FACT CHECK thread

[butters]

to debunk those disinformation trends—or confirm truths mislabled as lies—wherever you lie on the political spectrum.
without knowledge of the truth, lies and crazy speculations breed like wildfire.


i'll start with something simple:

Claim: Biden put Medal of Honor on backwards during award ceremony

False.

The video shared on Twitter does not show president Biden putting on a medal backwards. The clip was taken from a White House ceremony in which four veterans of the Vietnam war were presented with the Medal of Honor, the highest award for military valor in action. The medal is attached by a blue ribbon which sits at the collar of the recipient. It is the only type of U.S. military decoration which is worn this way.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...pc=U531&cvid=72fc1c8b889b4287ae7a3b7c08399bda

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-place-medal-of-honor-backwards/

 

[butters]

Did the Secret Service ‘Officially Debunk’ Hutchinson’s Testimony?​

Claim​

As of the morning of June 29, 2022, evidence showed the U.S. Secret Service had officially debunked ex-White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony that she gave under oath before the U.S. House Jan. 6 panel.

Rating​

False
About this rating

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/secret-service-debunked-hutchinson/

 

[butters]

Claim​

An 11-year-old Montana girl named Patricia Harrington stopped a home invasion by shooting and killing two armed undocumented immigrants named Ralphel Resindez and Enrico Garza, and Fox News reported on the story.

Rating​

False
About this rating

Context
There’s no evidence that this ever happened. We found no record of Fox News having reported the story. It also didn’t show up in any newspaper archives or historical records of any kind.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/11-year-old-illegals/

 

[Rightguide]

You should realize that using Snopes as a reputable "fact-checker" is laughable to knowledgeable people.

 

[rockcasbah]

Is Butters a twat?

True.

 

[Rightguide]

"That did not happen": Secret Service doubling down in dispute over Hutchinson testimony​

ED MORRISSEY Jul 07, 2022 10:01 AM ET

“There’s a lot of what Ms. Hutchinson said that is true. Certainly [Trump] wanted to go to the Capitol, that much we know. He said that publicly, he reiterated that inside the car,” a source close to the Secret Service told The Hill on Tuesday.

But the agency has also pushed back on Hutchinson’s account that Trump had lunged for the SUV’s steering wheel, and then towards the neck of Secret Service agent Robert Engel, after being told he was going back to the Oval Office — and not to the Capitol — following his defiant speech on the Ellipse.

Both Ornato and Engel, who remain active Secret Service agents, have said they are willing to testify under oath to dispute Hutchinson’s narrative, even as they have refused to speak publicly about it. The unnamed driver, the agency has signaled, is also denying her account.

“Ornato is a red herring,” the source said, noting that he was in his office at the time and not at the rally.

“There are three people in that vehicle: Bobby Engel, President Trump and the limo driver,” the source said, and both agents are “saying that did not happen.”

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/202...-in-dispute-over-hutchinson-testimony-n481167

 

[ll74]

"That did not happen": Secret Service doubling down in dispute over Hutchinson testimony​

ED MORRISSEY Jul 07, 2022 10:01 AM ET

“There’s a lot of what Ms. Hutchinson said that is true. Certainly [Trump] wanted to go to the Capitol, that much we know. He said that publicly, he reiterated that inside the car,” a source close to the Secret Service told The Hill on Tuesday.

But the agency has also pushed back on Hutchinson’s account that Trump had lunged for the SUV’s steering wheel, and then towards the neck of Secret Service agent Robert Engel, after being told he was going back to the Oval Office — and not to the Capitol — following his defiant speech on the Ellipse.

Both Ornato and Engel, who remain active Secret Service agents, have said they are willing to testify under oath to dispute Hutchinson’s narrative, even as they have refused to speak publicly about it. The unnamed driver, the agency has signaled, is also denying her account.

“Ornato is a red herring,” the source said, noting that he was in his office at the time and not at the rally.

“There are three people in that vehicle: Bobby Engel, President Trump and the limo driver,” the source said, and both agents are “saying that did not happen.”

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/202...-in-dispute-over-hutchinson-testimony-n481167

They can testify under oath about it. For people who havent made a statement publicly, there sure seems to be plenty of stories about them saying things.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

"That did not happen": Secret Service doubling down in dispute over Hutchinson testimony​

ED MORRISSEY Jul 07, 2022 10:01 AM ET

“There’s a lot of what Ms. Hutchinson said that is true. Certainly [Trump] wanted to go to the Capitol, that much we know. He said that publicly, he reiterated that inside the car,” a source close to the Secret Service told The Hill on Tuesday.

But the agency has also pushed back on Hutchinson’s account that Trump had lunged for the SUV’s steering wheel, and then towards the neck of Secret Service agent Robert Engel, after being told he was going back to the Oval Office — and not to the Capitol — following his defiant speech on the Ellipse.

Both Ornato and Engel, who remain active Secret Service agents, have said they are willing to testify under oath to dispute Hutchinson’s narrative, even as they have refused to speak publicly about it. The unnamed driver, the agency has signaled, is also denying her account.

“Ornato is a red herring,” the source said, noting that he was in his office at the time and not at the rally.

