Down-ticket races - Congress, Senate, Referendums

[Safe_Bet]

SAFE_BET

3 cheers for the bigots.

I guess this means you stay a weird monkey for a while.

I just finished explaining to my two little girls why people don't want their parents to be married anymore. They are getting ready for school now with tears streaming down their faces. You must be so proud of being part of doing that to a couple of seven year olds.

P.S. Pray I never meet you in person. Pray really, really hard.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

I just finished explaining to my two little girls why people don't want their parents to be married anymore. They are getting ready for school now with tears streaming down their faces. You must be so proud of being part of doing that to a couple of seven year olds.

P.S. Pray I never meet you in person. Pray really, really hard.

Constitutional referendums don't usually apply retroactively... AND there was nothing in this bill specifically addressing nullifying marriages that had already taken place.

Not that it's much of a consolation.

But I think, technically, you are still married, if you were married before it passed.

And this WILL wind up in the courts.

HUGS to you and yours.

I'm finally putting JBJ on ignore. That was too much, even for me.

 

[Guest]

edited the quote out

Of all the malicious unthinking and just disgusting posts. I had three people on ignore... now I have four. Dear Goddess how could you say that.... never mind, I know... you are simply ugly inside.

 

[fieryjen]

Of all the malicious unthinking and just disgusting posts. I had three people on ignore... now I have four. Dear Goddess how could you say that.... never mind, I know... you are simply ugly inside.

Please don't quote him.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Please don't quote him.

Yeah, it makes "ignore" rather moot.

 

[Liar]

So what are the bigot referendums, and how did they go?

California, Florida and one more...Arizona?... voted to add discrimination into the constitution, or something like that.

There was something about abortions in CA too (what was it for or against and who won?), and that adoption thing in NE.

Anything else gone down the crapper behind the presidential curtains?

 

[Selena_Kitt]

So what are the bigot referendums, and how did they go?

California, Florida and one more...Arizona?... voted to add discrimination into the constitution, or something like that.

There was something about abortions in CA too (what was it for or against and who won?), and that adoption thing in NE.

Anything else gone down the crapper behind the presidential curtains?

Colorado defeated the abortion thing.
Colorado voters have defeated a ballot measure that would have defined life as beginning at conception.

Proposal 8 (gay marriage) in CA is still undecided. Technically.

Florida and Arizona's passed. Marriage defined as one man, one woman.

And the Nebraska adoption thing also passed. No single person can adopt.

On a side note, Michigan approved medical use of marijuana and embryonic stem cell research...

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

ELIZABETH

Last night America drew the line between okay and weird. It was necessary because state supreme courts have no clue where to draw lines and dont respect the laws that define where lines are. That is, judges have no respect for the democratic process. Judges make it up as they go along....like perfumed princes.

Now! If I was a self-respecting gay I'd be wondering about democracy and judges. Judges and democracies can send your ass to a concentration camp or a gas chamber for no better cause than whim. They can make you President on a whim. In 1857 the US Supreme Court decided blacks are niggers, and a violent civil war didnt change the decision. Blacks were no more citizens at the end of the war than they were at the beginning. And theyre citizens today because the Republicans locked the Democrats out of the Capitol Building when the vote was taken on the 14th Amendment.

If gays want to stop being weird they need to do some horse trading with bigots like me.

 

[Katyusha]

So what are the bigot referendums, and how did they go?

California, Florida and one more...Arizona?... voted to add discrimination into the constitution, or something like that.

There was something about abortions in CA too (what was it for or against and who won?), and that adoption thing in NE.

Anything else gone down the crapper behind the presidential curtains?

I talked to my stepmother last night right after they called the election for Obama. She and my father still live in AZ and neither of them could believe that was a pending amendment to the state constitution. In fact, neither of them could believe that was even on the ballot to begin with. I agree with those who are disgusted at hatred and bigotry reigning so supreme that laws like this end up where they don't belong. I hope they all get challenged in court and I hope those damned referenda are defeated there.

 

[Katyusha]

ELIZABETH

Last night America drew the line between okay and weird. It was necessary because state supreme courts have no clue where to draw lines and dont respect the laws that define where lines are. That is, judges have no respect for the democratic process. Judges make it up as they go along....like perfumed princes.

