E-cigarettes?

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Well that's great because I'm not a smoking Nazi just like you aren't an anti-smoking Nazi. So when some people (not you) of your persuasion want to preach what everybody else should do and try to ban cigs from even being sold then that is invading my space and they can go fuck off as well. It works both ways.

The Indians had it right with smoking peace pipes which was tobacco only without any man-made chemicals added in.

Psst...

You're kinda, sorta, maybe a little bit, coming across as, OK, passionate. Please, put your cock down and breathe...

 

[Angeline]

Stay out of Chinatown...you'd hate it.

Don't forget the nose blowing.

 

[Sweet_Carolina]

hi,
im a regular smoker and thinking of using these e ciggerettes..
are there any side effects.. ???

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

I quit cold turkey. Not easy, yet effective.

 

[JoeRockStar]

I'm waiting for the tetra-hyrdro-cannabinol version.

That one actually came out first. Google the "Volcano".

 

[JoeRockStar]

hi,
im a regular smoker and thinking of using these e ciggerettes..
are there any side effects.. ???

So far the only ones I've noticed are a result of NOT smoking regular cigarettes. Some folks can have an allergic reaction to the liquid depending on type (PG or VG), but it's relatively rare and to date it's the only side effect I've heard of.

The technology is pretty new so problems and long-term side effects may pop up down the road unfortunately. IMO it HAS to be better for me than cigarettes so I'll take my chances.

 

[koalabear]

FDA Warns of Health Risks Posed by E-Cigarettes
Search Consumer Updates


http://www.fda.gov/forconsumers/consumerupdates/ucm173401.htm

 

[JoeRockStar]

FDA Warns of Health Risks Posed by E-Cigarettes
Search Consumer Updates


http://www.fda.gov/forconsumers/consumerupdates/ucm173401.htm

From the article:

The agency is concerned that

e-cigarettes can increase nicotine addiction among young people and may lead kids to try other tobacco products, including conventional cigarettes, which are known to cause disease and lead to premature death

Yet Nicorette gum, patches, inhalers, lozenges and lollipops are legal and contain MORE nicotine than e-cigs.

the products may contain ingredients that are known to be toxic to humans
because clinical studies about the safety and efficacy of these products for their intended use have not been submitted to FDA, consumers currently have no way of knowing 1) whether e-cigarettes are safe for their intended use, or 2) about what types or concentrations of potentially harmful chemicals or what dose of nicotine they are inhaling when they use these products.

There are 2 primary forms of e-cig liquids. One uses propylene glycol, the same fluid used in fog machines at shows/concerts, etc. It is FULLY APPROVED by the FDA. Below is a link to Dow's PSA sheet on propylene glycol:

http://www.dow.com/productsafety/finder/prog.htm#PhysicalHazard

The 2nd is vegetable glycerin which is also FULLY APPROVED for food use. Couldn't find a PSA for it but did find this link affirming it's safety:

http://www.botanical.com/products/learn/vegetable-glycerine.html

Think about this, what 2 MAJOR industries stand to lose a LOT of profit from e-cigs? Big tobacoo and big pharma. Common sense tells you that lobbyists have dumped MAJOR $$'s in the FDA's pocket to try and stop these.

You want more convincing? Take a big drag off a cigarette and blow the smoke through a paper towel. You get a nice brown, sticky ring of crap. Do the same with an e-cig. You get a wet spot that evaporates COMPLETELY CLEAR after about 10 minutes. I did this test myself and the above was my result. That convinced me to make the switch.

It's a month on e-cigs for me now and I feel better than I have in years! No more coughing, no more wheezing, and I have tons of energy now.

 

[koalabear]

Best reason for not approving them, Sin Taxes, States would lose billions in revenue.

 

[John Doe]

"Cry me a river, my health insurance premiums are higher because the company has to pay for excessive care for smokers poor health and spread the costs to me and my wife who has never smoked."

So would you rather pay higher premiums because of excessive care for workers who drove recklessly and got into car accidents or smoked marijuana or drank excessively instead? It's all relative man. If people didn't smoke to relieve stress they would do something else that you would have to pay health premiums for. That's life. No one is going to take away my 2 cigs a day.

You are an idiot.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I've tried to give up the Skoal for years now. But I've given up on the giving up.

 

[John Doe]

I've tried to give up the Skoal for years now. But I've given up on the giving up.

Stop putting it in your mouth.

(I never thought I'd say that on Lit)

 

[topale]

Anyone still using e-cigs? They have come a long way since this thread started. I recently bought an Itaste SVD. Yes anything that has a name that begins with I is corny but this device is nice. It's huge (its a mod device and not one of the mall kiosk ones) but I don't tote the thing around everywhere....basically use it when sitting in front of the computer. Nowadays they have a "tank" system which is popular with mod devices because you don't have to fill them multiple times a day. I fill this thing about once a day. Definitely beats the older cartridge devices like the kiosk product. And much better than dripping with my old mod device.

 

[Zitella]

Use a Provari everyday for the past 3 yrs. I use a protank and it works perfectly

 

[LusterMunky]

If you have to light up, smoke American Spirits. 100% tobacco, 0% additives.

