cantdog
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pop_54 said:I'm with the good Dr and Oggie on this one, war is shit, no real winners. War was different way back of course, not so high tech and more sort of personal, you actually saw your enemy, often face to face, not as now, dropping things on them from a mile or so up. I too have various uncles and other relatives spread about the world planted somewhere in a foreign field or jungle.
As we're finding though the supposed peace is just as bad... this phase isn't war of course... not even part of the world war on Terrorists... This is a bunch of Iraqi's trying it on to get their own way after years of being held back.
Unfortunately these types don't follow the same sort of rules as do we... They are also very hard to subdue or control because they are willing to die for their cause, and think that all of their enemies should feel the same way. They have no military training, and I doubt they keep a copy of the rules of 'The Geneva Convention' handy.
To the Iraqi captors, these hostages they're grabbing at the moment are no more than cannon fodder put there by the enemy. The troops occupying their lands are just a bunch of invading savages to these people. We can all throw our arms up and protest about this hostage taking and other war like acts in Iraq, but we must remember, we are occupying someone else's country, some locals are bound to be a bit pissed off.
Given these circumstances it will be a very difficult and bloody task rescuing anyone from them. That's not to say nobody should try, just that it could be doomed to disaster.
They mostly do have military training. Iraq had universal military service. We disbanded the army, but most people of a certain age have been in the army for a while as one of the costs of Iraqi citizenship. We teach our soldiers about the Geneva Convention rules; I daresay they did theirs, but what the hell. Once somebody occupies the place, you probably fight how you can.
Some of the hostage taking people, like the beheader of Berg, aren't Iraqi at all, but as foreign as we are over there. They have another agenda than the Iraqi insurgents do.
I don't know if Washington makes the distinction, but the Iraqis do. This stuff isn't necessarily being done by Iraqis or in their name.
cantdog