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Dont bring wine.....If they are really religious, they cant drink it....
Dont bring food.....
Bring nice flowers.....
No other protocol......
Enjoy Shabbos Dinner.....its special......
Dont bring food.....
Bring nice flowers.....
No other protocol......
Enjoy Shabbos Dinner.....its special......
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Hm. For shabbat? Dress modestly (no belly shirts or tank tops. If they are orthodox -long sleaves and skirt or slacks would probably be appreciated.) Ask questions if you are not sure what to do.
Oh yeah, don't be alarmed if they ask you to wear a name tag that says shiksa. That is just for a fun after dinner game..
Oh yeah, don't be alarmed if they ask you to wear a name tag that says shiksa. That is just for a fun after dinner game..
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Baron Herzog Resling (Late Harvest) 1998 or 1999. Cost is about 20 dolars a bottle and it is a very nice wine for the begining of the meal. Its a sweeter wine, but not overly so.
http://www.baronherzog.com/new_royalwines/baronherzog.html
Chenin Blanc is good too, but I like the White Riesling (Late Harvest)
You could bring a bottle of Single Malt Scotch, as that works great for a shot before the soup or after dinner. A better burbon like Bakers or Bookers works too, or if they are of eastern european decent, good vodka.
You are not jewish, so its not likely you will be expected to do any of the prayers. If you are asked to wash, ask them to say the blessing for you and then you say amen.
Between washing hands and starting to eat, don't talk. Its not polite, and they won't be able to answer you because they won't be talking because the washing hands is stage one, making the prayer of thanksgiving over the bread and eating it is stage two, and we don't interupt between satges with talking. Should only take a max of a few minutes.
Watch out for mackaroons. Those little nasty coconut things can be lethal if eaten. Usualy someone has a can of them around since last passover....8 years ago.
If you help clean up, watch were you put the dishes and things in the kitchen, and likewise if you help set up, watch out. Jewish families usualy have a set of meat dishes, silverware and cookware, and a seperate set for dairy. The host will tell you were things go, so don't mix them.
You don't have to take off your shoes unless you want to.
Don't bring food as a contribution. Unless you keep a kosher kitchen they won't eat it, and it will cause embarasement which is easily avoided.
If your host's wife doesn't shake hands with you, that because she is religious and religious women don't touch other men other than their husband, unless for good reason like they are a health professional, or to shove you out of the way for a sale at the mall...(kidding).
Easily avoidable, just don't offer to shake hands.
You may not want to get into a comparative religion debate at the table. Too many heated oppinions. Asking questions is fine though.
Oh, and compliment the chef.
http://www.baronherzog.com/new_royalwines/baronherzog.html
Chenin Blanc is good too, but I like the White Riesling (Late Harvest)
You could bring a bottle of Single Malt Scotch, as that works great for a shot before the soup or after dinner. A better burbon like Bakers or Bookers works too, or if they are of eastern european decent, good vodka.
You are not jewish, so its not likely you will be expected to do any of the prayers. If you are asked to wash, ask them to say the blessing for you and then you say amen.
Between washing hands and starting to eat, don't talk. Its not polite, and they won't be able to answer you because they won't be talking because the washing hands is stage one, making the prayer of thanksgiving over the bread and eating it is stage two, and we don't interupt between satges with talking. Should only take a max of a few minutes.
Watch out for mackaroons. Those little nasty coconut things can be lethal if eaten. Usualy someone has a can of them around since last passover....8 years ago.
If you help clean up, watch were you put the dishes and things in the kitchen, and likewise if you help set up, watch out. Jewish families usualy have a set of meat dishes, silverware and cookware, and a seperate set for dairy. The host will tell you were things go, so don't mix them.
You don't have to take off your shoes unless you want to.
Don't bring food as a contribution. Unless you keep a kosher kitchen they won't eat it, and it will cause embarasement which is easily avoided.
If your host's wife doesn't shake hands with you, that because she is religious and religious women don't touch other men other than their husband, unless for good reason like they are a health professional, or to shove you out of the way for a sale at the mall...(kidding).
Easily avoidable, just don't offer to shake hands.
You may not want to get into a comparative religion debate at the table. Too many heated oppinions. Asking questions is fine though.
Oh, and compliment the chef.
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But if they are really religious you cant bring wine, cause they wont dring even Kosher wine if its touched by a non jew.....
