EROTIQUE photography

[Raine D8]

I have seen many photos in this forum, but mainly travel and landscape pics, which are all nice, yet ... so ... I wanted to open an art-erotique venue. The one I am attaching is one of many in a series, but this couple just blew me away. I suppose it's the difference between amateur and professional models, but they really pulled off passion and sensuality, although as an Art Director I gave them something to think about.

Sometimes photography can be technically perfect, but it does not make an amazing photo. There are many elements in a shoot (creatives or pro-) that come into play and many people involved, even in an erotic creative (which we should stick to).

As photographers (and perhaps this spills to fine artists to some extent - I am not sure) is it the technique that makes a image, the art direction, make-up artists, stylists or the models? What are the elements of an erotic photo? And who is the 'artist behind it?'

This sample is the uncropped version in medium format, and scanned from contact sheet, so if quality is diminished, sorry, but it does stand on it's own in many ways. (hopefully it attaches).

 

[BlackSnake]

Many of the people here may find it difficult to get professional models to work with.

 

[Halo_n_horns]

I have seen many photos in this forum, but mainly travel and landscape pics, which are all nice, yet ... so ... I wanted to open an art-erotique venue. The one I am attaching is one of many in a series, but this couple just blew me away. I suppose it's the difference between amateur and professional models, but they really pulled off passion and sensuality, although as an Art Director I gave them something to think about.

Sometimes photography can be technically perfect, but it does not make an amazing photo. There are many elements in a shoot (creatives or pro-) that come into play and many people involved, even in an erotic creative (which we should stick to).

As photographers (and perhaps this spills to fine artists to some extent - I am not sure) is it the technique that makes a image, the art direction, make-up artists, stylists or the models? What are the elements of an erotic photo? And who is the 'artist behind it?'

This sample is the uncropped version in medium format, and scanned from contact sheet, so if quality is diminished, sorry, but it does stand on it's own in many ways. (hopefully it attaches).

In the end, with any piece of work, I would imagine that its the final content and how the viewer perceives it. I don't see the photo you posted as erotic, but I do see it as passionate.

I am just one viewer, though.

Starting this thread is a cool idea. Hopefully it won't just become an amateur pic post. Lit already has one of those.

As BlackSnake added; getting models seems a far from simple task for a number of us. As much as I'd like to move into the realm of erotic photography, I don't see it happening too soon.

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

as much as I hate to disagree with HnH, I see more of the eroticism than the passion. Granted my mind works in this weird balancing act between stories and pictures but still.

She is behind him, turning and lifting his head back to her. Her leg is all that covers his most intimate of anatomy, while she herslef is clothed (look at her butt) and what immodesty she may be in is hidden behind the man. Most passionate embraces are the opposites of this arrangment with the man as the more hidden or aggressor and perhaps with the couple equally open but facing each other.

What fascinates me about this piece (and yes Raine I do find it fascinating) is the concepts of masculine and feminie lines. The man you have is standing straight, tall, angular, very masculine. the woman is curved and even wrapped around him to an extenet, very feminine (or so says my old art course texts), and you blended the two ideas into a pose that shows both as together yet seperate, as if there is a melting point and they are balanced precariously on the edge of shifting one way or the other but both holding each other from tipping.

Great piece, and nice start for a thread.

 

[Halo_n_horns]

See. Different people see different things. Groovy, huh?!

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

See. Different people see different things. Groovy, huh?!

Quite, though I still think the piece you did that is now your av is one of the hottest pieces of ink I've ever seen, hence my hesitancy to disagree with you.

Any man who can do that knows his erotic art!

 

[SummerMorning]

Echoing those above - we write stuff. We're only photographers second. And it's hard to find models who'll model for free!

 

[Halo_n_horns]

Quite, though I still think the piece you did that is now your av is one of the hottest pieces of ink I've ever seen, hence my hesitancy to disagree with you.

Any man who can do that knows his erotic art!

Don't hesitate to agree or disagree with me. Everyone has different standards and practices, if you will. There's things that I've never agreed with that have caused a stir or two, not that your comment did, and I've had my feathers ruffled once or twice as well. Everyone is an individual. It just goes with the territory.

 

[BlackSnake]

Echoing those above - we write stuff. We're only photographers second. And it's hard to find models who'll model for free!

It's like "Beauty and the Geek", huh?

My reach is not as far as it use to be. My last shoot was piss poor

 

[Raine D8]

as much as I hate to disagree with HnH, I see more of the eroticism than the passion. Granted my mind works in this weird balancing act between stories and pictures but still.

She is behind him, turning and lifting his head back to her. Her leg is all that covers his most intimate of anatomy, while she herslef is clothed (look at her butt) and what immodesty she may be in is hidden behind the man. Most passionate embraces are the opposites of this arrangment with the man as the more hidden or aggressor and perhaps with the couple equally open but facing each other.

