Feminists suggest porn should be considered hate speech.

[LJ_Reloaded]

So now feminists want to bring back up the subject of banning porn in society. This article started with a ban on porn in prisons, and then decided to go on about how porn is a society-wide problem.

A fucking hate crime.

http://www.feministcurrent.com/2015/10/27/porn-is-a-privilege-not-a-right/

What baffles me is that pornography is not, as of yet, legally defined as hate speech, considering the amount of literal hate speech in porn.

What should be clear, at very least — even to those who wish to pretend “consensual” racism and sexism are acceptable — is that porn makes women feel harassed, disrespected, and unsafe. While Sloan argued that there was no evidence that inmates’ porn consumption lead to an increase in harassment of female correctional officers, you have to wonder why, if there was no impact, these women complained in the first place… You have to wonder why, more generally, porn is banned in workplaces because women interpret it as sexual harassment, which is, you know, illegal nowadays.

Despite the fact that this decision to ban porn was made with the safety of women in mind, Naraine and many others believe this infringes on men’s human rights.

The thing is, hate speech and sexual harassment are not human rights. So this debate about porn access is not about rights at all. It’s about privilege, specifically male privilege.

 

[Vagina_Dentata]

So...watching big black nigger dick porn shouldn't make me feel "uncomfortable"?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

So...watching big black nigger dick porn shouldn't make me feel "uncomfortable"?

Trust me, that kind of porn isn't for white men. It's probably meant to humiliate white man, or more for the arousal of some women. Think of all the black dildos out there, or erotic romance novels with the exact same theme. The example you were probably thinking of is when they call black women niggers - a theme that is highly likely to exist though I have never seen it. There is a prodigious amount of themes concerning Asian women that could easily and rightfully be called racist - which white male consumers would probably love.

The thing is, she's accusing all porn of being like this, when it is overwhelmingly not. And this feminist nutjob literally says nothing about romance novels, 99% of which are sexist as fuck and probably 50% of which are highly racist in that it objectifies and fetishes some ethnicity or another. But they're also written by women, sooooo that's okay because RATIONALIZATIONS.

On an off-topic note: In another article, she openly states in the comments section that she feels she should be able to cheat around on her boyfriend, but he shouldn't be cheating around on her.

This is how feminism rolls.

 

[Rachel_X]

Feminism is all about standing up for women's rights.
This includes my right to watch porn.
If anyone tries to take it from me, they will die.

 

[Jovenes_Latina]

Feminism is all about standing up for women's rights.
This includes my right to watch porn.
If anyone tries to take it from me, they will die.

The story LJ_Reloaded posted was not from real feminists. These self proclaimed feminists are not supporters of or warriors for equal rights for women. They're whats referred to as "Misandrists". They feel an all out war against men and everything men like is needed to establish women in today's society. They don't seek nor want equal rights, they seek and desire absolute domination and want to replace men as the dominate sex. REAL Feminists just want equality and thats coming very close to being achieved and real feminists don't believe in an all out war against men because allot of them love the men their with.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

The story LJ_Reloaded posted was not from real feminists. These self proclaimed feminists are not supporters of or warriors for equal rights for women. They're whats referred to as "Misandrists". They feel an all out war against men and everything men like is needed to establish women in today's society. They don't seek nor want equal rights, they seek and desire absolute domination and want to replace men as the dominate sex. REAL Feminists just want equality and thats coming very close to being achieved and real feminists don't believe in an all out war against men because allot of them love the men their with.

Well, they are indistinguishable from the right wing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

 

[Sean Renaud]

Still hating on women all the live long day.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Still hating on women all the live long day.

That's been LeJackass' mission for as long as I've been on Lit. It all stems from the barely repressed rage at his departed mother, and likely now the ex he never mentions anymore.

 

[nerfhearder]

Dude thinks he's gonna get a sex robot. I know I keep beating that horse but holy shit it's funny.
It's no wonder he's so down on women, anyone who wants a creepy ass virgin pocket pussy and a sex robot aint exactly hitting it off with the ladies.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

So...watching big black nigger dick porn shouldn't make me feel "uncomfortable"?

Suck it up!

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Still hating on women all the live long day.

Showing documented facts is hating on women?

Facts are misogyny!

No wonder even women are rebelling against feminism.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Dude thinks he's gonna get a sex robot. I know I keep beating that horse but holy shit it's funny.
It's no wonder he's so down on women, anyone who wants a creepy ass virgin pocket pussy and a sex robot aint exactly hitting it off with the ladies.

"Women need men like fish need a bicycle." = okay with self hating manginas like you.

"Men want sex robots" = misogyny and woman hating.

Gotcha.

 

[ChibiFangirl]

There are different levels of feminism, like there is religon. Most first and second wave feminist have strict views about porn while third wave are more open minded.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

There are different levels of feminism, like there is religon. Most first and second wave feminist have strict views about porn while third wave are more open minded.

