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[Aeroil]

Actually you just put into words a complaint me and K have always had. Commercials aren't the only ones that belittle men. Most television shows do too. Everybody loves Raymond, Simsons, Yes dear, King of Queens etc. Most popular shows have the man be discusting, stupid barbarian, and the woman is smart, sexy, sophisticated and totally in charge. I could probably spend as much time as you just did bitching, but I think that people don't want to listen to both of us go off on modern TV. Suffice to say, there are very good reasons I don't watch much TV.

That's definately the trend, but at least it's not throughout. Have you ever seen King of the Hill, The wife is an IDIOT, the husband is the smart one.

 

[graceanne]

That's definately the trend, but at least it's not throughout. Have you ever seen King of the Hill, The wife is an IDIOT, the husband is the smart one.

Uum, if you say so. I've watched a few, and he's a moron. Maybe I only saw a bad few. And there are a few that are ok. Friends, as stupid as it is, everyone's stupid, not just the guys. Um, Dharma and Greg. They take turns being morons. I'm sure their are others, but they don't come to mind. Oh, Seinfeld. Everone on that's stupid.

 

[Marquis]

Yeah, whatever happened to:

"Say goodnight Gracie."

"Goodnight Gracie."

 

[graceanne]

Yeah, whatever happened to:

"Say goodnight Gracie."

"Goodnight Gracie."

What?

And I'd love to say good night. If you can wave your magic wand and make my feet stop hurting, I will.

 

[DVS]

Yeah, whatever happened to:

"Say goodnight Gracie."

"Goodnight Gracie."

That show is OLD. In fact, behind the scenes of that show, Gracie Allen was a large part of the writing team. Long before any trends started. And, back then, the idea was fresh. If you want to go back that far, how about "I Love Lucy"? Lucial Ball was the female always getting into trouble. Arnez was bailing her out. But, like Allen, she was the writer, or should I say creator of the idea. Those shows were not the norm, then.

The thought process today is different. Watch some current commercials to see if you don't see it. And, I agree that there are a lot of series shows that do this, today, too. Male bashing...

 

[graceanne]

Ok, I know I'm showing my age, and the fact that I rarely watch tv, but . . .

I have always wondered where that phrase 'Say good night, Gracie' came from. I didn't know it was from a tv show! You learn something new everyday, I guess.

 

[Silverlily]

Make the women be the idiot, once in a while.

The commercial for the Hemi Durango makes the mom look like a simpering idiot babbling about the comfort and safety features until the dad steps in with motor being the part that matters.

But for the record, I agree with you about belittling men becoming the market trend. (I agree with the Durango dad as well, duh, it's a Hemi.)


And graceanne, "Say goodnight, Gracie" comes from the George Burns show. His wife's name was Gracie.

 

[Marquis]

The commercial for the Hemi Durango makes the mom look like a simpering idiot babbling about the comfort and safety features until the dad steps in with motor being the part that matters.

But for the record, I agree with you about belittling men becoming the market trend. (I agree with the Durango dad as well, duh, it's a Hemi.)


And graceanne, "Say goodnight, Gracie" comes from the George Burns show. His wife's name was Gracie.

I find it fascinating that you saw that ad that way.

I'm pretty sure that ad was made to make whoever was watching it feel more important, it's interesting that you saw it from the man's perspective.

 

[DVS]

And graceanne, "Say goodnight, Gracie" comes from the George Burns show. His wife's name was Gracie.

And a great show it was, too. Husband and wife working together as husband and wife. As with Lucy and Desi, who would have thought it would work out so well?

 

[DVS]

I find it fascinating that you saw that ad that way.

I'm pretty sure that ad was made to make whoever was watching it feel more important, it's interesting that you saw it from the man's perspective.

I don't remember seeing this ad. Maybe I don't feel important? But, I'd think it would be the fact that "it's a HEMI" draws the male perspective in. When you say hemi to a lot of gearheads, their eyes glaze over! I'll have to watch for it.

 

[Silverlily]

I find it fascinating that you saw that ad that way.

I'm pretty sure that ad was made to make whoever was watching it feel more important, it's interesting that you saw it from the man's perspective.

No babycakes, I saw it from a gearhead's point of view.

 

[Marquis]

I don't remember seeing this ad. Maybe I don't feel important?

LOL, DVS, your sense of humor always amuses me.

 

[Silverlily]

When you say hemi to a lot of gearheads, their eyes glaze over!

See?


Though 454 tends to do that far quicker.

 

[graceanne]

The commercial for the Hemi Durango makes the mom look like a simpering idiot babbling about the comfort and safety features until the dad steps in with motor being the part that matters.

But for the record, I agree with you about belittling men becoming the market trend. (I agree with the Durango dad as well, duh, it's a Hemi.)


And graceanne, "Say goodnight, Gracie" comes from the George Burns show. His wife's name was Gracie.

Um, ok. :blank look:

Actually the reason they had the woman simpering like and idiot was to point out that the Durango has more than a nice engine, that it has all sorts of family friendly things. I, personally, could care less about the engine - as long as the stupid thing works. I didn't even know what a Hemi was until that commercial came out. Frankly, it was ingenious for them to put a Hemi in a family car. Talk about pleasing the whole family.

 

[Wednesday'sRose]

Um, ok. :blank look:

Actually the reason they had the woman simpering like and idiot was to point out that the Durango has more than a nice engine, that it has all sorts of family friendly things. I, personally, could care less about the engine - as long as the stupid thing works. I didn't even know what a Hemi was until that commercial came out. Frankly, it was ingenious for them to put a Hemi in a family car. Talk about pleasing the whole family.