What fascinates me about this piece (and yes Raine I do find it fascinating) is the concepts of masculine and feminie lines. The man you have is standing straight, tall, angular, very masculine. the woman is curved and even wrapped around him to an extenet, very feminine (or so says my old art course texts), and you blended the two ideas into a pose that shows both as together yet seperate, as if there is a melting point and they are balanced precariously on the edge of shifting one way or the other but both holding each other from tipping.

Great piece, and nice start for a thread.

Funny enough, this was the middle photo of a series of three that tell a gender story and for you to get the concept that I had in this 'one' view is an incredible high for me as an artist, Salvor. Thank you. While there is passion, I do consider the photo erotic since it does tell a story, symbollically at least.

 

[Raine D8]

Echoing those above - we write stuff. We're only photographers second. And it's hard to find models who'll model for free!

Not as hard as you think, believe me, I have never paid a model, stylist or make-up artist for an art/creative shoot.

 

[Raine D8]

Thank you all for posting. Anyone have something else erotic, passionate or otherwise they'd like to share?

What about nudes? Are they erotic simply because they contain nudity?

 

[Raine D8]

In the end, with any piece of work, I would imagine that its the final content and how the viewer perceives it. I don't see the photo you posted as erotic, but I do see it as passionate.

I am just one viewer, though.

Starting this thread is a cool idea. Hopefully it won't just become an amateur pic post. Lit already has one of those.

As BlackSnake added; getting models seems a far from simple task for a number of us. As much as I'd like to move into the realm of erotic photography, I don't see it happening too soon.

Hopefully it won't, and I have no problem telling someone their photos are a promo for getting laid more than they are an attempt to do erotic photography. As with writers, everyone has a beginning and needs encouragement, yet honesty.

What is holding you back from the realm of erotic photography HnH (If you don't mind the query?) Certainly not models?

 

[Halo_n_horns]

Hopefully it won't, and I have no problem telling someone their photos are a promo for getting laid more than they are an attempt to do erotic photography. As with writers, everyone has a beginning and needs encouragement, yet honesty.

What is holding you back from the realm of erotic photography HnH (If you don't mind the query?) Certainly not models?

I have access to props, locations, make up artists, time and equipment, but alas, no models. I can't even get them for my artwork let alone photography. Fortunately I have enough imagination and skill to do without them for my artwork, for the most part.

 

[Raine D8]

Fortunately I have enough imagination and skill to do without them for my artwork, for the most part.

Unfortunately, I don't get a lot of time to read all but two or three threads in one sitting, but I would LOVE to see some of your erotic imagination if you'll do me/us the honor?

As for models, I will compile a list of sites where you can find them, and then post them here later this week. Albeit, they will be North American sites.

(PS. Thanks Doll Parts. You have any or willing to model? )

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

Unfortunately the 3 I would LOVE to post here have disappeared into wherever moving boxes go when they fall off of trucks.

I'd give a kidney to recreate them!

And I personally do not think nudity is erotic in and of itself. Michelangelo's David is far from erotic and is a great piece of sculpture. I think that eroticism comes more from the idea beign conveyed than the content. I've done pieces where the model was completely clothed but her look, the setting and the image were so smoldering with desire it was wickedly erotic but not at all indecent.

OK, I may have to carve out time this week and take pictures on a lunch hour or something.

 

[Halo_n_horns]

Unfortunately, I don't get a lot of time to read all but two or three threads in one sitting, but I would LOVE to see some of your erotic imagination if you'll do me/us the honor?

Go to the Artists of Erotica thread in my sigline. I've got works throughout the thread, which is also interwoven with a number of other very talented artists.

 

[Raine D8]

Unfortunately the 3 I would LOVE to post here have disappeared into wherever moving boxes go when they fall off of trucks.

I'd give a kidney to recreate them!

And I personally do not think nudity is erotic in and of itself. Michelangelo's David is far from erotic and is a great piece of sculpture. I think that eroticism comes more from the idea beign conveyed than the content. I've done pieces where the model was completely clothed but her look, the setting and the image were so smoldering with desire it was wickedly erotic but not at all indecent.

OK, I may have to carve out time this week and take pictures on a lunch hour or something.

Lunch Break Erotica. Now THERE is a creative idea, Salvor! I think I also better put on my art history hat with you. I will find it - somewhere around here.

I think nakedness is not erotic. Nudity on the otherhand? Perhaps it's the semantics. If memory serves, and it doesn't often, John Berger described a difference between nudity and nakedness in a book called 'Ways of Seeing'. I wonder how people view the difference between nudity and nakedness from their own eyes and in their art?

