Endless Ends

[Endless_Night]

So. Yesterday was lazy movie day.

My pick (for my sins) was I was a Teenage Wereskunk. It's billed as, “A comedy homage to the drive-in monster movies of the 50s”.

Things started out so well….

- There were great parts. The period slang. The initial scene. Future referencing. Oral sex. The girl who never took off her roller skates.

- Some good parts. Some of the social references: The Beats, Manson and Squeaky.

- Totally confusing parts: Insanely annoying (supposedly comedic) deputy who never shut up. (And whose character made no sense within the context of the movie. )

That last part nearly crashed the whole experience. Still worth a watch, though after I required a palette cleanser.


Chinatown. It’s been a couple of decades since I viewed. The politics behind the California Water Wars made so much more sense this time around. Interesting.

 

[hotwords229_A]

So. Yesterday was lazy movie day.

My pick (for my sins) was I was a Teenage Wereskunk. It's billed as, “A comedy homage to the drive-in monster movies of the 50s”.

Things started out so well….

- There were great parts. The period slang. The initial scene. Future referencing. Oral sex. The girl who never took off her roller skates.

- Some good parts. Some of the social references: The Beats, Manson and Squeaky.

- Totally confusing parts: Insanely annoying (supposedly comedic) deputy who never shut up. (And whose character made no sense within the context of the movie. )

That last part nearly crashed the whole experience. Still worth a watch, though after I required a palette cleanser.


Chinatown. It’s been a couple of decades since I viewed. The politics behind the California Water Wars made so much more sense this time around. Interesting.

Those two movies are very different!

 

[tnman03]

One thing to also bear in mind with the Generation Jones grouping is they were the first who didn't have to worry about being drafted and sent to VietNam. And yes, they also had to deal with the post-VietNam recission. Lots of societal problems going on.

 

[AbsintheFather]

One thing to also bear in mind with the Generation Jones grouping is they were the first who didn't have to worry about being drafted and sent to VietNam. And yes, they also had to deal with the post-VietNam recission. Lots of societal problems going on.

I'd never heard that term before, but I Wiki'd it and it's me.

I remember the anti-war stuff and the draft very well. The anti-war music was what we grew up with and identified with. The war and death counts were on the news every night. The older kids were much more concerned about the draft and all of us checked where our birthdays were in the draft lottery even if we were too young to be called.

 

[Trekka]

Trekka!!

So, what really I’m looking for is subgroups for the Missionary, Greatest, and Silent Generations.

Why?

(Not being sassy; I’m curious)

And why only those generations? Why not subgroups for the more recent generations? Too soon?

 

[Endless_Night]

Those two movies are very different!

I am an eclectic kind of Endless.

 

[Endless_Night]

One thing to also bear in mind with the Generation Jones grouping is they were the first who didn't have to worry about being drafted and sent to VietNam. >

< The older kids were much more concerned about the draft and all of us checked where our birthdays were in the draft lottery even if we were too young to be called.

Wow. I hadn't even considered the draft issue. What a different world, to not, in effect be living a version of The Lottery

Reaching adulthood in a couple of back-to-back recessions had it's own impact. No land of plenty and limitless possibility. I know both early and late Boomers, and I will say they seem very different in outlook.

The Joneses are supposed to be swing voters, if they vote at all, and rather anti-government. I wonder if they harbor an unusually high percentage of Libertarians?

 

[Endless_Night]

Why?

(Not being sassy; I’m curious)

And why only those generations? Why not subgroups for the more recent generations? Too soon?

Eh. I just got interested.

I like patterns. And cycles. And how people repeat sequences. And how environment and circumstance shape beliefs and behavior. Too, the turning generational events repeat in cycles of four, so is there a pattern to the linked generations? A pattern to the linked subgroups?

Besides, I like things to be orderly. meaning they should all have subgroups. According to their world events. Or most of them, anyway.

The recent generations are too recent. Not enough adult time for events and subsequent differences to flower. Though, I do think there's a name for coined for the Millennial subgroup. Zillenials?

 

[Trekka]

Eh. I just got interested.

I like patterns. And cycles. And how people repeat sequences. And how environment and circumstance shape beliefs and behavior. Too, the turning generational events repeat in cycles of four, so is there a pattern to the linked generations? A pattern to the linked subgroups?

Besides, I like things to orderly. meaning they should all have subgroups. According to their world events. Or most of them, anyway.