Yeah, I know the commercial and I always saw it as the difference between what which gender was supposed to be more concerned with in a car. Women are supposed to like the looks of the car and the creature comforts but care little to nothing about how it works. Men are supposed to only be interested in the Hemi, and since the kid is a boy, obviously the father wants his son to like the things that the guys are supposed to go for. I always found the commercial to be one that pointed to and enforced perceived gender lines in our society more than anything else. I don't see the commercial as particularly bashing anyone except for enforcing those thoughts. It simply puts forth a stereotype of genderized thoughts about cars and doesn't defer from it.

Of course, all of that could have come from the over-analyzing Anthropology major in me. That or the cynical influence of Sociology classes directed toward "uncovering the ills of American society."

 

[Marquis]

Yeah, I know the commercial and I always saw it as the difference between what which gender was supposed to be more concerned with in a car. Women are supposed to like the looks of the car and the creature comforts but care little to nothing about how it works. Men are supposed to only be interested in the Hemi, and since the kid is a boy, obviously the father wants his son to like the things that the guys are supposed to go for. I always found the commercial to be one that pointed to and enforced perceived gender lines in our society more than anything else. I don't see the commercial as particularly bashing anyone except for enforcing those thoughts. It simply puts forth a stereotype of genderized thoughts about cars and doesn't defer from it.

Of course, all of that could have come from the over-analyzing Anthropology major in me. That or the cynical influence of Sociology classes directed toward "uncovering the ills of American society."

That stuff is the truth man!

Marketing operates on the most primitive level of society. We wonder why stereotypes are perpetuated over and over when 90% of what people view is made for the least common denominator.

 

[Silverlily]

Um, ok. :blank look:

Actually the reason they had the woman simpering like and idiot was to point out that the Durango has more than a nice engine, that it has all sorts of family friendly things. I, personally, could care less about the engine - as long as the stupid thing works. I didn't even know what a Hemi was until that commercial came out. Frankly, it was ingenious for them to put a Hemi in a family car. Talk about pleasing the whole family.

Now see, to me, she did not look like her elevator went all the way up. In fact, I was offended that the manufacturer presented the idea that women only care if it's cute and comfy. I do care about the motor, it me it's the whole point. Safety is obviously important, but usually the modifcations I make exheed the OEM parts anyway.

 

[graceanne]

Now see, to me, she did not look like her elevator went all the way up. In fact, I was offended that the manufacturer presented the idea that women only care if it's cute and comfy. I do care about the motor, it me it's the whole point. Safety is obviously important, but usually the modifcations I make exheed the OEM parts anyway.

As a rule I dislike being told that because I'm a woman I should do things one way. But no amount of being contrary could get me interested in motors. Start talking things like that, and I go to sleep. The kind of safety things that interest me is how the car stands up in an accident and things like that. THe only time I pay attention to the motor is if the car isn't going.

 

[Silverlily]

As a rule I dislike being told that because I'm a woman I should do things one way. But no amount of being contrary could get me interested in motors. Start talking things like that, and I go to sleep. The kind of safety things that interest me is how the car stands up in an accident and things like that. THe only time I pay attention to the motor is if the car isn't going.

Fair enough. If we all liked the same thing, we'd never find our cars in the parking lot.

 

[graceanne]

Fair enough. If we all liked the same thing, we'd never find our cars in the parking lot.

Who says we can find out car in the parking lot anyway? I could get lost in a round room.

 

[Silverlily]

Who says we can find out car in the parking lot anyway? I could get lost in a round room.

*grin* The 22" wide black stripe running down the lenth of my car makes it hard to miss.

 

[graceanne]

*grin* The 22" wide black stripe running down the lenth of my car makes it hard to miss.

Ah! I tried to talk K into letting me paint our car some bright neon color, so that I could find it, but he wouldn't go for it. He's so close minded.

 

[DVS]

Now see, to me, she did not look like her elevator went all the way up. In fact, I was offended that the manufacturer presented the idea that women only care if it's cute and comfy. I do care about the motor, it me it's the whole point. Safety is obviously important, but usually the modifcations I make exheed the OEM parts anyway.

I bet you nearly climax when your copy of Car and Driver comes in the mail. I like a woman who is interested in power.

Maybe this commercial works on the basics of human nature. If you like motors, you like it from that point of view. If you like safety, or features, that's what you see in the commercial. Sounds like this commercial had some real social theory working in its favor, so it appealed to everybody.

Now, I'm waiting to see the thing, so I can see what interests me.

 

[DVS]

Ah! I tried to talk K into letting me paint our car some bright neon color, so that I could find it, but he wouldn't go for it. He's so close minded.

With all of the new electronic wireless gagets out, today, you'd think you could get you something like an inflatable valet that pops up, when you press a button on your remote. This guy inflates up on the top of your car and a loud speaker starts blaring out "Here I am...Yoo hoo...over hear, sweetie. Hey babe...over hear, doll face!" I think you'd find your car in a crowd, no problem.

Edited to add...and you don't need any neon paint. It all deflates back into a neat little package for the next parking adventure.

 

[Silverlily]

I bet you nearly climax when your copy of Car and Driver comes in the mail. I like a woman who is interested in power.

Thank you. *smile*

But Car and Driver sucks. Super Chevy on the other hand... I'm all about the bowtie.


Let's just say subs aren't the only thing I like modified.