Female Ejaculation: Pee Or No?

[ownedsubgal]

really, why would anyone NOT want it to be pee? at least pee is something normal and sane and whatnot. but the idea of a woman spewing out ejaculate like a dude?? um sorry, but that is beyond gross and disturbing.

 

[Cattypuss]

really, why would anyone NOT want it to be pee? at least pee is something normal and sane and whatnot. but the idea of a woman spewing out ejaculate like a dude?? um sorry, but that is beyond gross and disturbing.

Each to his own of course, but I TOTALLY disagree. I love ejaculating (feels very blissful) and my boyfriend gets hugely turned on by it. And no way is it pee - tastes totally different (and no, it doesn't taste like very dilute pee - it has a taste all of its own... he likes me to squirt in his mouth and then he kisses me and trickles it into my mouth - partly to keep me hydrated during a long session!).

Why is is not "normal and sane and whatnot" for a woman to ejaculate, if it happens naturally from stimulation as it does with me and many others?

 

[neci]

good lord. i'm no scientist, just a girl who squirts like a mother fucker. it's never looked like pee to me. i normally pee before and after sex. i've completely drained myself squirting, and gone to the restroom with no problem. i'm curious if the people here who are claiming it is urine have ever actually experienced it.


The Female Prostate Revisited: Perineal Ultrasound and Biochemical Studies of Female Ejaculate

ABSTRACT
Introduction.  Many speculations have been made on the possible existence of a “female prostate gland” and “female ejaculation.” Despite several reports on the subject, controversy still exists around the “female prostate” and whether such a gland might be the source of fluid emitted during orgasm (ejaculation).

Aim.  To investigate the ultrasonographic, biochemical, and endoscopic features in two women who reported actual ejaculations during orgasm.

Main Outcome Measures.  Perineal ultrasound studies, as well as biochemical characteristics of ejaculate and urethroscopy, have been performed in two women.

Methods.  Two premenopausal women—44 and 45 years of age—who actually reported fluid expulsion (ejaculation) during orgasm have been investigated. Ultrasound imaging, biochemical studies of the ejaculated fluid, and endoscopy of the urethra have been used to identify a prostate in the female. Ejaculated fluid parameters have been compared to voided urine samples.

Results.  On high-definition perineal ultrasound images, a structure was identified consistent with the gland tissue surrounding the entire length of the female urethra. On urethroscopy, one midline opening (duct) was seen just inside the external meatus in the six-o’clock position. Biochemically, the fluid emitted during orgasm showed all the parameters found in prostate plasma in contrast to the values measured in voided urine.

Conclusions.  Data of the two women presented further underline the concept of the female prostate both as an organ itself and as the source of female ejaculation. Wimpissinger F, Stifter K, Grin W, and Stackl W. The female prostate revisited: Perineal ultrasound and biochemical studies of female ejaculate. J Sex Med 2007;4:1388–1393.

 

[Stella_Omega]

really, why would anyone NOT want it to be pee? at least pee is something normal and sane and whatnot. but the idea of a woman spewing out ejaculate like a dude?? um sorry, but that is beyond gross and disturbing.

It's like hearing a trout express its opinion about automobiles.

 

[Firevixen]

Hmm....quite a mixed bunch of replies here. I wasn't going to contribute as I don't feel I have anything new to add. Then I thought "Aww fuck it" so here goes

I'm more of a gusher than a squirter. It doesn't happen every time I have sex. I WISH it did It's certainly not something I can control. It's very much a bonus for my partner at the time and myself when it does happen. I can't achieve it through intercourse. It's not pee I'm another one for emptying my bladder before and after sex (especially if I have intercourse). When it does happen there is loads of it. I mean LOADS. I've read where others have said there is no WAY you could sleep on *that* wet patch and I have to agree!

I can rarely achieve gushing by myself, however with enough clitoral stimulation from a toy I can.

 

[Cattypuss]

. i'm curious if the people here who are claiming it is urine have ever actually experienced it.