Now! If I was a self-respecting gay I'd be wondering about democracy and judges. Judges and democracies can send your ass to a concentration camp or a gas chamber for no better cause than whim. They can make you President on a whim. In 1857 the US Supreme Court decided blacks are niggers, and a violent civil war didnt change the decision. Blacks were no more citizens at the end of the war than they were at the beginning. And theyre citizens today because the Republicans locked the Democrats out of the Capitol Building when the vote was taken on the 14th Amendment.

If gays want to stop being weird they need to do some horse trading with bigots like me.

Let's not forget that the Civil War was NOT about slavery, which is a big huge part of why blacks were no more citizens at the end of the war than they were when South Carolina first decided to secede. The South saw slavery as a states' rights issue, but they went to separate from the Union over other states' rights issues too. In short, they felt that the federal government was getting too big and they decided to take a drastic measure to do something about it.

Thus...your point...is moot. The question is whether or not gays should have the right to marry at all, not who should have the final decision regarding gay marriage.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

SAFE_BET

Tears dont work on me, dear. Try changing my mind about you.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I just finished explaining to my two little girls why people don't want their parents to be married anymore. They are getting ready for school now with tears streaming down their faces. You must be so proud of being part of doing that to a couple of seven year olds.

P.S. Pray I never meet you in person. Pray really, really hard.

Sweetheart, you were the first person I thought about when I woke up this morning. I am so very, very sorry, words can't begin to express it. This state will be the site of a lot of heartbreak, and that quote 'amendment" unquote, will be voted away again in the next election year, I promise you. And there will be appeals against it. 52% is in no way a popular mandate.

JBJ will die soon, of cirrhosis of the liver probably. And one more turd will have been flushed away down the evolutionary toilet. Meanwhile he's elected to inflict himself on the world through this forum, through random chance.

Just put the little shithead on ignore, knowing that there is not one thing he can say that is kind, or intelligent, or of any interest to anyone.

ETA I have reported that post. Enough is enough.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

What happened to AZ? Just two years ago, a similar measure got rejected. Now it's passed? I had serious hopes that the victory of 2006 would be repeated. God (or Gods) help us all.

Apparently, homophobia is still a socially accepted prejudice. Even as America rejected racism, we still have work to do. Oddly enough, I think that many socially conservative, but fiscally liberal African-Americans and Hispanics crossed the aisle, so to speak, on this issue. Many of the same first time voters who put Obama over the top did the same for Prop 102. Politics never lacks sad irony.

 

[Guest]

ETA I have reported that post. Enough is enough.

I did the same and I edited my post to take out what I quoted. I am loving the ignore list... I filled it out in the last few minutes.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

SEVERUS

The peeps dont like queers. Its a simple concept to grasp.

 

[shereads]

I am loving the ignore list.

It's great, isn't it? You can see his name, so you know he's waving his arms and moving his mouth, but no sound comes out. Addicted to attention and unable to get a fix.

Poor friendless little man. Friendless silent little man.

[/threadjack]

 

[Selena_Kitt]

It's great, isn't it? You can see his name, so you know he's waving his arms and moving his mouth, but no sound comes out. Addicted to attention and unable to get a fix.

Poor friendless little man. Friendless silent little man.

[/threadjack]

I've never used the ignore function before. But I rather like it!

Now if people would quit quoting him...

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

OH! STOP IT!

Every time I post a thread you break your necks to read it.

 

[Belegon]

State Attorney Jerry Brown has said that the amendment is not retroactive and that those couples already married remain married.

This is important. It will help fuel our fight based on the Fourteenth Amendment.

 

[Stella_Omega]

State Attorney Jerry Brown has said that the amendment is not retroactive and that those couples already married remain married.

This is important. It will help fuel our fight based on the Fourteenth Amendment.

yeah, I saw that-- I was afraid to look, I swear.

 

[sr71plt]

How many Jerry Browns do you have roaming around in California politics? Is this one related to the political dynasty?

 

[shereads]

I had hoped that at least Chambliss would get the boot. SOB managed to keep his seat. By all rights, this night should have been the end of his political career.

Agreed. I feel oily just from having occupied the same state as Saxby Chambliss, and it's only been three months for me. He oozes some slippery substance.

 

[shereads]

Al Franken is losing his Senate race by a margin tight enough margin to trigger an automatic recount.



Senator Franken? That would just be too delicious.

"Shut up! Shut up! SHUT UP!"

~ Bill O'Reilly

 

[OhMissScarlett]

Omg, Shimkus is back again. Looks like next time I need garlic and a wooden stake.

 

[sr71plt]

Ted Stevens is going to win his seat again in Alaska.