The teen genre, the barely-18 genre, Facial Abuse series and all the other Max Hardcore knockoffs, ironically, fit exactly the nightmare portrayal of porn that old school sex-negative feminists were preaching about.

In particular, Facial Abuse is rife with allegations of ignoring women's safewords and subtle coercive tactics.

http://porninthevalley.com/2012/04/...bout-abuse-suffered-while-performing-in-porn/

https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/1zn24c/realistically_what_can_be_done_to_take_down/

 

[Jovenes_Latina]

All of this stuff between feminists ( regardless of what type of feminist ) , men and some feminist's imaginative patriarchy is nothing more then a Gender Civil War that nether side will win. Nether side realizes this ether. There is NO WAY to win this. Small battles may be won but in the long run there is no way ether side will have a clear winner do to the fact that both sides NEED each other to exist and survive. One side being more dominate then the other wont work in today's world. If women became the dominate sex they'd face the same problems men did and the vicious cycle would begin again. I strongly believe that some use this "war" to further their own agenda rather then furthering the cause they're apart of ( Feminism / Male rights ).....but then again thats no different then any other selfish politician trying to make themselves important on the back of an important cause ( and will dump the cause once the power is obtained ) to grab whatever power they can.

 

[nerfhearder]

The teen genre, the barely-18 genre, Facial Abuse series and all the other Max Hardcore knockoffs, ironically, fit exactly the nightmare portrayal of porn that old school sex-negative feminists were preaching about.

In particular, Facial Abuse is rife with allegations of ignoring women's safewords and subtle coercive tactics.

http://porninthevalley.com/2012/04/...bout-abuse-suffered-while-performing-in-porn/

https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/1zn24c/realistically_what_can_be_done_to_take_down/

A woman (or man) signs up to do a scene for something called Facial Abuse, they don't really get to bitch about being facially abused. Plus the people who do that shit are porn throwaways anyway. On the way down to back alley $5 blowjobs.

 

[OjosMojo]

All of this stuff between feminists ( regardless of what type of feminist ) , men and some feminist's imaginative patriarchy is nothing more then a Gender Civil War that nether side will win. Nether side realizes this ether. There is NO WAY to win this. Small battles may be won but in the long run there is no way ether side will have a clear winner do to the fact that both sides NEED each other to exist and survive. One side being more dominate then the other wont work in today's world. If women became the dominate sex they'd face the same problems men did and the vicious cycle would begin again. I strongly believe that some use this "war" to further their own agenda rather then furthering the cause they're apart of ( Feminism / Male rights ).....but then again thats no different then any other selfish politician trying to make themselves important on the back of an important cause ( and will dump the cause once the power is obtained ) to grab whatever power they can.

Except in your own, obvious advance of EQUALITY, you need to totally dismiss any natural domination which exists between the sexes.

While that is certainly THE goal, as far as EQUALITY goes, it's also a utopian fart ideal if such natural domination actually does exists.*

For, if in fact that natural domination does exist, the greater harm to all humanity is working AGAINST that natural order, for doing so is exactly what produces FRICTION in the first place.

So many, many human ills are fully fabricated from such utopian want (friction) instead of natural respect (peace)...

One cannot conquer, overpower, or even equalize gravity: one must acknowledge gravity for the natural truth it is - and to learn from it - in order to advance in spite of its truth and to live peacefully with it.



* I am in no way referring to all the wannabe sexual doms who so pitifully pimp their egos' shortcomings all over this site.

 

[lovecraft68]

A woman (or man) signs up to do a scene for something called Facial Abuse, they don't really get to bitch about being facially abused. Plus the people who do that shit are porn throwaways anyway. On the way down to back alley $5 blowjobs.

Okay so when Jodie foster signed on for the part in the accused had she really been raped during the filming she would have no right to complain?

That's the logic you're using.

Regardless of how hardcore and humiliating a scene is its still a scene and fantasy and rules are rules. Max hardcore alone is enough fo a reason people had a poor view of porn years ago, but he's a dinosaur that is going against the newer softer more erotic sites and a cleaned up industry.

Let's ask James Deen how logic like yours is working out.

And modern porn stars are no longer desperate crack heads and runaways like they were years ago.

Sounds like you're stuck in the seventies world of misogyny. You should be right at home in these threads.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

All of this stuff between feminists ( regardless of what type of feminist ) , men and some feminist's imaginative patriarchy is nothing more then a Gender Civil War that nether side will win. Nether side realizes this ether. There is NO WAY to win this. Small battles may be won but in the long run there is no way ether side will have a clear winner do to the fact that both sides NEED each other to exist and survive. One side being more dominate then the other wont work in today's world. If women became the dominate sex they'd face the same problems men did and the vicious cycle would begin again. I strongly believe that some use this "war" to further their own agenda rather then furthering the cause they're apart of ( Feminism / Male rights ).....but then again thats no different then any other selfish politician trying to make themselves important on the back of an important cause ( and will dump the cause once the power is obtained ) to grab whatever power they can.

