Fallujah, a background look.

woody54

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We have all been shocked by atrocities such as Rwanda and the Balkans but the US now joins that lowly group of criminals where the US army is hard at work eliminating "insurgents" where ever they find them in Fallujah.

Having already established that the US military dont have the wherewithall to establish a fighter from a civilian, their orders are to eliminate the insurgents wherever they see them. Apparently they dropped leaflets warning Armagheddon was about to commence but having seen how displaced people are treated by the US/Israel cabal in Palestine, why would they go anywhere, they would be better dead.

"Insurgent" is a specific word that has been coersed into a more radical meaning in the US Administrations New Speak Dictionary.

Traditionally the word means this: (Mirriam Webster)

Main Entry: 1in·sur·gent
Pronunciation: -j&nt
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin insurgent-, insurgens, present participle of insurgere to rise up, from in- + surgere to rise -- more at SURGE
1 : a person who revolts against civil authority or an established government; especially : a rebel not recognized as a belligerent
2 : one who acts contrary to the policies and decisions of one's own political party


Notice the non belligerent tone and we can legitimately call women and children "insurgents".
But these are not the fighters who are labelled as "terrorists".

If the insurgents are non belligerent, why has the US decided to commit mass murder in Fallujah on the tens of thousands of such people stuck in the city by labelling them all insurgents. No army guy is going to think twice when a non hemeted head pops up... Bang!!.

Bush had a plan from his Zionist Administration to "settle" the Fallujah problem after their May humiliation, and no-one was under any illusions of what this warmongering lot meant, yet the Jesus followers swarmed to the ballot boxes and gave Bush the tick in full knowledge of this.(Dumbfucks?)

Why do the majority of American Evangelical Christians support the Fallujah action which is clearly not in line with Christian ethics? How do they sleep easy knowing their team is murdering foreigners in their own country for no good reason but colonial greed? Arent the sins involved clearly banned in the Ten Commandments? What is wrong with these hypocrites? Do they ameliorate the greater sins by waffling about Gays and abortion?


The answer lies enmeshed in the deceitful growth of world Zionism and the way it has aided and abeted a more radical, harsher form of Christianity that uses a form of 'justifiable' racism selectively against the Unchosen Ones, in this case, the Arabs and more specifically, the religious enemy of Judaism, the Muslims.

Judaism has sidled closer to Christianity over the last 50 years and Fundies think it is because they all follow the same Bible and that the return of Israel is central to Biblical prophesy.
The largest publisher of American Bibles, Nelsons, with their subtly updated translations, now display the "all seeing eye of Horus" (Illuminati Logo) with their label.

This all defies the logic of the basic differences on which each faith is built.
Christianity developed as an offshoot of Judaism through the teachings of Jesus , who to this day is regarded as a Heretic by Jews for his fresh view on love and humility. The only way for the two to come closer is for Christians to deny Jesus and effectively, this is what Evangelicals do to promote their twist on the faith, even though they pay lip service to traditional teachings.

George Bush claims to be a Christian, yet his values as measured by his performance, do not validate that faith. Is he really a Christian?, you must ask.
It is becoming clearer what drives Rumsfeld to say "We just cant have this sort of thing" referring to anti invader insurgency.
They follow a different doctrine.

It is notable that on March 20, 1991, President Bush I signed into law a sinister Congressional Joint Resolution that became Public Law 102-14. This states emphatically that all civilization from the beginning has been based upon a set of laws entitled "The Seven Noahide Laws" and you probably believed that the Holy Bible was the basis upon which civilization was based. WRONG, according to American Law now. Who said there was no religion in the Legislation?.

According to the Encyclopedia Americana, p. 737, these laws are "a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently, binding upon all mankind." These Laws originate from the Babylonian Talmut which is a man inspired collection of ideas based on the Torah(first 5 books of the Old Testament). It contains many anti Christian and occult/satanic references and was traditionally an oral record.

Judaism rules Jews through the Torah but the Noahide Laws are for 'Other mankind", the unchosen Gentiles. The rules are much harsher for non Jews, the lesser mortals.

The penalty for violating any of these Noahide Laws is spelled out on page 1192 of the Encyclopedia Judaica, "... violation of any one of the seven laws subjects the Noahide to capital punishment by decapitation".

The Pharisees succeeded in killing Jesus Christ on the basis that He blasphemed God, which is Noahide Law # 2.

What was the thinking behind including such abominable, medieval rules into the body of modern American Law? Why was it hidden within an Education Day Proclomation?

It defies logic unless one considers conspiratorial ends. That aside, it is an indictment on the personal values of the Presidential Team that invoked this legislation and is an indication of the duplicity rampant among Judaised Christians in Public Service.

It also makes more sense of The Patriot Act being passed in the dead of night without elected officials being allowed to read it first before voting it in.... who ever heard of such an outrageous breach of the democratic process, irrespective of the percieved threat. Even now, sections are top secret... why?

Given the above thinking, one can be excused for concluding that every Muslim killed is a blessing for Israel, who is the only real beneficiary from all this death.