I suppose I find nudity more erotic. To me there is always that tease in nude photo or paintings/ sculptures that seem absent in nakedness. Even the word itself bends more toward eroticism. I guess it's a subtle difference like in writing, yet evident, between the erotic and porn?

What do you all feel?

(As an aside, apologies HnH, as I read your initial (the one before) post incorrectly. I neglected to comment on your imagination! ) I will look at the link you have provided, yet it would be cool for you to post a pic here.

Part of my purpose in starting this thread is to discuss our erotic works, mainly for feedback that we might not get otherwise, good or not so good, and always respectful. The fact is that we are all ... always learning ... and it's incredible to see through other eyes.

 

[tolyk]

I'm not sure I could define the difference between nudity and nakedness myself, but I'm pretty sure we've had this conversation somewhere in the AH before. I'm not sure if it had a thread of it's own, or if it was just discussed in a larger thread.

However, I definitely concur there that IS a difference. I think it has more to do with attitude than anything. I mean, if you are completely comfortable with being naked and are just going about everything perfectly normal, it's not quite the same as that feeling of being exposed, even if they want to be doing it they still feel exposed, it makes a person act differently. Well, that's my best attempt at the moment.

Nice thread Raine

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

Just to remind myself of the ideas and to furhter explore nude vs naked.

#1 Was a picture of a friend, who was an incredible dancer. Lean lithe body, gorgeous eyes and a smile that could melt steel. I had her in just a tuxedo jacket (high cut with tails) open and wearing fishnet tights and heels. She was seated on a chair backwards, legs open, leaning forward.

The position of the chair covered her breasts from being visible, thought the cleavage was there. The bar that held it up obscured her pussy from view. It was an erotic photo in that it was sexy, arousing and sensual. Yet nothing "pink" was visible.

#2 was a self portrait of sorts. I was laying down in front of a plate glass window that faced out over a forest. I was up on a frame and had gotten to the "half way up" point of arousal. With the light from the window being the main lighting my cock was nothing more than a black thick line in contrast to the greens and greys of the trees. The fianl shot was cropped so that the very tip was off the page as were the bottoms of the balls. It was fun to watch people lookat it and try to figure out what it was amongst the trees. More nude but less sexy.

#3 was a study in lines I wanted to try. Male and female models, the woman dressed in a suit, kind of loose but sharply pressed to give her more straight lines. the man was topless but had on loose baggy pants to give him more curves. I had her sitting up straight, arms at her side, her hand on his head. He was curled around her leg, sitting on the floor.

That one was unsettling. Nothign obviously wrong with it, and even nicely laid out but it jarred, the juxtaposition of feminie with masculine lines and a masculine with feminine lines was too much. Was shooting for sexy but never quite got it, but it was still a favorite in that it haunted me the way I felt looking at it.

 

[Raine D8]

it haunted me the way I felt looking at it.

Fascinated by all your descriptions, but dominantly with the last. Isn't that (in part) why Mona Lisa is so famous? I often think that there is so much erotic photography from porn to advertising and high art these days that one can't possibly set themselves apart unless through something like you describe as 'haunting'. As I have said from the start ... I would love other's to share their erotic art and I am most particularly intrigued by photo number three.

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

Fascinated by all your descriptions, but dominantly with the last. Isn't that (in part) why Mona Lisa is so famous? I often think that there is so much erotic photography from porn to advertising and high art these days that one can't possibly set themselves apart unless through something like you describe as 'haunting'. As I have said from the start ... I would love other's to share their erotic art and I am most particularly intrigued by photo number three.

Its all about the impression and how long it can hold the viewer I think. I see so much trying to be erotic and failing and some not trying and succeeding all too well. Living in Atlanta, there is little pockets of eroticism that are so easy to tap into on a day to day basis.

I'll try to put some sketches up next week ( I try to sketch an idea and makes it easier to work with models, some not that fluent with english) and if I can get models to recreate #3 I'll send you a copy

 

[BlackSnake]

Its all about the impression and how long it can hold the viewer I think. I see so much trying to be erotic and failing and some not trying and succeeding all too well. Living in Atlanta, there is little pockets of eroticism that are so easy to tap into on a day to day basis.

I'll try to put some sketches up next week ( I try to sketch an idea and makes it easier to work with models, some not that fluent with english) and if I can get models to recreate #3 I'll send you a copy

cool, I'll love to see it

 

[RudeNastyAssBitch]

Echoing those above - we write stuff. We're only photographers second. And it's hard to find models who'll model for free!

If You Have An Idea, A Few Bizzare Photos Of Yerself...Or A Best Friend, Then It's Very Easy To Make Some Real Fun Shit

I Do Not Write, It's Not My Bag. I'd Love To Though

 

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