My thoughts precisely.

Rosco! You're doing it wrong!

 

[Nameless_Rose]

Definitely not pee. I read a book called "I Love Female Orgasm," (Good read btw) and it describes a study this doctor did about female ejaculate. She drank some kind of chemical that turns pee blue and then did an experiment. She peed on a white sheet and of course it turned blue. Then she ejaculated on a white sheet and the fluid was colorless. The sheet remained perfectly white. It's mostly just made up of water. Some ancient cultures used to collect female ejaculate in bowls and use it as a tonic to increase the sex drive. Just a fun fact.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Despite various anecdotal reports and references to dodgy science, all evidence points towards pee.

 

[neci]

Despite various anecdotal reports and references to dodgy science, all evidence points towards pee.

have you ever even been with a squirter?

 

[rosco rathbone]

have you ever even been with a squirter?

Let's not get bogged down in that nonsense. I've seen strange lights in the sky also and I'm not going to argue for or against alien visitations.

I base my case on evidence, logic and reason.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Let's not get bogged down in that nonsense. I've seen strange lights in the sky also and I'm not going to argue for or against alien visitations.

I base my case on evidence, logic and reason.

I think she peed on him and claimed it was come-- either from embarrassment or malice.

 

[Firevixen]

Let's not get bogged down in that nonsense. I've seen strange lights in the sky also and I'm not going to argue for or against alien visitations.

I base my case on evidence, logic and reason.

Ooooh, maybe the aliens paid us special visits and that's why only some of us can achieve squirting or gushing



rosco, I believe you're a bit of a wum

 

[SimonBrooke]

My thoughts precisely.

Rosco! You're doing it wrong!

You're surprised that Rosco's still a virgin? Why?

Would you shag him?

 

[Cattypuss]

You're surprised that Rosco's still a virgin? Why?

Would you shag him?

Simon, there's a lot of things I'd do for you. Shagging Rosco is not one of them.

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

Let's not get bogged down in that nonsense. I've seen strange lights in the sky also and I'm not going to argue for or against alien visitations.

I base my case on evidence, logic and reason.

Well, at least the "bogged down" part of your post is right, rosco.

 

[neci]

Let's not get bogged down in that nonsense. I've seen strange lights in the sky also and I'm not going to argue for or against alien visitations.

I base my case on evidence, logic and reason.

if you've never been with a squirter or stuck around long enough to find out, it's all good, but don't go around pretending like it's some sort of evidence, logic or reason you're following.

i've seen strange lights in the sky as well. right off Route 67. no visible aliens in sight.

 

[rosco rathbone]

My theory is that folks want there to be a indisputable outward sign of female orgasm. Something un-fakeable. The historical record shows nothing about this female ejaculate nonsense until recently.

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

That historical record was soaked with an ocean of clear ejaculate and the papers disintegrated.

 

[Stella_Omega]

My theory is that folks want there to be a indisputable outward sign of female orgasm. Something un-fakeable. The historical record shows nothing about this female ejaculate nonsense until recently.

In the 16th century, the English physician Laevinius Lemnius, referred to how a woman "draws forth the man's seed and casts her own with it".[13] In the 17th century, François Mauriceau described glands at the urethral meatus that "pour out great quantities of saline liquor during coition, which increases the heat and enjoyment of women".[14] This century saw an increasing understanding of female sexual anatomy and function,[15] in particular the work of the Bartholin family in Denmark.

In the 17th century the Japanese were achieving incredible expertise in woodcuts. They depicted women ejaculating in fountains, rivers, trickles, waves. They still do.

 

[neci]

Knowledge of the "Gräfenberg zone" and female ejaculation in ancient Indian sexual science. A medical history contribution

Syed R.
Sudhoffs Arch. 1999;83(2):171-90.
Institut für Indologie und Iranistik der Universität München.

