honest and realistic" story, I feel the more realism a story has the better it is.

Like KillerVanity said, if someone doesn't know what they're talking about, they'd better be a great bull shitter! If a story seems way out of base, for me, I won't finish it. That BACK button can be a good friend at times.

Keep in mind, I am not knocking Sci-Fi stories. I haven't read many, but the few I've read I have enjoyed. I also enjoy some Sci-Fi shows and movies. But, what makes them good is their believability. (Is that a word? lol) It's kinda like... What makes a good movie and what makes a "B" movie? The fact that the alien sucking your brain seems real enough to happen. ;) (Independence Day...good! :D Earth Girls Are Easy...bad! :D )


~Dirty Whore
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Re: Nothing to be sorry about!

DirtyWhore said:
What makes a good movie and what makes a "B" movie? The fact that the alien sucking your brain seems real enough to happen. ;) (Independence Day...good! :D Earth Girls Are Easy...bad! :D )


~Dirty Whore
:kiss:

So what a story needs to be convincing is a multimillion dollar special effects buget. fair enough ;)
 
In general, if it's campy and has mostly unknown actors, it's a B movie. The Evil Dead, The Evil Dead 2, and Army of Darkness are decent examples of B movies.
 
peterpan said:

So what a story needs to be convincing is a multimillion dollar special effects buget. fair enough ;)

lol Cute. She had a point, though. It could work with stories as well as movies.
 
BlessedBe said:
lol Cute. She had a point, though. It could work with stories as well as movies.

Don't I know it. If people could even just hear the sound effects that go with my tales they would be instant hits, I am sure :p
 
Samurai style

Doing it in the donjon! Yeah, I like the old samurai arms and armor, you could make the story similar to a knight in shining armor, except darker. More sinister, hehe.

Yours, Ian:rose:
 
Incidentally, women were allowed to learn how to fight in fuedal Japan. Thier traditional fighting style was naginata- a style emphasising long, sweeping blows, and the use of a weapon by the same name. For a while, it was the only style women were allowed to learn. You can find more information about it here
 
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The length of its oval shaft varied, from 5' to 8', depending on battle conditions and personal requests. The most striking feature, however, was the blade; it could be anywhere from 10 inches to more than 2 feet, and was sharpened on a single side,


Good lord...thats a big weapon. I have enought trouble with kenjitsu as it is, fighting someone with a polearm like a naginata would be a nightmare.

I guess thats why samuri men were archers too. Its much safer that way if you have a domestic dispute.
Remember guys, its not if you win the fight with your wife, its if you make it out of the kitchen ALIVE if she is weilding that thing.
(shudder)

I would hate to fight that with a sword. the length would be a distinct advantage, and if it was maybe 5 to 6 foot staf with a 18 inch blade you are talking something that could be used indoors if used tightly, and in open space a fucking pain in the ass.
 
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Star of Penumbra said:
Incidentally, women were allowed to learn how to fight in fuedal Japan. Thier traditional fighting style was naginata- a style emphasising long, sweeping blows, and the use of a weapon by the same name. For a while, it was the only style women were allowed to learn. You can find more information about it here

See, I'm willing to bet that most people who will read my (if I ever get around to it) story aren't as well educated about the specifics of what martial arts people were trained in during Japan's feudal era. There is little chance of me referring to naginata (well, maybe more of a chance now) in the story. This is what I mean by artistic license.
 
Evil Attorney said:
I would hate to fight that with a sword. the length would be a distinct advantage, and if it was maybe 5 to 6 foot staf with a 18 inch blade you are talking something that could be used indoors if used tightly, and in open space a fucking pain in the ass.

That's what daikyu and shuriken were for.
 
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