Erotica Humiliation

[NoJo]

I voted for option one (BTDT!).

I think you've read my story "Public Humiliation" haven't you?

Going by the responses here, I must be one of the rare types, who does get off on being humiliated (but only mildly in public - different matter in private).

Lou

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That's because you're a stupid slut.

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[Guest]

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That's because you're a stupid slut.

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*mwah!*

 

[BlackShanglan]

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That's because you're a stupid slut.

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I bet he says that to all the girls.

 

[Guest]

I bet he says that to all the girls.

No, don't say that! I thought I was special. *sniff*

 

[BlackShanglan]

No, don't say that! I thought I was special. *sniff*

No, you're just a common, dirty little slut.



Shanglan

 

[Guest]

No, you're just a common, dirty little slut.



Shanglan

Oh my! What are you lot trying to do to me?



(I haven't felt this good in about a week.)

 

[dr_mabeuse]

dr mab said,

Originally Posted by dr_mabeuse
I guess the litmus test for me is whether the person being humiliated is getting off on it. If they are, then that implies a certain level of consent and the kind of power-play you see in BDSM: the "treat me like a slut" kind of stuff.

If the humiliatee is not getting off on it, then it's a form of rape or degradation, and I don't care for that in my porn. I think it's essentially sadistic, and I'm just not into sadism.

Along the lines of Sub Joe, there are (possibly) two humilatees; the person in the story and the reader. The aim of porn and much erotica is to get the reader off, or excited in some way. So yes, the *reader* must enjoy it. Just as a horror movie. But the character might NOT enjoy it, and that might even be a precondition for the reader's enjoyment. (In a horror story or movie the CHARACTER is 'actually' [in the story] terrified, not 'scared-but-having-a-grand-old-exciting-time-of-it.')

Our hypothetical humilatee-character, Jill, can, in the story (writers and readers imagination) have a helluva bad time of it, feel mostly shame or whatever. As Sub Joe says, the 'protection' is that there is no Jill being given a helluva nasty time. Jack or Jane, the readers, though, may indeed feel the ('getting off') pleasure mabeuse speaks of.

The same applies to the nonconsent story; the Literotica fantasy 'classic' of course has 'victim' pleasure (after brief resistance) and also presumably reader pleasure. BUT, the harsher ('true') non consent stories--of which there are a few-- show fear, pain etc. IN THE CHARACTER. But presumably this does it for some readers. ((And it should almost go without saying that the readers pleasure in a given type of scene--be it humiliation or grim death-- is no index of his/her likelihood of *actually* bringing about the scene. The millions who enjoy Macbeth or Othello are 95%--just as in the general population--NOT dangerous folks.))

That's probably why I stopped watching horror movies. I just decided I didn't enjoy seeing people terrified. I decided I could live without it.

This is my own taste, of course, but if a character in a porn story is in real fear or suffering, it just ruins it for me. Apprehension or tension is fine, but when you get into fear and degradation with no arousal, I just find it anti-erotic.

---dr.M.

 

[sweetnpetite]

As most of you know my stories tend to center around humiliating women. For those of you who find this erotic, which is more erotic. And for you women, which is more degrading.

Please note that the one option I'm not listing is a woman being physically forced to have sex. I don't know about anyone else, but I just can't see anything remotely erotic about forcible rape.

I much prefer stories about women being forced through their own mistakes to consent to do degrading things.

Anyway, curious what your choices would be and why.

I would go with the second third and forth option, and many more I'm certain.

Thanks for posting this pole here, now I know why they love me here, but don't tend to read my stories. I can barely write a story without humiliation.

One that's not on the list, but has been on my mind lately is being forced to watch her man with another woman. Add an audience and the humiliation is compounded. (see Camilla's Cuckold

But of course, she has to *enjoy* being humiliated. That's were the fun lies.

Did you mention name calling/forcing her to call herself names Oh- and having to choose between humiliating options. (such as she'll have to take off an article of clothing if she doesn't admit to being a filthy slut, or she'll be whipped harder if she doesn't beg to be spanked- or stimulation would be stopped if she doesn't admit to enjoying her mistreetment or if she stopps thinking up dirty things for her master to do to her, ect.) Oh yeah, I've got a fertile imagination. (don't PM me though, I'm taken )

So- just me and Tate huh?

 

[Guest]

This is my own taste, of course, but if a character in a porn story is in real fear or suffering, it just ruins it for me. Apprehension or tension is fine, but when you get into fear and degradation with no arousal, I just find it anti-erotic.

---dr.M.

Ditto.

That's the thing, it has to be arousing for the person being humilated, not just a way for the one "inflicting" it to get off.

That's probably why I prefer to read such stories from the POV of the humiliatee. I can then see (and empathise!) that they are getting off on it.

 

[MLyons]

Going by the responses here, I must be one of the rare types, who does get off on being humiliated (but only mildly in public - different matter in private).

Lou

I'm in the minority too.

I enjoy reading, and writing humiliation of wildly varied extremes in both directions. I agree with Sub Joe. Fantasy and reality are two separate things, and I just don't understand why some people are so offended by this topic.

