Dumb "reviews" & censorship?

[freddie_clegg]

One of my stories just got the following two public comments.....

"Another sick story about boys whose idea of manhood is so bad that they can only get a hard on by imagining that they are somehow superior---THEY ARE NOT."

and

"All BDSM control freak writers are really little wimpy, double chinned, pot bellied pukes that cant beat their way out of a wet paper bag."

Now, I wouldn't mind if the story wasn't specified as BDSM and I don't like to censor other people's points of view (even if they are posted anonymously as these were) but it seems unfair to me that other people who are happy with what they are should have to put up with this sort of abusive comment at the end of a story that maybe they enjoyed.

I will own up to being pot-bellied and unable to beat my way out of a wet paper bag but the rest of it isn't true, dammit!

What are other people's views?

(PS One commenter came to my support - for which much thanks if you read this.)

 

[Stella_Omega]

It seems as if someone is complaining bitterly (possibly about their own life?) in the BDSM section;
https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=520945

usually I delete those comments, sometimes they tickle my sense of humor and I leave them up

 

[Boxlicker101]

It seems as if someone is complaining bitterly (possibly about their own life?) in the BDSM section;
https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=520945

usually I delete those comments, sometimes they tickle my sense of humor and I leave them up

I pretty much agree with Stella here. It doesn't really make much sense to read in the category if you dislike it. However, that is one of the things that trolls do. They make scathing comments in the LW category, but in others too.

I would probably delete these two comments, as being pointless. Sometimes, if the commenter is semi-literate, I leave it there to get a laugh out of it.

 

[Krinein]

I'm not sure why you are bothering to criticise criticism that you obviously don't value in the first place.

Move on.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I'm not sure why you are bothering to criticise criticism that you obviously don't value in the first place.

Move on.

It's called "griping". It serves no real purpose, except for providing a certain satisfaction.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I'm not sure why you are bothering to criticise criticism that you obviously don't value in the first place.

Move on.

It's one of the things that makes writers write.

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Now, I wouldn't mind if the story wasn't specified as BDSM and I don't like to censor other people's points of view (even if they are posted anonymously as these were) but it seems unfair to me that other people who are happy with what they are should have to put up with this sort of abusive comment at the end of a story that maybe they enjoyed.

Are you trying to come up with a justification for deleting the comments? Do it! Who cares? But what is the point in whining about them? And seriously, trying to justifying it with the readers' right not to read "abusive comments" at the end? That's ridiculous. First, people don't have to read any comments unless they choose to. Second, it's a bit of a stretch to call those comments "abusive". They're negative, yes, but that's what you get for asking people their opinions: some will like it and say it, some won't like it and say it. BDSM (bondage, discipline, domination, submission, sadism, masochism) is about much more than control-freaks and boys acting superior, so perhaps what these readers were saying is that your story isn't up to their BDSM standard.

 

[tickledkitty]

So now we're criticizing the criticism of the criticism?

 

[Lauren Hynde]

So now we're criticizing the criticism of the criticism?

Hey, this is the Author's Hangout. It's what we do. When we're not criticising criticism of criticism, we're discussing underwear.

 

[RonClarkeson]

Best Practise is!

Are you trying to come up with a justification for deleting the comments? Do it! Who cares? But what is the point in whining about them? And seriously, trying to justifying it with the readers' right not to read "abusive comments" at the end? That's ridiculous. First, people don't have to read any comments unless they choose to. Second, it's a bit of a stretch to call those comments "abusive". They're negative, yes, but that's what you get for asking people their opinions: some will like it and say it, some won't like it and say it. BDSM (bondage, discipline, domination, submission, sadism, masochism) is about much more than control-freaks and boys acting superior, so perhaps what these readers were saying is that your story isn't up to their BDSM standard.

Use their negative response to advertise your next story!

The trolls will eventually get to know that your are a writer and do not give a shit about what they write because you can use it to your advantage!

Remember any sort of critiscsm is good even if its negative!

 

[Stella_Omega]

Freddie, I just took a look at a couple of your stories-- always looking for a thrill, me-- and I think I've found one reason why this person might be upset;

I looked at "Greenwich Tales 1" "The Goon Show" and "original soundtrack". Your stories include a strong element of non-consent, and would probably do well in that category-- or you might add a note to your readers warning them. I certainly would, myself!

