Electric Crisis Shocks California

Cheyenne

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This article was sent to me on a different discussion list I belong to. For all you Californians in the dark, I thought you might be interested in it.

http://www.insightmag.com/archive/200102279.shtml

By John Elvin
elvin@insightmag.com


The Sierra Club environmentalists told the leaders tasked with assuring that California would have plenty of electric power that their objective was to shut down the state.

As the lights go out in California, thanks to the Democratically controlled Legislature’s flawed deregulation scheme, the search for solutions is under way.

Although other states, such as Pennsylvania and Texas, have deregulated without incident by providing incentives to increase production facilities, the California plan concentrates on guaranteeing retail rates while freeing wholesale prices to increase with demand. And while the industry was eager to sign up when it looked like wholesale prices would be low, the unexpected upward zoom in demand has raised the wholesale price of spot electricity, set by bidding in the daily market, to levels that are threatening to bankrupt some companies.

Yet instead of taking steps to encourage the building of private power plants, the California Legislature has been discussing solutions such as “socializing the peak” — building government plants that would come online when demand is greatest. But it is quite possible that an educated public might not want to foot the enormous bills for government power plants, particularly since they already are paying the nation’s highest electricity prices. And there is talk of socializing the industry’s debts also, by approving bond issues to bail them out. But the real problem, say conservative critics, is that California has a built-in aversion to new private plants as a result of many years of ecological proselytizing by environmental groups. The crisis is the result of California ecological dreaming.

.....(The article continues from here- it is LONG)
 
Hey, what else would you expect from the Land of Fruits and Nuts?
 
It is even scarier if you can force yourself to read the whole article. It contends that the Sierra club wants to take over and help form a world wide government that will take care of us all, especially the animals. Kind of wacky, but interesting.
 
As someone living in the midst of this power crisis, I have to say that is one of the most paranoid, bizarre, utter ridiculous things I think I've ever read.

Will someone please keep reminding me not to open any of these political or quasi-political threads? Thanks.
 
Laurel said:
As someone living in the midst of this power crisis, I have to say that is one of the most paranoid, bizarre, utter ridiculous things I think I've ever read.
Can I assume you read the whole article? I SAID it was wacky! It started out fairly normal (blaming the "Democratically controlled Legislature’s flawed deregulation scheme" ;) ) but got weird after that. Can I also assume you don't think there is a world wide conspiracy lead by the Sierra club? LOL
 
What power crisis?

I'm in San Diego and everyone keeps yapping about rolling blackouts but I have yet to see them. I still don't understand what the hell is going on here. (I was too lazy to read more than three sentences of that article.) Who wants to explain to me (in English) why California has no power?
 
Cheyenne said:
Can I also assume you don't think there is a world wide conspiracy lead by the Sierra club? LOL

Of course not! Now the Good Sam Club, that's another story...
 
Sams Club is a very scary conspiracy afoot in America...

:p
 
Ah, but that was the whole point of posting it. It sounded so reasonable, until it started to go on and on about the Sierra club taking over the world with some Roman club and secret membership, etc. Do people actually believe this stuff?
 
Oh yes my dear Asp they do believe it.....

:p
 
Laurel:
"Will someone please keep reminding me not to open any of these political or quasi-political threads? Thanks."

Don't you start a large quantity of political and quasi-political thread?
I'd tell you but I know you won't listen.
 
Cheyenne said:
Ah, but that was the whole point of posting it. It sounded so reasonable, until it started to go on and on about the Sierra club taking over the world with some Roman club and secret membership, etc. Do people actually believe this stuff?

That's the freaky part - PEOPLE DO! There are people out there - people who you consider 'normal, everyday folks' - who buy into the most bizarre, convoluted, Hanger-18, grassy-knoll-type shit imaginable. You invent a conspiracy, and there's a whole audience of freaks out there ready and willing to believe it with all of their hearts. It's like mind poison. It's scary.
 
Never said:
Don't you start a large quantity of political and quasi-political thread?

Hey, waittaminute! I don't start em, I just add to 'em... Don't give me too much credit!
 
So sad to hear the problembs of the energy crisis in Ca, and everywhere else in the country. The reason? Pure and simple GREED! When everyone in the position to gouge the consumer decides they could get more than 10% profit simply by raising the rates (after deregulation of course), when there are no safeguardes in place after they pass the de-regulation legislation, you can find several layers of profiteers by examining who buys what power from whom.
We have had PUBLIC POWER in Nebraska forever, seems like and we do not need competition to hold rates in line. We have had Nuke, Gas, Coal, and Water Generation Plants tied into our Power Grid for some time. We enjoy modest rates because we(the citizens)own the entire system. That in and of itself is the biggest and the best way. The savings are called profit-sharing. Why should only a few stockholders reap the profit?

Siren. . .Laurel said "Good Sam Club" Maybe she referred to the Camping Organization?, not the Walton Sam's Club. . .
 
Arby said:
Siren. . .Laurel said "Good Sam Club" Maybe she referred to the Camping Organization?, not the Walton Sam's Club. . .

Yeah, the camping one. Those little red circles, with that sinister-looking 'angel' on them. The way he winks at you from that red background, with that 'halo' around his head. Why a red background? Notice you always see them on campers, usually ones owned by people over 40? That doesn't suspicious to you all?
 
And what about Triple A? Don't you wonder what those 3 A's REALLY stand for?
 
Hey, Laurel, You got that one. Just thinking about why I joined the "Good Sam's Club". I enjoyed Camping. I am over 40 years old. I liked the immage portrayed by the Halo over Sam's head. (The red background is for catching your eye). Being a "Good Sammer" I can call my wife "Samantha", I've loved that name forever. And so it goes.

Now if you all believe that, I've still got a lot of loosiaanna swampland for sale at just a little more than I paid for it! ! !
 
Arby said:
Hey, Laurel, You got that one. Just thinking about why I joined the "Good Sam's Club". I enjoyed Camping. I am over 40 years old. I liked the immage portrayed by the Halo over Sam's head. (The red background is for catching your eye). Being a "Good Sammer" I can call my wife "Samantha", I've loved that name forever. And so it goes.

See! I told you...it's a plot to unite all the baby boomers and take over the world. They're going to decend on D.C. in their campers, armed with hibachis and marshmellows. Really!
 
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