 

[topale]

Use a Provari everyday for the past 3 yrs. I use a protank and it works perfectly

Nice...what's your juice? I use Protank II and love it. RY4 is what I'm sticking with from now on.

 

[Garnate]

Anyone still using e-cigs? They have come a long way since this thread started. I recently bought an Itaste SVD. Yes anything that has a name that begins with I is corny but this device is nice. It's huge (its a mod device and not one of the mall kiosk ones) but I don't tote the thing around everywhere....basically use it when sitting in front of the computer. Nowadays they have a "tank" system which is popular with mod devices because you don't have to fill them multiple times a day. I fill this thing about once a day. Definitely beats the older cartridge devices like the kiosk product. And much better than dripping with my old mod device.

My friend recently started selling vaporizers and custom fluids so I switched to that a month and a half ago and haven't needed a cigarette since. What's the deal with the itaste SVD? I'm not familiar with it. I mean, clearly you just explained what you like about it but I'm still sitting here wishing it was in English. Blame the blonde. I fill my regular cartomizer once a day and have never experienced any dripping. Help a chick out; how huge is huge?

(That's what she said)

 

[JohnnySavage]

My friend recently started selling vaporizers and custom fluids so I switched to that a month and a half ago and haven't needed a cigarette since. What's the deal with the itaste SVD? I'm not familiar with it. I mean, clearly you just explained what you like about it but I'm still sitting here wishing it was in English. Blame the blonde. I fill my regular cartomizer once a day and have never experienced any dripping. Help a chick out; how huge is huge?

(That's what she said)

I was in your neck of the woods the other day. I didn't see you though.

 

[Garnate]

I was in your neck of the woods the other day. I didn't see you though.

That's bizarre. From 9am to 4pm I stand in my driveway yelling your name. After that I take a well-deserved nap.

 

[CaptainKirk]

I've been using a Vivi Nova tank system with a Lava manual battery since New Year's Day. Started with Blu E-cigs in '13 and they helped me to cut down on analog cigs. I now use my 'vaper' exclusively.

Three months and still not one analog cigarette lit. These things really do work, if you hang in there and really try. I have a craving every now and then, but my vaper helps take the edge off. I'm slowly taking down my nicotine level from 1.8% (a 'regular' cig, according to the smoke shop guy) to 1.1% (a 'light' cig). Regular tobacco flavored E-juice for me, with a little French Vanilla thrown in. Tried the chocolate... meh. I prefer the real thing.

I feel great! I can breathe deeply without coughing or hacking up discolored phlegm, my singing voice has improved, and the best part (for me)? My daughter hugged me and said she was proud of me. I'm not going to let her down. She's already lost one parent to cancer (my wife), I won't let her lose both.

I keep seeing the negative ads and posts on the net. Don't listen to them, folks. It's just Big Tobacco and Big Pharma scare tactic propaganda telling you there are dangerous chemicals in E-cigs and they're worse than analog cigs. These greedy clowns are full of shit! The chemicals used in E-cigs have already been approved by the FDA, have been for decades; you ingest them with foods and drinks every damn day!

I finally found something that helps me, I'll be damned if I'm going to let corporate greed take it away from me!

 

[topale]

My friend recently started selling vaporizers and custom fluids so I switched to that a month and a half ago and haven't needed a cigarette since. What's the deal with the itaste SVD? I'm not familiar with it. I mean, clearly you just explained what you like about it but I'm still sitting here wishing it was in English. Blame the blonde. I fill my regular cartomizer once a day and have never experienced any dripping. Help a chick out; how huge is huge?

(That's what she said)

This thing is 8.5". Its thick too and weighs probably a half pound. I've heard of cartomizers but not sure how they work. I think they were precursor to tank systems?

 

[islandman]

Sweet Jesus....

Cartomizers? Tank systems?

Back in my day, if you wanted to smoke, you smoked. If you wanted to quit, you quit.

And if you wanted to fool around with tank systems, you'd wait until the lung cancer kicked in and you'd be wheeling around one of those small, green oxygen tanks around with you till the end of days.

Fucking kids and their smoking-techno-babble.

 

[Garnate]

This thing is 8.5". Its thick too and weighs probably a half pound. I've heard of cartomizers but not sure how they work. I think they were precursor to tank systems?

It must be. Although my friend just sent me a 2" tank (I think that's what it's called; I don't pay attention when people say words). I met a guy the other week at the bar that had, what I assume to be, the type you're talking about because the base of the thing was massive and heavy as fuck. Could double as a blunt instrument if a bar fight broke out, which is nice. I think the sheer weight of it would drive me nuts, though.

 

[Garnate]

Sweet Jesus....

Cartomizers? Tank systems?

Back in my day, if you wanted to smoke, you smoked. If you wanted to quit, you quit.

And if you wanted to fool around with tank systems, you'd wait until the lung cancer kicked in and you'd be wheeling around one of those small, green oxygen tanks around with you till the end of days.

Fucking kids and their smoking-techno-babble.

Get with the times, old man.

*All up on your lawn*

 

[islandman]

Get with the times, old man.

*All up on your lawn*

Bring a can of oxygen we can share.