Dogs, Dicks and Dominance

[Guest]

No, it's not what you think (perverts).

I'm talking about DICKS who have to have big fuck-off dogs simply for their image, so they look "tough".

Except, they fail to realise that if they let these dogs be dominant, they're making a shitload of trouble for themselves. Like when they don't keep their big fuck-off dog under control and it attacks one of my dogs.

DICK!

I showed the dog who was the dominant bitch around here, though. One yell of "Leave it!" from me (while it had my "pup" - Travis, a 7 mth old Border Collie pinned to the ground, whimpering), and it scurried back to its 18 year old, tough lad, DICK of an owner.

I gave the "tough lad" a few choice words about not being tough enough to hold onto his dog (he had it on lead, because it knew it had "aggressive tendancies", but it managed to pull free of him), and not being dominant enough to correctly handle such a dog.

My eldest dog (Billy, a 4 year old Border Collie) just stood next to me the whole time little Travvy was being attacked, but as soon as he realised the dog wasn't as tough as it made out (because it respected my "dominance" and legged it) he ran after it, barking. But my Billy's a good boy, and came back to me as soon as I called him.

Ignorant DICKS should not be allowed to have big, strong, fuck-off dogs! Or, if they do, they should learn how to be leader of the fucking pack!

Lou - mad at DICKS

P.S. Poor tough lad, he wouldn't stop apologising to me afterwards, and asked my advice on how to handle his dog better, lol.

 

[imalickin]

P.S. Poor tough lad, he wouldn't stop apologising to me afterwards, and asked my advice on how to handle his dog better, lol.

Smart lad.

 

[rgraham666]

I don't know what it's like in England, but over here they often have big, loud cars as well.

My thought is always, "Are we compensating for something?"

 

[lil_elvis]

Get shocky to show him (the DICK) a thing or three about obedience?

Just a suggestion.

 

[Guest]

 

[shereads]

Outside my window is a squirrel with balls the size of a nectarine. The neighbors' Rottweiller didn't have a package that big. How does the poor little rodent leap from branch to branch with all that ballast?*




*rhetorical

 

[Aurora Black]

We really need a dog smiley. Woof.

 

[Liar]

I'm talking about DICKS who have to have big fuck-off dogs simply for their image, so they look "tough".

One word: Compensation.

 

[Guest]

My Rico may not be big but he's tough. He likes to think he's part Dobey and Part Rott. At only seven pounds, it doesn't get him too far, but I know after he goes out and barks at the neighbor's german shephard, he comes back in with a testosterone filled strut.

Good for you, dogs (and teenage boys) need to know who the boss is.

 

[FallingToFly]

I don't know what it's like in England, but over here they often have big, loud cars as well.

My thought is always, "Are we compensating for something?"

Having known a few, dated a few when I was young and stupid, and had friends to compare notes with-

99 out of a hundred- oh yeah. Big time conpensation for a lack of talent- natural or learned- or equipment in the sack.

*skitters off before some frat boy sics a rottie on her*

 

[Boota]

Here in Indiana they are working on legislation to try to help control this issue. Last month a two year old girl was attacked by a loose pitbull and had both of her eyes bitten out. The legislation was already on the floor, but this incident has helped to push it along. I agree with the idea of very severe punishment for people who have animals they can't control. The guy who owns that pitbull, for example, should be blinded like the little girl he is reszponsible for blinding.

 

[Liar]

My cat beat the snot out of the neighbor's doberman in her youth.

 

[Aurora Black]

Here in Indiana they are working on legislation to try to help control this issue. Last month a two year old girl was attacked by a loose pitbull and had both of her eyes bitten out. The legislation was already on the floor, but this incident has helped to push it along. I agree with the idea of very severe punishment for people who have animals they can't control. The guy who owns that pitbull, for example, should be blinded like the little girl he is reszponsible for blinding.

Jesus Christ, that's horrible. It's amazing that such legislation always goes through after a tragedy like that takes place, but that could be the subject of another thread.

 

[Guest]

Smart lad.

Hehe, yeah, bless him.

I don't know what it's like in England, but over here they often have big, loud cars as well.

My thought is always, "Are we compensating for something?"

Exactly so! I couldn't give a shit if it makes them feel better, but when they are a danger to others (either in their cars they probably can't control, or with a dog they can't control) then it really pisses me off.

Get shocky to show him (the DICK) a thing or three about obedience?

Just a suggestion.

Haha, I think it was Shocky who rose up and gave him what for.

Is Travvy okay? Poor baby. *ear-scritches*

At the risk of stepping onto a soap box, this is one more complication of allowing pet shops to sell animals. Breeders are generally careful about potential owners, but pet shops will sell to anyone.

At least the tough lad had brains enough to ask an expert for some tips.

Yeah, Travvy is fine, thanks. The other dog (I think it was a Weimaraner/Dobie X) didn't actually bite him, but he had him pinned down - one sign of his teeth and I would have "pushed" it off with the long, thick plastic tennis ball launcher thingy I had in my hand at the time. Travis is a hardy thing, and quite out-going and confident, and he ran up to a Rottie afterwards (a breed I love - they are so soft and affectionate - who get a bad name, purely because they look strong and sometimes end up with owners who don't have much of a clue) so I don't think it's made him wary of other dogs.

Fortunately, pet shops are no longer allowed to sell puppies in this country. But, unfortunately, there are some unscrupulous breeders out there who put profit before responsibilty. Most are great, but there's always some bad'uns in everything.

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

Jesus Christ, that's horrible. It's amazing that such legislation always goes through after a tragedy like that takes place, but that could be the subject of another thread.