The recent generations are too recent. Not enough adult time for events and subsequent differences to flower. Though, I do think there's a name for coined for the Millennial subgroup. Zillenials?

WHAT.
Expand on this.

Also, why are all the newish generations a buncha Xs and Ys and Zs?

 

[Endless_Night]

WHAT.
Expand on this.

Also, why are all the newish generations a buncha Xs and Ys and Zs?

Hahahaha!

I DON'T KNOW

But I've often wondered. Did someone arbitrarily decide we're at the end of the alphabet? Do they know something we don't?


I'll be back to expand.

Must dash!

 

[DarkSimian]

Not to butt in, and I haven't done a lot of research on this, but....

From what I've always understood, generations were typically grouped in 25-30 yr blocks. But as we approached the tail end of the 20th Century, those groups got smaller and smaller. Gen X typically runs from about '65(or later) to '85 (~20 yrs). Millenials run from '85 to 2000 (~15 yrs). I'm not sure what the next groups have been called, but I think there are distinct groups from 2000-2010, and then 2010-.
Just my observations.

Also, I hate the term Millenial being used for the group from '85-2000. To me, a Millenial would be born after the new millennium (2001). Just my opinion....

 

[DeckardNYC]

I'd never heard that term before, but I Wiki'd it and it's me.

I remember the anti-war stuff and the draft very well. The anti-war music was what we grew up with and identified with. The war and death counts were on the news every night. The older kids were much more concerned about the draft and all of us checked where our birthdays were in the draft lottery even if we were too young to be called.

I guess I'm Generation Jones, although I didn't know the term existed until 5 minutes ago. Like AF says, we grew up on anti war music and the flower child hippie movement, although we felt a little removed. Did worry that the war would still be going, but it ended. Marched in the first Earth Day -- my kids were amazed to learn that. Still, always knew we were too young to be baby boomers, but we had no other label.

Wikipedia says "Key characteristics assigned to members are pessimism, distrust of government, and general cynicism." Probably right -- but isn't that sort of like a horoscope, it could fit any generation?

Anyway, glad to finally have an identity! (Is that sarcasm? Or cynicism?)

 

[JennyNo1]

Not to butt in, and I haven't done a lot of research on this, but....

From what I've always understood, generations were typically grouped in 25-30 yr blocks. But as we approached the tail end of the 20th Century, those groups got smaller and smaller. Gen X typically runs from about '65(or later) to '85 (~20 yrs). Millenials run from '85 to 2000 (~15 yrs). I'm not sure what the next groups have been called, but I think there are distinct groups from 2000-2010, and then 2010-.
Just my observations.

Also, I hate the term Millenial being used for the group from '85-2000. To me, a Millenial would be born after the new millennium (2001). Just my opinion....

It seems to me that the groups have usually been centered around world events and circumstances which tended to shape people's thinking, attitudes and opinions, such as the Great Depression, WWII, the post-war era of rebuilding and new beginnings, the era of the civil rights movement, Viet Nam, and the accompanying protests and music, and so on. I can see why the life span of those groups would seem to get smaller and smaller - so much of our society is driven by advances in technology, and technology seems to advance at ever-increasing speed. Ten years ago, I didn't even have a smartphone; now you can do just about anything on one that you could do on a computer back then - more actually. Things seem to change daily.

 

[Endless_Night]

WHAT.
Expand on this. >

It’s the Strauss–Howe generational theory. Soft science, and hardly definitive, but what our common generational names are based. The idea is based on the idea of four repeating cycles (called Turnings). Generations, and the events occurring within, are seen as more formative to belief and behavior than other social grouping such as, “economic class, race, sex, religion and political parties”.

Four Cycles (in a nutshell):

-The High - post-crisis social and economic high
-The Awakening - reclamation of personal and spiritual autonomy
-The Unraveling - individualism and distrust in institutions
-Crisis - war, revolution, destruction of institution

Eighty years. Rinse and Repeat.

The subgroups occur due to significant environmental change. Like the recession in late Boomer time, or the Millennial technology split. Here’s a wiki page. There’s also several books on the subject.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss–Howe_generational_theory

Anyway. Just a curiosity.

A Litster conversation involving timeframes (You know who you are. ) prompted my curiosity.

One of these days I’m going to have to look into a rabbit-hole anonymous group.

For my own sanity.

What’s left.