Gentiles killing each other for Judaism... a Pharisses ultimate dream. The bearded morticians of Israel will be very pleased.

If the Good Book has any truth to it, on Judgement day there will be a lot of familiar faces waiting at the Liftdoor for DOWN.
 
woody54 said:
Why do the majority of American Evangelical Christians support the Fallujah action which is clearly not in line with Christian ethics? How do they sleep easy knowing their team is murdering foreigners in their own country for no good reason but colonial greed? Arent the sins involved clearly banned in the Ten Commandments? What is wrong with these hypocrites? Do they ameliorate the greater sins by waffling about Gays and abortion?

Actually I think it's because they're not playing with a full pack of cards. Their focus of attention, if that's what it can be called, is centred on one thing and one thing only. That 'thing' being whatever Bush and his gang say is the latest threat to American security...

They're all basically quite dumb.

ppman
 
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p_p_man said:
Actually I think it's because they're not playing with a full pack of cards. Their focus of attention, if that's what it can be called, is centred on one thing and one thing only. That 'thing' being whatever Bush and his gang say is the latest threat to American security...

They're all basically quite dumb.

ppman

If only it were that simple....
 
Interesting, especially about how Judaism is getting closer to Christianity, or really, how Christianity is getting closer to Judaism.

I couldn't believe the part about the noahide laws until I looked it up. However the "law" isn't much of a law. It only establishes "Education Day" and then pays service to Jews by saying that Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson is a bitchin' guy and that America should get back to the days of the Noahide laws since we're gettin' all sinful with all these gays and abortions. I wouldn't have passed the law, but it doesn't really matter much.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Pssh. I know I'll never see this amendment respected in my lifetime. But as long as they don't throw Atheists in internment camps, I won't protest.
 
Re: Re: Fallujah, a background look.

p_p_man said:
Actually I think it's because they're not playing with a full pack of cards. Their focus of attention, if that's what it can be called, is centred on one thing and one thing only. That 'thing' being whatever Bush and his gang say is the latest threat to American security...

They're all basically quite dumb.

ppman

The reason is this: Americans are so scared, confused, and lied to, they think this illegal war is justified.
 
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MechaBlade said:
The reason is this: Americans are so scared, confused, and lied to, they think this illegal war is justified.

Not all Americans of course as many who post on Lit can testify to but enough to make a difference.

ppman
 
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p_p_man said:
Not all Americans of course as many who post on Lit can testify to but enough to make a difference.

ppman
Exactly. In fact, I don't like to call them Americans. From now on, they're Dumbfuckistanians.
 
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MechaBlade said:
Interesting, especially about how Judaism is getting closer to Christianity, or really, how Christianity is getting closer to Judaism.

I couldn't believe the part about the noahide laws until I looked it up. However the "law" isn't much of a law. It only establishes "Education Day" and then pays service to Jews by saying that Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson is a bitchin' guy and that America should get back to the days of the Noahide laws since we're gettin' all sinful with all these gays and abortions. I wouldn't have passed the law, but it doesn't really matter much.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Pssh. I know I'll never see this amendment respected in my lifetime. But as long as they don't throw Atheists in internment camps, I won't protest.

Since Rabbinic Judaism has determined that Christianity is idolatry because of the Christian deification of Jesus, Christians are not allowed to become Noachides.

How can Christians see the Rebbe as a bitchin guy when he sees them as for the big chop?
 
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woody54 said:
How can Christians see the Rebbe as a bitchin guy when he sees them as for the big chop?
I have no fucking clue. Common enemies, I guess.
 
I still think we need a good old fashion revolution and take back our government and i'm sure a lot of soliders will stage a sit in or joinm

My niece is pissed she can not go out and get the job she wants due to bush and his damn war she now will be sent not to iraq but to honduras. She served her time and now they say she can't go.
 
GeorgeWBush said:
I still think we need a good old fashion revolution and take back our government and i'm sure a lot of soliders will stage a sit in or join

I was having a happy little day dream about that the other day...

:D

ppman
 
p_p_man said:
I was having a happy little day dream about that the other day...

:D

ppman

Here is a nice dream from an Eastern man

"But far more important is to resolve the dichotomy before all of us. Our society hates conventional criminals - the robbers, thieves, gangsters.
However, our society loves bigger criminals - those who commit crimes against humanity - the corrupt.While no father will marry his daugher to a robber's son, but in many states there is a rush to identify corrupt people and then the girl's father wants to
marry his daugher to that criminal's son who has committed crimes against humanity! If we are able to resolve this social dichotomy by not respecting but hating and excommunicating criminals in high positions through unity of NGOs, we can go far ahead in little time.
Y.P. Singh"

Is this not the course America was designed to follow??
 
The mis use of Power

The use of absolute power comes with a price because men are involved.
What will history see of Fallujah when the Crusaders from Dumbfuckistan have moved on to their next assignment?

Maybe these snapshots will give you a hint of the magnitude of the crimes in Fallujah.

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Grenada 1983 - Have all the lunatics gone yet? No, another one just flew over.


