DrDav's therapy thread

DrDav

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Okay, thought I'd start my own thread. So how about a self help group?

I'll go first see what you all think...

...I think I do have a problem with my self-esteem, but when I try to compensate for that, I do be kind of myself and be happy that my appearance isn't completley unattractive to the opposite sex. It's all me, it's like I'm holding myself back, and I also just do not have that male predatory instinct to go after someone. Well, correction, it's there but it just isn't connected to the any parts of my brain that actually make me act on it

A couple of nights ago, I was in a bar, and I am sure that a young bar maid was interested in me. We kept making eye contact and giving each other lovely smiles. Although even though I did have a few moments of opportunity, I couldn't bring myself to "go for it" as they say, and actually go strike up a conversation with anyone. (Not that I'm implying I thought it would lead to an immediate sexual encounter, but I even seem to hold myself back at making 'first contact').

In all my life, I've only ever "chatted up" a girl in a club once (for which I was successful, we dated for a month, but didn't go any further). There was one time after that I was doing okay, but I don't count that because I was on the rebound and discovered I was actually chatting up a lesbian All that was a few years ago when my confidence peaked.

That's the other thing, it's not as if I'm not confident or good with people. I'm not a teacher, but I did used to work at a university, and I've had to deal visiting school kids (where I gave a class), and I have taken visitors around the campus, and I've stood up given presentations on my projects in front of high-ranking staff. So I'm not typically shy. I Just hold myself back going after women I like.
 
I think it just takes time for many people. I am a talker (yeah DGO ha ha) and very easily strike up conversations but my motive is simple. I just enjoy learning about others, sharing a moment as it were.

With the bar maid you mentioned, perhaps you might go in for a late lunch or the like, when it is more quiet. Sit at the bar, she will have to keep tending the bar but will also have a moment or two to chat. Maybe bring the local newspaper and look for interesting articles to share, something that's funny or touching, they're good conversation starters.

Relax, be you. Keep things in perspective, look at it as sharing a few moments with another person...to me that's the good stuff of life.

:rose:
 
Cathleen said:
I think it just takes time for many people. I am a talker (yeah DGO ha ha) and very easily strike up conversations but my motive is simple. I just enjoy learning about others, sharing a moment as it were.

With the bar maid you mentioned, perhaps you might go in for a late lunch or the like, when it is more quiet. Sit at the bar, she will have to keep tending the bar but will also have a moment or two to chat. Maybe bring the local newspaper and look for interesting articles to share, something that's funny or touching, they're good conversation starters.

Relax, be you. Keep things in perspective, look at it as sharing a few moments with another person...to me that's the good stuff of life.

:rose:


Are you seeking help?
 
Cathleen said:
That's my doll!!! I loved my Chatty Cathy. I was rather quiet as a child but obviously that's over - and I'm still blonde with blue eyes!

I'm just staring at her and smiling... thanks DGO, you've given me a wonderful moment here. :rose:


I was quiet too because of a speech problem..........gee, we're making up for it now.
 
done_got_old said:
I was quiet too because of a speech problem..........gee, we're making up for it now.
Yes we are... we're smarter now too so it makes it all that more special to impart our wisdom to others. ;)
 
Cathleen said:
Yes we are... we're smarter now too so it makes it all that more special to impart our wisdom to others. ;)
LOL, I'm sure some would shake their heads at that comment.
 
done_got_old said:
LOL, I'm sure some would shake their heads at that comment.
Yeah well, then they'd hear rocks in their head too! lol
 
Cathleen said:
I think it just takes time for many people. I am a talker (yeah DGO ha ha) and very easily strike up conversations but my motive is simple. I just enjoy learning about others, sharing a moment as it were.

With the bar maid you mentioned, perhaps you might go in for a late lunch or the like, when it is more quiet. Sit at the bar, she will have to keep tending the bar but will also have a moment or two to chat. Maybe bring the local newspaper and look for interesting articles to share, something that's funny or touching, they're good conversation starters.

Relax, be you. Keep things in perspective, look at it as sharing a few moments with another person...to me that's the good stuff of life.

:rose:

Thanks for that Cathleen (and nice to meet you),

I'm alright talking to woman as long as it's just talking for the sake of being social. If I know I'm doing it because I'm interested in them, then all my confidence or motiviation (I'm not sure which) falls apart.

Perhaps I have "issues" :confused: :eek:
 
DrDav said:
Thanks for that Cathleen (and nice to meet you),

I'm alright talking to woman as long as it's just talking for the sake of being social. If I know I'm doing it because I'm interested in them, then all my confidence or motiviation (I'm not sure which) falls apart.

Perhaps I have "issues" :confused: :eek:

Perhaps you're just normal.
 
done_got_old said:
Perhaps you're just normal.
I've been assuming not, because the species hasn't died out yet (in fact it's getting bigger), so someone's doing something :D
 
DrDav said:
I've been assuming not, because the species hasn't died out yet (in fact it's getting bigger), so someone's doing something :D

Maybe you should make it a habit to talk to women without thinking about scoring. Just talk to them! You sound like a really nice guy, talk to women and let them see that. Who knows what will happen next. I've met a lot of men who are just like you, so perhaps you are more normal than you think you are.
 
done_got_old said:
Maybe you should make it a habit to talk to women without thinking about scoring. Just talk to them! You sound like a really nice guy, talk to women and let them see that. Who knows what will happen next. I've met a lot of men who are just like you, so perhaps you are more normal than you think you are.

Thank you for the kind reply.

I'm also one of those guys who is always a girl's (or lady's) friend. Everyone sees me as a nice guy, and that's all. I have a lot of female friends, none of them has ever suggested we took things further (and I'm not only talking about sex, I mean anything meaningful that is beyond friendship).
 
DrDav said:
Thank you for the kind reply.

I'm also one of those guys who is always a girl's (or lady's) friend. Everyone sees me as a nice guy, and that's all. I have a lot of female friends, none of them has ever suggested we took things further (and I'm not only talking about sex, I mean anything meaningful that is beyond friendship).


I hope some nice lady recognizes your worth soon. Don't give up, she's out there.
 
done_got_old said:
Perhaps you're just normal.

Totally normal. *nods*

I'm shy so I go out of way to push myself out of my own comfort-zone and approach people. It's something you work on until you get it right. Just keep your chin up and every once in a while, take a little leap out of your comfort-zone and you'll do just fine. Some lucky lady will be awfully glad you did. :)
 
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