Then again, I don't feel the need to justify my likes and dislikes in a fantasy context to a bunch of people who find it easy to judge--that is until their OWN particular kink is attacked. I realize not everyone is doing that, but it really pisses me off when it happens.

 

[BlackShanglan]

I enjoy reading, and writing humiliation of wildly varied extremes in both directions.

And you do it damned well

Shanglan

 

[MLyons]

And you do it damned well

Shanglan

::blush::

::curtsy::

 

[LadyJeanne]

And the minority can add me to the list as well. I enjoy it as fantasy; not sure what my reaction would be in RL if anyone ever tried it even its mildest forms. Perhaps that's why I've written about it - to explore it further in my head than I would in RL.

I've only written one story about humiliation - the lady in question requests it and gets off on it, although she's increasingly humiliated and degraded as the story goes on.

It's generally not a topic one discusses in polite company, but if my email responses to Humiliation Games is an indication, there seems to be a huge desire for stories like that out there. Some of the feedback has actually brought me close to tears - people are utterly grateful when they find a story that addresses their fantasies. And some are quite matter-of-fact about it - it's all good fun to read about.

 

[MLyons]

::shivering with ecstacy::

Ahhh... Humiliation Games What a loverly little story.

P.S. LJ and BS, I owe you both PMs. I haven't forgotten.

 

[LadyJeanne]

::shivering with ecstacy::

Ahhh... Humiliation Games What a loverly little story.

P.S. LJ and BS, I owe you both PMs. I haven't forgotten.

Thank you, sweets.



No need to apologize...I'm the queen of procrastination myself.

 

[BlackShanglan]

Reading Humiliation Games is (at least for horses of certain proclivities) like having one's libido explode. Deliciously.

Shanglan

 

[LadyJeanne]

Reading Humiliation Games is (at least for horses of certain proclivities) like having one's libido explode. Deliciously.

Shanglan

Awright, now I'm blushing with a secret little thrill - don't tell anyone.

Thank you. Good horsey.

*pet pet pet*

(Um, is that exploding libido thing messy?)

 

[david73]

I really feel that some of the respondents are taking the subject matter a little too seriously. Its fantasy after all. There was no indication the OP was encouraging anyone to rush out and actually do this.

Like any other sexual subject, some will find it erotic some won't. Some people get turned off by anal, we don't need to have a long discussion on the moral value of that do we?

The whole chauvenist thing doesn't stand up either as its a sexual fetish. A straight guy is probably not going to get very excited about humiliating a man so don't expect him to be writing sex stories about it.

Now me, I'm male and I write stories where men are humiliated. Feel free to judge that any way you like. But if you think I want everything that happens in my stories to happen to me or to anyone else.... you're an idiot.

 

[Couture]

You're all a bunch of sick bastards. I am appalled about writing a story around a humiliation theme. You should all be ashamed and humiliated.





Just fucking with you. I tend to like stories where the victim, be it male or female, has to perform for the others sexual satisfaction, while not getting relief for their own reluctant arousal.

 

[LadyJeanne]

You're all a bunch of sick bastards. I am appalled about writing a story around a humiliation theme. You should all be ashamed and humiliated.

Ooo, my libido just exploded. Deliciously.

 

[Xelebes]

Always depends on context, rather than the form of humiliation I would think.

But I always get offended when I see polls asking about one sex only. What about humiliating blokes?

I personally treat the poll as if it was androgynous. Just take two letters out of a word and voila!

I voted for the first one but imagined it with out those two letters.

 

[BlackShanglan]

(Um, is that exploding libido thing messy?)

Only if you do it right.

 

[sweetnpetite]

I must *really* be in the minority bc a bit of humilation is ok in r/l under the right circomstances. Some of you here are awful prudish for a bunch of smut writers

 

[wishfulthinking]

Eek. This is humiliating just reading this thread.

Humiliation or degradation doesn't much appeal to me, but each to their own. How many of you like non-consent, when 70% of my stories are probably in that category? When a fellow author asks for tips or help, rather than knocking them down [dare I say judge?], give em a hand, rather than possibly making a person feel low for daring to ask.

Before I finish my lecture, I'm going to get my whip out, so get in line those of you that have been naughty

*whip*

*whip*

 

[mcfbridge]

If you've read my stories, than you know that I would probably fail that litmus test. While some of my characters do end up enjoying what happened in the end, many don't. I focus more on woman who are being humiliated more because of their own flaws, than because of the person doing it.

They endure it because they are overly concerned with their social station, religious affiliation, etc. In other words, they go themselves into it, and to a certain level, deserve what's happening.

So, yes I do find stories of women being degraded, (if that's the word you want I won't argue) exiting. But the key word in that sentence is STORIES, not degraded. I enjoy fictional stories of women being degraded. I have absolutely no desire to see or hear of such a thing in real life. For more discussion on that, see my later thread.

I guess the litmus test for me is whether the person being humiliated is getting off on it. If they are, then that implies a certain level of consent and the kind of power-play you see in BDSM: the "treat me like a slut" kind of stuff.

If the humiliatee is not getting off on it, then it's a form of rape or degradation, and I don't care for that in my porn. I think it's essentially sadistic, and I'm just not into sadism.

---dr.M.