Abstract
Ancient Indian texts in sexology (kamaśastra) from the 11th century onwards prove that their authors knew about the area later termed the "Gräfenberg zone" in Europe, as well as about the female ejaculation connected with the stimulation of this area. The Gräfenberg zone is a sexually arousable zone in the front part of the vagina, stimulation of which can lead to the discharge of liquid from the urethra, a phenomenon which is described as female ejaculation. The german gynaecologist Ernst Gräfenberg, who worked in America, described this zone, situated beneath the clitoris, for the first time (at least in this century) in Western medicine in an article published in 1950. (There are, however, evidences, that the 17th-century anatomist Regnier de Graaf had knowledge about the mentioned erogenous zone as well as female ejaculation.) Since the 1980s the so-called Gräfenberg zone, popularly termed "G-spot", and female ejaculation have been controversially discussed medically as well as in popular science, first in the United States, then in Europe; both phenomena have meanwhile been accepted as facts in medical manuals and reference books (e.g. the "Pschyrembel"). Whereas the oldest and most well-known sexological-erotological work of Ancient India, the Kamasutra, dating probably from the third century A.D., apparently did not know the Gräfenberg zone and female ejaculation, texts such as the Pañcasayaka (11th century), Jayamangala (Yaśodhara's commentary on the Kamasutra from the 13th century), the Ratirahasya (13th century), as well as the late kamaśastra-works Smaradipika and Anangaranga (16th century?) demonstrably describe both, the Gräfenberg zone and female ejaculation, in great detail. The female ejaculation is described already in the 7th century in a non-kamaśastra-text, in a work of the poet Amaru called the Amaruśataka.

PMID: 10705806 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

[SimonBrooke]

Simon, there's a lot of things I'd do for you.

I know

 

[SimonBrooke]

My theory is that folks want there to be a indisputable outward sign of female orgasm. Something un-fakeable. The historical record shows nothing about this female ejaculate nonsense until recently.

Note that he doesn't deny he's a virgin.

Who's surprised?

 

[KaeyMee]

It is definitely not pee. i squirt and i have also been with a woman that squirts. It does not look, nor taste like pee. The below link will also explain why some women squirt and some do not.

http://www.very-koi.net/tutor/female/female.htm

Well, learn something new everyday ......

I remember seeing a 'gusher' in an episode of the TV series 'Californication' (David Dochovny et al.) I just thought it was another one of those male fantasies.

If the above link is anything to go by - I haven't checked out any background validity - I now know what the sensation was that I experienced when I first started having intercourse. I had held back (horrified that I was going to wet myself) and to this day have been convinced I had ruined my chances of a more fulfilling orgasm. If that experience led me here today I'm not complaining though.

What would be interesting is, armed with that info could I now manipulate it myself (or with the appropriate help). Wouldn't hurt (though that would go against the grain!) and would be fun trying.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Note that he doesn't deny he's a virgin.

Who's surprised?

<<<Hey, you try getting laid with a face like this.

All kidding aside, I'm not surprised to see denialists claiming that I don't know what I'm doing, or that I must be a virgin and what have you. If female ejaculate is pee, and it most assuredly is, then I must be claiming that women don't an equal right to sexual pleasure. Or something.

There doesn't need to be a 1:1 correspondence between the female and the male. This chain of sketchy associations begins with women's enjoyment of their bodies & responses (a good thing) and winds up in silly claims of biological impossibilities.

 

[JMohegan]

If female ejaculate is pee, and it most assuredly is, then I must be claiming that women don't an equal right to sexual pleasure. Or something.

I think it's more like: If female ejaculate is pee, then the gushers are routinely pissing all over their beds. An act which, golden showers aside, is generally seen as disgusting.

Of course, it doesn't help that gushers respond with boasts about what they can "achieve" (thereby implicitly dissing the non-gushers), as well as criticism of those who haven't been with a gusher as "doing it wrong" (thereby explicitly dissing the partners of non-gushers).

In short, it's a debate in which the rhetoric itself virtually assures a vituperative response from someone or other.

For the record, I have no idea what the gushers are gushing, and don't give a fuck.