 

[Endless_Night]

< From what I've always understood, generations were typically grouped in 25-30 yr blocks. >

Pretty sure they're based on 20 year blocks, based on an 80 year lifespan. However, it's not static. Most seem to run 18-22ish years, and the more recent the generation the more fuzzy the lines. GenX and Millennials have varying ranges according to different sources. Something I suspect will level out as time goes by and the lines become more clear.

< Ten years ago, I didn't even have a smartphone; now you can do just about anything on one that you could do on a computer back then - more actually. Things seem to change daily.

Some have argued the generations are shortening due to rapid technological changes, but this particularly theory doesn't agree.

 

[Endless_Night]

< Anyway, glad to finally have an identity! (Is that sarcasm? Or cynicism?)

Cynicism.

*stands firm*

 

[hotwords229_A]

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Also, I hate the term Millenial being used for the group from '85-2000. To me, a Millenial would be born after the new millennium (2001). Just my opinion....

I agree and until recently I thought this was the case. I thought a Millennial was 20 or younger. It’s the only generational name that recognizes the time they existed, so why get it so wrong? Maybe the people who come up with the names jumped the gun and couldn’t wait another 15 years? Gen Z should have gone up to 2000 and then Millennials. In my awesome opinion.

I’m also bothered that the movie Godzilla 2000 (American version) is known as Godzilla Millennium in Japan. They needed to wait a year!

Great movie, though.

 

[Endless_Night]

< Also, I hate the term Millenial being used for the group from '85-2000. To me, a Millenial would be born after the new millennium (2001). Just my opinion....

< Gen Z should have gone up to 2000 and then Millennials. In my awesome opinion. >

According to Wiki:

"Members of this demographic cohort are known as millennials because they became adults around the turn of the millennium."

I do not condone this choice. I merely offer up the information.

< I’m also bothered that the movie Godzilla 2000 (American version) is known as Godzilla Millennium in Japan. They needed to wait a year!

Great movie, though.

Well,

You see,

Yeah. I got nothing.

 

[AbsintheFather]

Wow. I hadn't even considered the draft issue. What a different world, to not, in effect be living a version of The Lottery

Reaching adulthood in a couple of back-to-back recessions had it's own impact. No land of plenty and limitless possibility. I know both early and late Boomers, and I will say they seem very different in outlook.

The Joneses are supposed to be swing voters, if they vote at all, and rather anti-government. I wonder if they harbor an unusually high percentage of Libertarians?

I don't recall being aware of a recession when I got out of college. I painted houses that summer like I'd done for the previous couple of summers and when fall came, I went and got a 'real job', just like I'd planned on doing. It was a decent job with a bank and a couple years later when I'd saved enough, I moved out of my mom's home and bought a house. The interest rate was about 13%, but that was normal for those days. It was my first house, so I didn't know any different. It was just the reality of the day.

Although I've flirted with Libertarian-ism, I'm a middle of the road Republican who's voted for Bush, Obama, Romney and Hillary in the last four elections. I'm very much a swing voter. I dislike both extremes and although I don't necessarily trust government, I don't dislike it. It plays an important role in society and international relations.

Are we the Joneses because we drank the Kool Aid? (another reference from our generation )

 

[AlpineFresco]

This thread's title is very misleading!

 

[Endless_Night]

< Are we the Joneses because we drank the Kool Aid? (another reference from our generation )

That particular little reference is still in rotation, Sir. The PA at my yearly well-woman used it during my last visit. She is…early to mid 30s?

It's like how fashion styles come back around.

Can you even imagine the reaction today if a mortgage company quoted a 13% interest rate? There would be riots!


(Nice to see you, btw. Been a long time. )

 

[Endless_Night]

This thread's title is very misleading!

Confusion is the goal.

 

[Endless_Night]

Ice Sharks.

The actors leaned to simulate getting tossed about in their sunken research station. Not always in the same direction!

*snorts from laughing*


My life is now complete.

 

[Trekka]

Ice Sharks.

The actors leaned to simulate getting tossed about in their sunken research station. Not always in the same direction!

*snorts from laughing*


My life is now complete.

I would totally watch this. With popcorn and everything.

 

[hotwords229_A]

I just found out that I can buy a 16 foot inflatable movie screen and video projector for only a few hundred dollars! I thought those things cost waaway more than that.

I’m thinking movie night in hotwords’ backyard.