Dont sweat it
Drink it yourself!
Dont sweat it
Drink it yourself!
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If the wine is Mevushal then he can bring it.
Herzog is Mevushal.
Taken from http://www.koshersupermarket.com/wine/whatmakes.htm
"A simple definition of Kosher, is a food prepared in accordance with Jewish dietary laws. Since Kosher law does not prohibit the use of specific wine styles, grape varieties, or origin, any wine made in accordance to these laws can be Kosher. This explains the "surprisingly" large variety of Kosher wines available from New York, California, France, Israel and Italy.
Kosher law for preparing wine, entails the following points:
Equipment used to make the wine are used exclusively for the production of Kosher products.
The grapes and wine can be handled only by Sabbath observant Jews from grape crushing to consumption, unless the wine is Mevushal (pasteurized).
Only certified kosher products (yeast, filtering agents, etc.) can be used.
The origin of the laws regarding handling by non-Jews stems from the Torah, as a way of preventing intermarriage. Socializing with the wine of non-Jews may lead to this eventuality. Therefore, as a safety precaution, this prohibition was extended to wine touched by a non-Jew. Mevushal (pasteurization) stems from a different issue. Wine was once used for idolatrous worship. However, wines that were boiled were considered unfit for pagan worship. Mevushal, is a means of preventing wine produced for Jewish ceremonies to be used in pagan rituals. "
Technicaly, Even if I brought non-Mevushal wine, it would be nonkosher. I try, but I don't always succeed in keeping shabbos.
I think he is fine with bringing a bottle. Thats just my oppinion, I my be mistaken.
You could ask them, or you could just go with hard liquor that is not made from grapes, so no brandy either becuase its under the same rules.
Herzog is Mevushal.
Taken from http://www.koshersupermarket.com/wine/whatmakes.htm
"A simple definition of Kosher, is a food prepared in accordance with Jewish dietary laws. Since Kosher law does not prohibit the use of specific wine styles, grape varieties, or origin, any wine made in accordance to these laws can be Kosher. This explains the "surprisingly" large variety of Kosher wines available from New York, California, France, Israel and Italy.
Kosher law for preparing wine, entails the following points:
Equipment used to make the wine are used exclusively for the production of Kosher products.
The grapes and wine can be handled only by Sabbath observant Jews from grape crushing to consumption, unless the wine is Mevushal (pasteurized).
Only certified kosher products (yeast, filtering agents, etc.) can be used.
The origin of the laws regarding handling by non-Jews stems from the Torah, as a way of preventing intermarriage. Socializing with the wine of non-Jews may lead to this eventuality. Therefore, as a safety precaution, this prohibition was extended to wine touched by a non-Jew. Mevushal (pasteurization) stems from a different issue. Wine was once used for idolatrous worship. However, wines that were boiled were considered unfit for pagan worship. Mevushal, is a means of preventing wine produced for Jewish ceremonies to be used in pagan rituals. "
Technicaly, Even if I brought non-Mevushal wine, it would be nonkosher. I try, but I don't always succeed in keeping shabbos.
I think he is fine with bringing a bottle. Thats just my oppinion, I my be mistaken.
You could ask them, or you could just go with hard liquor that is not made from grapes, so no brandy either becuase its under the same rules.
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I had a Jewish boyfriend and was invited for Sedar (?) dinner, which was quite an honour, I'm told, being a Shiksa and all 
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I just watched what they did and they were very understanding and told me what I could and couldn't do/say.
Flowers are always good for the hostess.
Just beware of the Kasha and Bows....eccch!
Don't sweat it, they know you're not Jewish so they won't expect you to know their customs.
.I just watched what they did and they were very understanding and told me what I could and couldn't do/say.
Flowers are always good for the hostess.
Just beware of the Kasha and Bows....eccch!
Don't sweat it, they know you're not Jewish so they won't expect you to know their customs.
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*chuckles as I read the thread*....
I was engaged previously to an Episcopalian and I brought him and his Catholic best friend to Passover Seder when we were all in college together. Gramma invited them... Oy!
Seriously try this website:
http://www.jewfaq.org/toc.htm
I was engaged previously to an Episcopalian and I brought him and his Catholic best friend to Passover Seder when we were all in college together. Gramma invited them... Oy!
Seriously try this website:
http://www.jewfaq.org/toc.htm
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