“There are three people in that vehicle: Bobby Engel, President Trump and the limo driver,” the source said, and both agents are “saying that did not happen.”

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/202...-in-dispute-over-hutchinson-testimony-n481167

Remember dumbass, she is only repeating what she was told........you get the difference between a person actually being witness, and a person be told about an incident. Get them (Ornato, Engel and the driver) who were there in front of the committee and have them tell it "under oath"

 

[butters]

https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/39e0aa8e

the claim: The Guttmacher Institute admits that almost 99 percent of abortions are just birth control.

fact check: False

A 2015 report notes that 92 percent of abortions were "elective." This is not the same as birth control, which prevents pregnancies.

Researchers have noted that the reasons for abortions are often unclear. According to an article on MedicinePlus, "elective abortion" is a broad term. It simply refers to a voluntary termination for reasons other than a health condition. This is separate from birth control, which by definition prevents pregnancy from happening in the first instance.

 

[phrodeau]

"That did not happen": Secret Service doubling down in dispute over Hutchinson testimony​

ED MORRISSEY Jul 07, 2022 10:01 AM ET

“There’s a lot of what Ms. Hutchinson said that is true. Certainly [Trump] wanted to go to the Capitol, that much we know. He said that publicly, he reiterated that inside the car,” a source close to the Secret Service told The Hill on Tuesday.

But the agency has also pushed back on Hutchinson’s account that Trump had lunged for the SUV’s steering wheel, and then towards the neck of Secret Service agent Robert Engel, after being told he was going back to the Oval Office — and not to the Capitol — following his defiant speech on the Ellipse.

Both Ornato and Engel, who remain active Secret Service agents, have said they are willing to testify under oath to dispute Hutchinson’s narrative, even as they have refused to speak publicly about it. The unnamed driver, the agency has signaled, is also denying her account.

“Ornato is a red herring,” the source said, noting that he was in his office at the time and not at the rally.

“There are three people in that vehicle: Bobby Engel, President Trump and the limo driver,” the source said, and both agents are “saying that did not happen.”

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/202...-in-dispute-over-hutchinson-testimony-n481167

You should realize that using hotair.com as a reputable "fact-checker" is laughable to knowledgeable people.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You should realize that using hotair.com as a reputable "fact-checker" is laughable to knowledgeable people.

Knowledgeable and wrongway in the same sentence....surely you jest!

 

[rockcasbah]

Okay, 99% are belated birth control.

Even sluttier!

 

[stxjimmy]

Seems a fitting place to post.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ear-old-abortion-rightwing-media-indiana-ohio

 

[rockcasbah]

Seems a fitting place to post.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ear-old-abortion-rightwing-media-indiana-ohio

I feel bad for Snopes on this one.

 

[phrodeau]

I feel bad for Snopes on this one.

Why, is Jim Jordan going after them?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jim-jordan-abortion-tweet/

 

[domroger]

Why, is Jim Jordan going after them?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jim-jordan-abortion-tweet/

There are multiple screen shots of the deleted tweet on Twitter.
As one said "You can delete a tweet,but it still exists somewhere on the web".
Gym is finding that out.

 

[Rightguide]

This thread would expose lots of lies if Butters fact checked her own posts.

Sample:

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/do-you-own-your-body.1566411/page-38#post-95535931

Butters hosting a fact check thread is like Biden discussing being compos mentis

 

[phrodeau]

And the fact checkers are correct and dont have an agenda?

The agenda is to tell the truth. That’s not a bad thing.

 

[phrodeau]

Any new Butters investigations today?

Any new posts to delete today?

 

[butters]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tech...pc=U531&cvid=aa319c7ddd784963e9c9b6c604604357

social media post claiming to show a flying military drone is 3 letters correct: it is a fly. an actual fly.

 

[lovecraft68]

With fact checking like this, who needs Twitter.
Irony....filling a disinformation thread-which starts with whatever your politics-with biased disinformation.

 

[butters]

With fact checking like this, who needs Twitter.
Irony....filling a disinformation thread-which starts with whatever your politics-with biased disinformation.

prove it

 

[lovecraft68]

But...muh racismmmmm!

Looks like 'voters of color" talk about a racist term coined by racists, are making an exodus from the Democrat plantation. Imagine, not being happy with being kept poor and hopeless with rampant violence in Dem owned cities under another racist Dem president.

Note the source is CNN a borderline leftist propaganda machine who over the last few weeks has finally started reporting real news.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/17/politics/republicans-voters-color-women-midterm-elections/index.html

 

[iso36]

With fact checking like this, who needs Twitter.
Irony....filling a disinformation thread-which starts with whatever your politics-with biased disinformation.

She’s a nonstop lyin’ machine, that one.

 

[lovecraft68]

Another gem

Seems the DNC is funding GOP candidates that identify as Trumpers and are ousting GOP members who sided against Trump when it came to impeachment. In other words, they would rather gamble with "democracy' that these Trumpers won't win so they can keep fueling divide, rather than help a faction of the GOP who is a lot more likely to work with the democrats to be bi partisan and help the American people.

https://www.wnd.com/2022/07/playing-fire-cnn-rips-dems-meddling-gop-primaries-boost-pro-trumpers/