To much of the BDSM community, kidnapping and force are fine within a fantasy scene but it just isn't sexy unless there is consent eventually. And, of course, plenty of women come here to read, and you'll just have to accept the fact that your repeated kidnap-that-girl scenario will push a button or two. Me, I think "goon show" is a decent stroker

 

[freddie_clegg]

Are you trying to come up with a justification for deleting the comments? Do it! Who cares? But what is the point in whining about them? And seriously, trying to justifying it with the readers' right not to read "abusive comments" at the end? That's ridiculous. First, people don't have to read any comments unless they choose to. Second, it's a bit of a stretch to call those comments "abusive". They're negative, yes, but that's what you get for asking people their opinions: some will like it and say it, some won't like it and say it. BDSM (bondage, discipline, domination, submission, sadism, masochism) is about much more than control-freaks and boys acting superior, so perhaps what these readers were saying is that your story isn't up to their BDSM standard.

(1) No, not trying to come up with a justification - just trying to get a sense of what folk around here think about this sort of thing. Thanks for your thoughts.

(2) I'm not whining, just puzzled by this sort of anonymous review, not justifying anything.

(3) Yeah - "abusive" was probably too strong. I guess my view is that there are lots of things in the BDSM world that don't enthuse me but I don't slag off others for being keen on different things so I feel why should anyone have to put up with that? I think that's more than "negative" but let's not quibble.

 

[freddie_clegg]

Freddie, I just took a look at a couple of your stories-- always looking for a thrill, me-- and I think I've found one reason why this person might be upset;

I looked at "Greenwich Tales 1" "The Goon Show" and "original soundtrack". Your stories include a strong element of non-consent, and would probably do well in that category-- or you might add a note to your readers warning them. I certainly would, myself!

To much of the BDSM community, kidnapping and force are fine within a fantasy scene but it just isn't sexy unless there is consent eventually. And, of course, plenty of women come here to read, and you'll just have to accept the fact that your repeated kidnap-that-girl scenario will push a button or two. Me, I think "goon show" is a decent stroker

Ah! (lights of understanding flash on)

This is helpful. I'd overlooked the "non-consensual" section and I agree that would probably be a more appropriate place for my stuff which is generally in that area. I'll take that on board.

Thanks for comp on Goon Show, I've got a sort of sequel coming someday....

 

[Stella_Omega]

Ah! (lights of understanding flash on)

This is helpful. I'd overlooked the "non-consensual" section and I agree that would probably be a more appropriate place for my stuff which is generally in that area. I'll take that on board.

Thanks for comp on Goon Show, I've got a sort of sequel coming someday....

You've just proven your complainant is wrong about you

(And you can do a resubmit to change categories, if you feel it's advisable)

 

[Boxlicker101]

Are you trying to come up with a justification for deleting the comments? Do it! Who cares? But what is the point in whining about them? And seriously, trying to justifying it with the readers' right not to read "abusive comments" at the end? That's ridiculous. First, people don't have to read any comments unless they choose to. Second, it's a bit of a stretch to call those comments "abusive". They're negative, yes, but that's what you get for asking people their opinions: some will like it and say it, some won't like it and say it. BDSM (bondage, discipline, domination, submission, sadism, masochism) is about much more than control-freaks and boys acting superior, so perhaps what these readers were saying is that your story isn't up to their BDSM standard.

How can you say these are not abusive?

"Another sick story about boys whose idea of manhood is so bad that they can only get a hard on by imagining that they are somehow superior---THEY ARE NOT."

and

"All BDSM control freak writers are really little wimpy, double chinned, pot bellied pukes that cant beat their way out of a wet paper bag."

The first one might just be harsh criticism, but the second is a personal attack on the writer.

As for whining about them? every author gripes about trolls. It is one of the main themes of this forum.

 

[rgraham666]

Well, in my view, neither of the comments are criticism. They're rants.

Criticism is a carefully worded missive pointing out where the weak spots in a work are.

These are rants because they say nothing about the quality of the work. They do say plenty about the quality of the poster.

So my take is leave them up for the giggle value.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Well, in my view, neither of the comments are criticism. They're rants.

Criticism is a carefully worded missive pointing out where the weak spots in a work are.

These are rants because they say nothing about the quality of the work. They do say plenty about the quality of the poster.

So my take is leave them up for the giggle value.

It would seem that the weak spot is that the stories are perceived to be in the wrong category.

 

[freddie_clegg]

Thanks all for the comments on this and thanks especially to Stella_Omega for suggesting the stories are in the wrong category. I'm taking that advice but I've decided to let the comments stay.

 

[Penelope Street]

... usually I delete those comments, sometimes they tickle my sense of humor and I leave them up

I know! Some are so amusing I just can't bear to part with them.