That "some" you refer to are the Plutocrats, to be honest.

A woman (or man) signs up to do a scene for something called Facial Abuse, they don't really get to bitch about being facially abused. Plus the people who do that shit are porn throwaways anyway. On the way down to back alley $5 blowjobs.

Uh, no, there is such a thing as signing up for one thing and getting something completely different. Facial Abuse was a dangerous example of this. Especially when the woman wants to quit the scene and she's surrounded by a bunch of men who, by their presence and posture, make her feel like she can't quit.

Facial Abuse thrives on mostly newbie women who don't know how bad things can get in their porno shoots. A lot of women quit porn after running into these assholes.

Regardless of how hardcore and humiliating a scene is its still a scene and fantasy and rules are rules. Max hardcore alone is enough fo a reason people had a poor view of porn years ago, but he's a dinosaur that is going against the newer softer more erotic sites and a cleaned up industry.

Honestly I wish that was the case. You still got Ghetto Gaggers, Facial Abuse, and other really hard core series out there that took Max Hardcore's ball and ran with it. The industry is far from being cleaned up.

The customer base itself ain't cleaning up. The chief complaint about Kink, for instance, is that their scenes are "clearly" fake. By scenes, I mean the ones where women appear to be seriously abused and in distress. On the other hand there's also fans who say "I can fap to this because thankfully I know it's fake." The industry isn't cleaned up but there is hope.

One cannot conquer, overpower, or even equalize gravity

Tell that to the Apollo mission astronauts.

 

[lovecraft68]

Kink.com is legit, those scenes appear to be the most brutal crazy shit out there, but the people who run them are long time BDSM masters/mistresses and they are the real deal, they control everything and at any sign of an issue everything stops.

They take the edge off for people like me who don't want to watch real abuse by always starting the scenes showing the woman-pr man-stating his fantasy, then at the end sitting there in a robe talking about how much they like it

Which as you said ruins it for real rape fans.

You're right porn will always have its dark corners of the world and the pigs who enjoy that.

But porn has blown up because women are now watching it and producing directing for every Max asshat there are dozens of sites like X-art, passion HD, Viv thomas and other slower more erotic venues where you're not filming abuse, just hot sex.

Difference now I suppose if the girls have choices what they do and unfortunately for young actresses with no name for themselves the real money is in the brutal blow bangs and gang bangs, there's a reason you don't see too many 'name' actresses doing them.

Except for Sasha Grey who will still do anything despite being big enough to write her own ticket.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Kink.com is legit, those scenes appear to be the most brutal crazy shit out there, but the people who run them are long time BDSM masters/mistresses and they are the real deal, they control everything and at any sign of an issue everything stops.

They take the edge off for people like me who don't want to watch real abuse by always starting the scenes showing the woman-pr man-stating his fantasy, then at the end sitting there in a robe talking about how much they like it

Which as you said ruins it for real rape fans.

You're right porn will always have its dark corners of the world and the pigs who enjoy that.

But porn has blown up because women are now watching it and producing directing for every Max asshat there are dozens of sites like X-art, passion HD, Viv thomas and other slower more erotic venues where you're not filming abuse, just hot sex.

Difference now I suppose if the girls have choices what they do and unfortunately for young actresses with no name for themselves the real money is in the brutal blow bangs and gang bangs, there's a reason you don't see too many 'name' actresses doing them.

Except for Sasha Grey who will still do anything despite being big enough to write her own ticket.

That's true, actually yeah you were on point with that.

To add to this, women are also doing their own cam shows. To the extent that they're taking their agency by moving to cam shows, this is a hella good thing. A lot of unknowns are also showing up on cam shows - the very group that the brutal blow bangs crowd targets the most.

Plus the cam shows were, for a while, better protected against, ehm, copyright violations. Though I am on a torrent site whose users fucked said protections up the ass.

 

[OjosMojo]

Tell that to the Apollo mission astronauts.

Oh, they figured that out long before you dripped down your daddy's leg, wannabe.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Oh, they figured that out long before you dripped down your daddy's leg, wannabe.

Hey tony the tryhard, what they figured out

long before you dripped out of your mother's asshole

Was that they could in fact conquer gravity. And they did in fact conquer gravity.

That's how they got to the moon, dumbass.

 

[OjosMojo]

Hey tony the tryhard, what they figured out

long before you dripped out of your mother's asshole

Was that they could in fact conquer gravity. And they did in fact conquer gravity.

That's how they got to the moon, dumbass.

You wannabe manly man. Ugh. You conquer gravity. Ugh. You make gravity your bitch. Ugh.

Why then, manly man, are you still so entirely susceptible to it?

 

[seamus221]

Its just a bunch of angry females blaming men for their problems and they tend to self hate their own sex.

Being a woman means you own the world,hell if the Democrats and the female fringe groups keep going you'll soon lose your power over men and have to go to war, be drafted and be treated like a man on everything, speeding tickets, mistakes and other get out of jail freebies that females currently have.