This will really make you sick: It's hard to get those bills passed, and they're always watered down.

Fucking dicks. Fucking sociopathic dicks.

 

[Guest]

Outside my window is a squirrel with balls the size of a nectarine. The neighbors' Rottweiller didn't have a package that big. How does the poor little rodent leap from branch to branch with all that ballast?*




*rhetorical

Haha! He sounds like the squirrel in that pic that's been floating around the 'net for a while.

We really need a dog smiley. Woof.

So true! There's plenty of cats.

One word: Compensation.

Indeed.

My Rico may not be big but he's tough. He likes to think he's part Dobey and Part Rott. At only seven pounds, it doesn't get him too far, but I know after he goes out and barks at the neighbor's german shephard, he comes back in with a testosterone filled strut.

Good for you, dogs (and teenage boys) need to know who the boss is.

Awww, I have a Rico in one of my classes. He's a Red Setter, and is as laid back and lazy as anything, but nuts at other times, but he's a real sweetie.

Damn right they need to know who is boss. And it's not difficult to get right... simple things like they sit and wait while you go out the door first... you eat before them, and they sit and wait by their bowl to have their food until you give them permission to eat it, and so many other simple little things. And that goes for teenage boys as well, lol.

 

[Guest]

Here in Indiana they are working on legislation to try to help control this issue. Last month a two year old girl was attacked by a loose pitbull and had both of her eyes bitten out. The legislation was already on the floor, but this incident has helped to push it along. I agree with the idea of very severe punishment for people who have animals they can't control. The guy who owns that pitbull, for example, should be blinded like the little girl he is reszponsible for blinding.

So sad that the legislation wasn't already in place, and effectively policed legislation at that.

We do have some very tough legislation in this country - The Dangerous Dogs Act, 1991 (link to it here). And a lot of people (that lad included) don't realise that with such an incident as today, I could have called the Dog Warden and had him prosecuted, with some unpleasant consequences - I informed him of this, btw. I told him that he's got to be careful, for his own sake and that of the dog, no matter any other person or dog. It's in his best interest to keep that dog under control in a public place, otherwise something worse could happen and the unfortunate dog could be destroyed faster than he could say, "sorry".

A few breeds of dog were banned, as a result of that legislation (including Pit Bulls), and another part of the legislation is that, "If a dog is dangerously out of control in a public place - then the owner or the person in charge of the dog is guilty of an offence."

 

[scottmcc]

I have an cocker spaniel who is shy. When she was a puppy I let her sleep on my shoulder and spoiled her rotten. When we walk to the bus-stop to pick up my little girl she hides behind me around other people.

Now she is huge and still wants to sleep on my shoulder, it is sad. She is such a good pup, but she is so hyper that we can't keep her inside at night. That and it is too hot inside the house for her.

 

[3113]

At the risk of stepping onto a soap box, this is one more complication of allowing pet shops to sell animals. Breeders are generally careful about potential owners, but pet shops will sell to anyone.

Well, the tough dogs are often bred by unscruplous breeders, at least in the U.S. Talk about compensation, someone gets their hands on one (non-nutered) and suddenly they're breeding it so they can sell the pups to everyone else in the neighborhood who wants a tough dog.

I mean, they're not trying to win awards or anything, just create mean dogs for guard duty, compensation or...alas, sometimes illegal dog fighting. Nasty stuff.

 

[minsue]

A few breeds of dog were banned, as a result of that legislation (including Pit Bulls), and another part of the legislation is that, "If a dog is dangerously out of control in a public place - then the owner or the person in charge of the dog is guilty of an offence."

I always find it so very sad when breeds of dogs are banned. It's not the breed, it's the owners. Pit bulls, as a breed, are wonderfully loyal and affectionate pets.

I must admit, I was in the camp of "pit bulls should be banned" before I was given a stray pit bull puppy. I was wrong. She was my baby for 6 years until cancer took her.

You're quite right about control, though. Anyone who isn't in control of their dog is raising their animal to be a danger to itself and others and should be bitch-slapped and have their dog removed from their 'care'.

 

[matriarch]

Outside my window is a squirrel with balls the size of a nectarine. The neighbors' Rottweiller didn't have a package that big. How does the poor little rodent leap from branch to branch with all that ballast?*




*rhetorical

*snorting with laughter*....thank god I wasn't drinking when I read this!

 

[matriarch]

Perhaps this could be the answer??

Dog Borstal

For the non-Brits:

Borstal/Approved Schools
Formerly used in Great Britain for delinquent boys aged 16 to 21. The idea originated (1895) with the Gladstone Committee as an attempt to reform young offenders. The first institution was established (1902) at Borstal Prison, Kent, England. Main elements in the borstal programs included education, regular work, character-formation, discipline,obedience and respect for authority. Acts of violence in borstal could result in a birching, which was the only official corporal-punishment allowed. However borstal governors openly used canes and heavy leather straps long after birching had been stopped, but there were very few official complaints from lads more concerned with getting out than having extra time added to their sentence by trying to complain to un-sypathetic authorities. The Criminal Justice Act 1982 abolished the borstal system.

 

[neonlyte]

Dogs!
I hate 'em!
Give me pussies every time.

 

[matriarch]

Dogs!
I hate 'em!
Give me pussies every time.

You naughty man, you.
But I couldn't agree more.....at least about the pussies.

 

[matriarch]

There was also a programme on Channel 4 that Min and I started watching, before we came back. Called 'It's me or the Dog'.

This
is the link to the programme.

It was unbelievable, the way some of these people treated...or didn't... treat their dogs.