Facing the Void

[GreenEyedGirl]

Some days I ask my self what state I am in. How many paces am I away from myself. Some days I am closer than others. The days I am further away I feel this pressure around my heart, on my self. It is the pressure of realizing that we are truly alone. loneliness seems to be an integral part of the human psyche. And I want to know why. Why do we try so hard to fill that
void? Why is that void so completely unacceptable to us as an aspect of ourselves? Is this the basis for marriages? For couplings? To fill that space with other? Is it an attempt to remove loneliness from our personal universes? Would we be better people if we could just accept that fact that this is a
lonely planet on which we live? Would we be able to better appreciate the companionship of others if we could just accept ourselves as solitary creatures living together?
On the whole I am a happy person. but even in my relationships I am very aware of being separate. I think that the whole "united as one" idea is bull shit. If I need someone else to complete me, then what I really need is help. I can not be anything other than who I am, although that is often fluctuating. We are not constant, static creatures.

Why do we treat loneliness like a fire to be quenched? As something that could be eradicated if we only try hard enough? And why is it so damned overwhelming at times?

I feel the need to make a disclaimer, this is not a pity fest. I am not in a depression. I do not need to be cheered up with prose. This is really how I feel and I do want to hear what others think.

 

[*bratcat*]

 

[GreenEyedGirl]

Re: Re: Facing the Void

hmm...and all I was going to say is that I have that av...I posted a whole thread with all those pictures about a year ago and christophe downsized it for me.

When is your birthday?

LOL

I have the entire series of this artist, whom I have to admit I have no clue who it is!
My birthday is in December, I had Sagittarius up for awhile as my av, but some of the other pictures are just too beautiful to not use.

Do you know who the artist is?

 

[*bratcat*]

 

[GreenEyedGirl]

I have no idea! but i love the work.

I agree! They are breathtaking.

 

[MissTaken]

The Void:


Sometimes, the void is a sense of loneliness. Othertimes, for me, it is a sense of feeling the things I have lost, the things I want to accomplish and haven't, the things that I have or will miss.

It may be goals, friends, opportunities,

But yes, I do believe the void is where we sense our losses.

Loneliness does tend to creep up on us. It doesn't mean that we are halves of an unfinished whole. It only means that we are human beings. We are social, sharing creatures. We are driven to "partner", if only for the sake of having human touch, sensation and sharing.

So many things in life are good, but at times, they seem worthless without someone to share them with.

We all get lonely.
We all have the void.

It is about being human.

 

[Ishmael]

Some days I ask my self what state I am in. How many paces am I away from myself. Some days I am closer than others. The days I am further away I feel this pressure around my heart, on my self. It is the pressure of realizing that we are truly alone. loneliness seems to be an integral part of the human psyche. And I want to know why. Why do we try so hard to fill that
void? Why is that void so completely unacceptable to us as an aspect of ourselves? Is this the basis for marriages? For couplings? To fill that space with other? Is it an attempt to remove loneliness from our personal universes? Would we be better people if we could just accept that fact that this is a
lonely planet on which we live? Would we be able to better appreciate the companionship of others if we could just accept ourselves as solitary creatures living together?
On the whole I am a happy person. but even in my relationships I am very aware of being separate. I think that the hole "united as one" idea is bull shit. If I need someone else to complete me, then what I really need is help. I can not be anything other than who I am, although that is often fluctuating. We are not constant, static creatures.

Why do we treat loneliness like a fire to be quenched? As something that could be eradicated if we only try hard enough? And why is it so damned overwhelming at times?

I feel the need to make a disclaimer, this is not a pity fest. I am not in a depression. I do not need to be cheered up with prose. This is really how I feel and I do want to hear what others think.

As much as we are individuals, we are still social animals.

As far as 'completeness' goes, I have a different view. But accepting yours for the time being, it is the social interaction that we crave. A sense of 'belonging' if nothing else.

Waxing philosophic does not change the nature of the beast. If you spend all that much time thinking about it, you will return to the point from whence you started. All thoughts connected to all other thoughts, utill you arrive at the starting point once more. A circular progression, a maze that always returns you to the point you first put the pencil down.

To truly believe that you exist outside of all others, while requiring the others to remind you that you exist at all is a dichotomy of logic that will lead you to no good ends at all.

It should be obvious that I don't find this a productive thought process at all.

Ishmael

 

[GreenEyedGirl]

Ishmael, perhaps this is an unproductive thought process, but I do not agree that in thinking about emotions analytically, one wanders in a circle to only come back to the original thought. And I do believe that we are social creatures, but that the juxtaposition to this is that we are alone. We are one. Only someone with multiple personality disorders can claim to be plural.

"To truly believe that you exist outside of all others, while requiring the others to remind you that you exist at all is a dichotomy of logic that will lead you to no good ends at all. "

I have no need to have others remind me that I exist. Waking up every morning does that for me already. And I feel that we do exist outside of others. We live in communities, cultures, societies as a part of different collective groups. So we are not islands, and hermitude is not what I am discussing here.
What I am saying is that loneliness is a basic component of the human existance.

MissT said it beautifully, that it is all part of being human. We have relationships, we have connections, we have contact. But lonliness is still there.
That is what I am asking about.

 

[Ishmael]

Ishmael, perhaps this is an unproductive thought process, but I do not agree that in thinking about emotions analytically, one wanders in a circle to only come back to the original thought. And I do believe that we are social creatures, but that the juxtaposition to this is that we are alone. We are one. Only someone with multiple personality disorders can claim to be plural.

"To truly believe that you exist outside of all others, while requiring the others to remind you that you exist at all is a dichotomy of logic that will lead you to no good ends at all. "

I have no need to have others remind me that I exist. Waking up every morning does that for me already. And I feel that we do exist outside of others. We live in communities, cultures, societies as a part of different collective groups. So we are not islands, and hermitude is not what I am discussing here.
What I am saying is that loneliness is a basic component of the human existance.

MissT said it beautifully, that it is all part of being human. We have relationships, we have connections, we have contact. But lonliness is still there.
That is what I am asking about.

Yes it is, and missT did say it beautifully. But I can almost garuantee that she feels that there is a completeness to be sought. It can be read in her post.

It is the search for completeness that keeps us moving forward, not in circles. And even in that completeness we are still individuals, and still somewhat alone. But it is possible to be alone and content. To know that we can reach out and join with another. It becomes a choice instead of a burden.

Ishmael