During the US invasion of Grenada faulty US Intelligence caused US planes to bomb a mental asylum mistaking it for a military fort. As usual the US planners were using faulty maps. The behaviour of the US pilots was seriously questioned after this disaster.


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Persian Gulf 1988 - Robocruiser: The Captain says it1s definitely an Iranian fighter. But there again the Captain has definitely got his binoculars round the wrong way.


USS Vincennes was the most up-to-date ship
afloat when in 1988 it shot down an Iranian airliner believing it to be an enemy fighter. Human error was at fault.


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Kosovo 1999 - I should leave it blank. Who knows where it 1s gonna fall?


The American claim to have smart weapons in the Yugoslavian conflict was constantly proved wrong.
In some cases the laser-guided bombs and missiles actually missed Serbia altogether and landed in Bulgaria.

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Kosovo 1999 -
The Chinese Embassy:
An embassy? So the fortune cookie lied....


The bombing of the Chinese embassy during the NATO operation in Kosovo is probably the most famous recent military blunder. It happened because
of an Intelligence failure by the CIA who thought the embassy building was a Serbian military installation. The CIA, it turned out, were using a very old map.


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"OK, it was one of ours. But did you see that sucker blow?"

During the Gulf War of 1991 friendly fire incidents caused many casualties. It was believed that human error was sometimes the result of a gung-ho mentality on the part of some pilots.


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The introduction of so-called 'smart weapons' into warfare has given people the false belief that wars can be conducted in a more precise way. The huge increase in military accidents and friendly fire since the Second World War has shown that this is not true.

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woody54 said:
. No army guy is going to think twice when a non hemeted head pops up... Bang!!.

Good thing they're Marines then.

"And when they see what they believe to be militants - and these marines are incredibly calm under fire, they are almost unflinching - they do wait until they see a guy with a gun but when they see that, they open up with everything they have got and the question is, how much collateral damage is there going to be?"



To have that coolness under fire as a lowly private,that's most likely scared shitless,is more than impressive.

They got my vote.

Link to the article in question
 
Oh so sorry,i seemed to have stumbled onto this thread of morons,please forgive my intrusion and do please carry on!
 
GRC said:
Oh so sorry,i seemed to have stumbled onto this thread of morons,please forgive my intrusion and do please carry on!


I think your medication is due :) (makes note to avoid sudden hand movements......)
 
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatites of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lutbavitch movement. is designated as "Education Day. U.S.A.". The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/noahide_laws.htm

Assuming that site reprinted the law correctly, I don't see that this is anything more than one of those silly memorial statutes. There's no mandate, and no penalties. Unless "appropriate ceremonies and activities" can be read to require decapitation for those categories of sins.
 
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Pagliacci said:
Good thing they're Marines then.

"And when they see what they believe to be militants - and these marines are incredibly calm under fire, they are almost unflinching - they do wait until they see a guy with a gun but when they see that, they open up with everything they have got and the question is, how much collateral damage is there going to be?"



To have that coolness under fire as a lowly private,that's most likely scared shitless,is more than impressive.

They got my vote.


This may be what they say in the Manual of Good Honourable Marine Stuff as a salve for the people who like to forget theur real purpose but it is not consistent with the glorious telepics from the embedded reporters in Fallujah showing the firestorm being blindly directed into occupied buildings.
 
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woody54 said:
This may be what they say in the Manual of Good Honourable Marine Stuff as a salve for the people who like to forget theur real purpose but it is not consistent with the glorious telepics from the embedded reporters in Fallujah showing the firestorm being blindly directed into occupied buildings.

Check the link.
It goes to the BBC and the article is by an embedded reporter.

Now he isn't praising them up and down but this comment,by a news organisation that I hold as objective,shows that they're trying.

What's good enough for me mightn't be good enough for you.
 
GRC said:
Oh so sorry,i seemed to have stumbled onto this thread of morons,please forgive my intrusion and do please carry on!

So speaketh one of the 92% of Americans that dont have a passport and also maybe one of the 65% percent of 18 - 25 adults who couldnt point to the UK, their major ally, on a map.

Give me a break with the moron stuff when most Americans think the world stops outside the borders.
 
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Pagliacci said:
Check the link.
It goes to the BBC and the article is by an embedded reporter.

Now he isn't praising them up and down but this comment,by a news organisation that I hold as objective,shows that they're trying.

What's good enough for me mightn't be good enough for you.

I draw my conclusions from the souces available from NZ which includes regular news programs, newspaper reports, Australian , BBC and US TV News and the internet.

Even the CNN coverage is geared to show the boys dishing out massive firepower because that feeds the egos of the Dumbfuckistanian supporters.
 
God, this is a thread of morons! What strange people. I am glad there are not many so off balance.
 
SBroadB9 said:
God, this is a thread of morons! What strange people. I am glad there are not many so off balance.


Isnt Georgia smack in the middle of Dumbfuckistan where the schools hardly teach anything about the outside world?

Where sectarian hatred is so endemic, it is easy to transfer that mindless force against the "evidoers" without knowing them.

Who is the moron here?
 
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